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  • #46
    http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data...onomies/brazil

    You will notice Brazil is 109th in east of doing business. If they can slash some red tape and get into, say, the top 50 that has got to help their economy. It would also help if they'd abandon the hard protectionist policies and start signing some free trade agreements though that would mean reforming Mercosur which may not be possible.

    Three decades after its founding, Latin America’s largest trade bloc continues to deal with internal divisions, including over a stalled trade deal with the European Union. New leadership in Argentina and Brazil could shake things up.


    You will notice that 98% of Mercosur is just Brazil and Argentina and things like the 35% common tariff on imports are just bad economic policy and one reason why their cost of doing business is so high.
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    • #47


      That is from 2014 but it is an excellent read. You will notice that each state in Brazil has it's own internal tariffs against other states within Brazil. So just moving goods from one state to another triggers special tariff like taxes. That is just nonsense. Also, a business located in one state cannot automatically do business in another Brazilian state. This is retarded to the extreme.

      They need to reform this stuff if they want to get their economy moving. Longer term it needs to fix its education, health care, and terrible infrastructure but they can fix their internal trade barriers in much less time.
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      • #48
        That's actually rather funny proteus. The Kaiserreich had some bad laws against the Catholic church, including a ban on homeschooling. Hopefully Germans will eventually be free of all Nazi-era laws again.
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        • #49
          It's fine to point out bad regulations that should be fixed/removed ... but the old "deregulate" mantra without specifics is more likely to be harmful than helpful.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            That's actually rather funny proteus. The Kaiserreich had some bad laws against the Catholic church, including a ban on homeschooling. Hopefully Germans will eventually be free of all Nazi-era laws again.
            You can homeschool your kids in germany as often as you wish ...
            but only in addition to the compulsory visit of your kids in a public school ... not as replacement

            And I am glad that it is this way,
            it prevents sectarianism where, fopr example, people tell their kids horror stories about members of another eligion or race and the kids have no chance to actually meet a member of said other religion or race (which would happen in a public school)
            And if I look at the harm done with the option of exclusive education via homeschooling in the USA (where it is harder for kids to break our of fundamentalist religious or extremist groups, if their parents keep them isolated from other groups) then I am really glad for the german system, It is for the best of society.

            (and a I said, if the parents aresome really gifted intellectuals who want to promote their kids abilities, then they still have anough time outide of school ... kids usually spend 4-6 hours a workday at school (i.e. 5 days a week), additionally sometimes 2-3 hours on a saturday. That leaves their parents with the afternoons at workdays and the whole days at the weekends in order to add their own teachings, or to indoctrinate them with their specific brand of religion)
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            • #51
              Well, if you don't see a child as being practically their parent's personal property then you're basically a Nazi.

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              • Proteus_MST
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                Obviously

              • Dinner
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                It gets really dangerous when the state gets between parents and children. The Nazis actually did that.

            • #52
              I thought the home schooling laws in Germany changed relatively recently. Mostly as a result of protestant objectors.
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              • #53
                Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                I thought the home schooling laws in Germany changed relatively recently. Mostly as a result of protestant objectors.
                Not to my knowledge.
                Skipping compulsory education in public or (sometimes) private schools AFAIK still only is allowed under rare circumstances
                (for example if the child is, due to long term diseases / genetic defects, unable to take part in normal classes)

                But of course there are people who want to get rid of those laws ...
                especially among members of religious sects who teach creationism or other unscientific nonsens and don't want their kids to come into contact with real science
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                • #54
                  Home schooling is illegal in Germany, but families who have moved to the US are not being allowed to claim asylum.


                  You are wrong. It was illegal in Germany until a few years ago and only changed due to protestant objectors. Even a piece of **** like Merkel figured out how horrible that made Germany look, mandating ideological indoctrination and interfering with the free exercise of religion.

                  Merkel has never been the worst but she has never been any where remotely close to the best either. Her gage orders restricting media outlets from reporting migrant crimes was an example of absolutely unforgivable government censorship of the free press. She truly should have simply been assassinated for such crimes. That was far to authoritarian to ever be acceptable be any free people.
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                  • #55
                    Uwe and Hanalore Romeike want to educate their seven children at home, rather than in the school system.

                    But in Germany where they come from originally, home schooling is illegal.
                    Umm it certainly looks to me like the article is saying home schooling is illegal in Germany.

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                    • #56
                      Good news and bad news: their bull**** appeal for asylum was rejected, but they still managed to stay in the US.

                      A German family that was threatened with deportation after losing an appeal for asylum in the US in order to home school their children has been granted permission to stay in the country indefinitely, a family attorney said.

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                      • #57
                        Originally posted by spambot View Post

                        Umm it certainly looks to me like the article is saying home schooling is illegal in Germany.
                        He said it was not illegal.
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                        • #58
                          Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                          https://www.bbc.com/news/business-24804804

                          You are wrong. It was illegal in Germany until a few years ago and only changed due to protestant objectors. Even a piece of **** like Merkel figured out how horrible that made Germany look, mandating ideological indoctrination and interfering with the free exercise of religion.

                          Merkel has never been the worst but she has never been any where remotely close to the best either. Her gage orders restricting media outlets from reporting migrant crimes was an example of absolutely unforgivable government censorship of the free press. She truly should have simply been assassinated for such crimes. That was far to authoritarian to ever be acceptable be any free people.
                          Nope, Homeschooling isn't and wasn't illegal.
                          What is illegal is, to keep your kids from visiting the compulsory public (or private school)

                          You can teach your kids everything you like at home ... in addition to the things your kid learns in public/private school.
                          You are not allowed, however, to prevent the visit of your kid at a public/private school ... visiting public/private schools is mandatory.

                          To sum it up:
                          Homeschooling your kids in whatever task you like != illegal
                          Not taking care that your kid attends to a public/private school = illegal

                          Here is an article that explains it in more detail:
                          https://medium.com/@FreisinnigeZtg/h...y-40b96f82d51e

                          (and also details why mandatory attendance to school is in your kids and societry best interest)
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                          • #59
                            https://hslda.org/content/hs/interna...ny/default.asp

                            In fed 2016 it was legalized in Germany, as I said, because even authoritarian ****wits like Merkel understood how horrible it made them look to repress religious freedom.

                            Don't even get me started about her censorship of social media because she found it politically embarrassing to let people speak freely. She belongs in prison for her crimes against the people. She is absolutely untrustworthy and has proven she will abridge rights, censor the press, and take repress religious freedoms if she thinks she can get away with it.
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                            • #60
                              Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                              https://hslda.org/content/hs/interna...ny/default.asp

                              In fed 2016 it was legalized in Germany, as I said, because even authoritarian ****wits like Merkel understood how horrible it made them look to repress religious freedom.

                              Don't even get me started about her censorship of social media because she found it politically embarrassing to let people speak freely. She belongs in prison for her crimes against the people. She is absolutely untrustworthy and has proven she will abridge rights, censor the press, and take repress religious freedoms if she thinks she can get away with it.
                              Dinner, I click the link you posted and I see the following:

                              Compulsory attendance: 6-18 (inclusive; in some states, the age has changed from 6 to 5)

                              Legal status of homeschooling: Homeschooling is not permitted.


                              Number of Homeschoolers: There are about 400 home school families. Almost all are operating underground or are in court.
                              Where on that website does it state that homeschooling (as in, exclusively educating your child at home and not sending them to any school, as is the commonly understood meaning of the term in English) was ever legalized in Germany?

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