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  • Kidlicious
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    No. That's a red herring. I said that you can't remove someone from office that they don't hold and now you act as if that's in question because some experts claim that you can. That's absurd.

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  • Ming
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    Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
    Do you actually think about what people write before responding? Your opinion is absurd.
    So... are you claiming that their are NO legal scholars that disagree, and think he can still be impeached after he leaves office?
    Because there are some that do... Easy enough to find with a google search. But then again, you are famous for simply posting headlines...

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  • BeBMan
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    Impeachment's so nice they did it twice.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Do you actually think about what people write before responding? Your opinion is absurd.

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  • Ming
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    Legal scholars have mixed opinions on this subject. And that's why they are called legal opinions...
    But as usual in Kid Land, anybody that disagrees with Kid's opinion is stupid, deranged, or whatever...

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  • Kidlicious
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    Anyone with any brains knows that you can't remove someone from office that they are in.

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  • Ming
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    Just a legal "opinion"... Other legal scholars have the opinion they still can. That's why they are called opinions...

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  • Kidlicious
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    Every kind of anti-Trumper is the dumbest people in the history of the world. Derangement.

    "Former Fourth Circuit Judge: Senate Can’t Hold Impeachment Trial After Trump Leaves Office

    by Matt PalumboPosted: January 13, 2021

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    Impeachment 2.0 is upon us, and the House of Representatives is expected to vote today to impeach President Donald Trump for a second time, with only days left in his presidency.

    But don’t expect a Senate trial anytime soon. House Majority Whip James Clyburn laid out a timeline for impeachment on Sunday – and said that Democrats may wait until after Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office to send any impeachment articles to the Senate. Biden proposed working with the Senate for his agenda in the mornings, while holding impeachment trials in the afternoon.

    Nancy Pelosi has already admitted the true reason Dems want impeachment: that they’re afraid of Trump running again.



    Never before has a senate trial for an impeached president been held after they left office, and J. Michael Luttig, a former judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, made the case that doing so would be unconstitutional. He penned an op-ed in the Washington Post last night to outline the case.

    To quote the key parts of his argument:
    The sequencing of the House impeachment proceedings before Trump’s departure from office and the inauguration of the new president, followed by a Senate impeachment trial, perhaps months later, raises the question of whether a former president can be impeached after he leaves office.

    The Constitution itself answers this question clearly: No, he cannot be. Once Trump’s term ends on Jan. 20, Congress loses its constitutional authority to continue impeachment proceedings against him — even if the House has already approved articles of impeachment.

    Therefore, if the House of Representatives were to impeach the president before he leaves office, the Senate could not thereafter convict the former president and disqualify him under the Constitution from future public office.

    The reason for this is found in the Constitution itself. Trump would no longer be incumbent in the Office of the President at the time of the delayed Senate proceeding and would no longer be subject to “impeachment conviction” by the Senate, under the Constitution’s Impeachment Clauses. Which is to say that the Senate’s only power under the Constitution is to convict — or not — an incumbent president.

    Luttig says that Article II Section 4 of the Constitution confirms the view that the purpose of impeachment is to remove from office a president before he can cause further harm. That article and section reads “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    Furthermore, Article I Section 3 reads “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

    As for Pelosi desiring impeachment to prevent Trump from running again, Luttig says “This is incorrect because it is a constitutional impeachment of a president that authorizes his constitutional disqualification. If a president has not been constitutionally impeached, then the Senate is without the constitutional power to disqualify him from future office.”

    Then again, when have Democrats let the Constitution get in their way before?"

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  • Broken_Erika
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    Capitol Staffer Says Office Panic Buttons Were 'Torn Out' Before Riot

    Sarah Groh, chief of staff for Ayanna Pressley, said all the office panic buttons had been removed ahead of a pro-Trump mob storming the Capitol.
    Sarah Groh, chief of staff for Ayanna Pressley, said all the office panic buttons had been removed ahead of a pro-Trump mob storming the Capitol.

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  • -Jrabbit
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    He threw his own VP under the bus after 4 years of loyal service.
    Why?
    For following the constitution and doing his job -- 2 things that Trump clearly cares nothing about.

  • Ming
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    Nahhh... but I do hope they impeach the next President who is stupid enough to try to illegally stay in office.
    And those people who followed his orders and believed his lies will pay the price for their actions, so it's only fair that Trump pays something as well.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Abuse of power. Will you impeach the next president you don't like for spitting in the street? You're ****ing lunatics.

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  • Uncle Sparky
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    ...spent the last 2 months whipping up "his people"...
    Trump has been inciting violence from Day 1 of his campaign.

    But at a rally with Sarah Palin [2016] in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Trump encouraged a few thousand supporters to beat up anyone who hurled a tomato at him, saying security had warned him that might happen.

    “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you?” Trump said, drawing cheers and laughter. “Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise. They won’t be so much, because the courts agree with us too — what’s going on in this country.”

  • -Jrabbit
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    He has spent the last 2 months whipping "his people" into a frenzy with blatant lies about election theft. He was promoting the 1/6 event back in mid-December. He clearly knew it was coming and promoted it. Dog-whistles to violence were all over his tweets: "Big protest in DC on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”

    Then look at what the people who were there said about why they were there. One after another declared they were there to fight for Trump, because Trump told them to be there.

    So no. Trump was impeached for his ongoing, very public attempt to overthrow our democracy, repeatedly encouraging his Astroturf coup, refusing to put a stop to it. He literally put the entire US Congress at risk of violence and watched the Capitol be invaded on TV while doing nothing to stop it. The fact that others were involved and that he was not the direct ringleader on 1/6 do not make his actions any less impeachable.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Since the FBI confirmed that riot was planned before the speech (which thinking people already knew), did he just get impeached for claiming that the election was stolen? You can't get more ridiculous that this. What a disaster.

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