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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    Proteus, please stop lying. Numerous states not in the EU have free trade agreements. It is only the current **** stains in the Europe Commission who claim it is impossible to have free trade without paying the protection money and making yourself a slave. The EU is a disgusting, corrupt, and anti-democratic organization and that is why I welcome no deal.
    Those free trade deals are not totally free.
    The non EU states have to adhere to EU rules in exchange for participating in the EU free trade zone.

    It also took some time of negotiations between those non EU states and the EU (about the specific conditions of tghe deals) in ordere to cement those deals.

    If the UK would be willing to have such a deal, they could negotiate one ...they could have started negotiating with the EU about conditions regarding participationg in the EFTA right after May invoked the exit clause. But obviously any such efforts are blocked by the Brexit-Hardliners in the British Parliament, which only want free trade, if the UK doesn't have to follow any rules in exchange for this

    It is like with the tarde deals between the UK and non EU states.

    The Brexit-Hardliners believed that all non EU states would just agree to copy their trade deals with the EU 1:1 to the after-Brexit-UK.
    Surprise ... this hadn't happened ... the UK alone hasn't the negotiation power that the EU has.

    As a result the UK is woefully underprepared for the after-Brexit time when it comes to trade ... and all of its trade relations will most probably fall under the WT default rules.
    Even the big buddy USA only want to give the UK a trade deal, if the Brits are willing to import chlorinated chicken and gene manipulated crops from the USA.

    The Brexiters have lived in their own alkternate reality, similar to Trump
    Last edited by Proteus_MST; March 19, 2019, 12:47.

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  • Dinner
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    Proteus, please stop lying. Numerous states not in the EU have free trade agreements. It is only the current **** stains in the Europe Commission who claim it is impossible to have free trade without paying the protection money and making yourself a slave. The EU is a disgusting, corrupt, and anti-democratic organization and that is why I welcome no deal.

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  • I AM MOBIUS
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    Who's pissed in your cornflakes, Oerdin?

    You were much nicer before, I mean mostly wrong, but you seemed a decent enough sort.

    Now you're just spewing hate and bile about stuff you clearly have no idea about - it's a bad look dude - you're coming across as a total 48" douch...

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    There is no meaningful question to resolve. That is nothing less then a lie and distraction brought up by the EU and deserves no consideration what so ever.
    So you are for a border (with customs controls) between northern ireland and the republic of ireland?

    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    If the EU actually cared, which I do not for even one second believe, then it can sign a true free teade ageeement with all of the UK without its usual crime misrepresentations. ...
    You don't get to pick the raisins out of the cake ... you can have the free trade agreement by staying in the EU
    (which would also mean that all the other benefits (like the EU subsidies for several UK towns) remain and your health system won't get hit hard (which will happen after Brexit when the masses of healthcare professional from the EU, which currently are in employment in british hospitals, decide to return to their home countries))

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  • Dinner
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    There is no meaningful question to resolve. That is nothing less then a lie and distraction brought up by the EU and deserves no consideration what so ever.

    If the EU actually cared, which I do not for even one second believe, then it can sign a true free teade ageeement with all of the UK without its usual crime misrepresentations. Juncker's ego won't allow such an intelligent and mutually beneficial agreement to occur so the best deal is no deal and walking away from that cancerous and fatally flawed organization.

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    You have two choices here: 1) Is the absolutely terrible poison pill which is the EU's dictated "agreement " which is designed to break up the UK ehile 2) Offers full independence with minor short term pain but medium to long term far greater upside.

    In short, only an absolute fool and coward would prefer 1 to 2.
    Well, so how would you solve the ireland question

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  • Dinner
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    You have two choices here: 1) Is the absolutely terrible poison pill which is the EU's dictated "agreement " which is designed to break up the UK ehile 2) Offers full independence with minor short term pain but medium to long term far greater upside.

    In short, only an absolute fool and coward would prefer 1 to 2.

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  • I AM MOBIUS
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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tain?CMP=fb_gu

    What is extra hilarious is that this was written yesterday - before The Speaker's intervention!

    Truly a Confederacy of Dinners!*


    (Oerdin, who exactly are you trying to troll? Your retardedness is beyond the imagining of even John Kennedy O'Toole)

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  • Dinner
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    No deal is coming up, thank god. May can’t keep trying to pass the horrible and rejected EU slavery agreement unless it is materially and substantively changed. So either the EU changes the bullshit it is shoveling or no deal.

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  • BeBro
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  • BeBro
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  • BeBro
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  • BeBro
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  • BeBro
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    Wow, serial post, dunno how that happened

    I'd just wanted to say John Bercow took over. Ten days to go and nobody knows how it will play out

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  • spambot
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    When Brexit featured on the news during a visit, she said, “They asked me how I voted, and I said I voted remain, and suddenly the atmosphere of the room completely changed.”

    “They didn’t understand my point of view at all,” Ms. Raaphorst said. “They said, ‘Why wouldn’t you want this country to be great again? Why wouldn’t you want us to start trading with other global powers? Why wouldn’t you want us to be Great Britain?’ And they started talking about empire. I was absolutely stunned.”

    “I wrote them a letter saying I was quite upset about what happened,” Ms. Raaphorst said. “They sent my son a letter saying that they just want to protect him from people coming in and out of the country that might hurt him.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/09/w...gtype=Homepage

    Wow, what a bunch of nutjobs

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