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    New wait-list fraud alleged in Illinois VA

    That would put the list to seven facilities now where whistleblowers and/or media probes have discovered allegations and evidence of wait-list fraud at VA facilities. This CBS News investigation into the Hines, Illinois facility adds a new twist — performance bonuses. Germaine Clarno alleges that this facility had multiple, fraudulent wait lists intended to make the facility’s performance look better, and also intended to qualify its leaders for extra cash from the VA:
    Germaine Clarno is a VA social worker and employee representative in Chicago. She alleges there are multiple secret waiting lists of veterans kept at the Hines VA Medical Center.

    Asked which divisions of the hospital kept the secret waiting lists, Clarno says, “Employees are coming to me from all over the hospital, from outpatient, inpatient, surgery, radiology.”

    Clarno says veterans were put on secret waiting lists when they called for appointments, but they wouldn’t formally get an appointment booked in the computer until one came up within the VA’s goal of 14 days. The purpose of the lists, she says, was to hide how often veterans were not being seen on time.

    Clarno says the purpose of the lists was “to make numbers look better for their own recognition and for bonuses.”

    The VA grants bonuses to executives and doctors, partly based on short wait times. Whistleblowers — including Dr. Sam Foote, who revealed the scandal in Phoenix, where up to 40 veterans may have died — believe bonuses give an incentive to conceal delays in care.
    Just how long has the VA known about the problem of wait-list fraud? Well over a year, NBC reported yesterday:
    The VA is auditing all of its medical facilities after whistleblowers claimed employees were manipulating patient schedules to hide long wait times which may have contributed to patient deaths.

    “I think every American should be outraged about how our veterans are being treated American Legion National Commander, Daniel Dellinger.

    An internal memo from March 2013 obtained by NBC shows top VA officials learned of the problem well before the current allegations, and had been quietly trying to fix it. …

    “The question to the Secretary is, did he know? And if not – if he did not know what was in a GAO report or Inspector General’s report, why not?” asked Senator Jerry Moran, (R) Kansas.
    They have known about the problem for 15 months — and only now are getting around to doing audits? Sounds like a typical VA wait time, eh?

    Shinseki is scheduled to appear tomorrow at a Congressional hearing that looks more and more like a distinctly unpleasant experience for all involved. Whether or not he knew, Shinseki’s team apparently did, and Shinseki is responsible for their work. Shinseki needs to go, as part of a larger housecleaning at the Department of Veterans Affairs.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/1...n-illinois-va/

    The conduct alleged thus far is definitely immoral if not bordering on criminal. Is it time for Sec. Shinseki to go or can he actually be trusted to do a broad housecleaning of the department to ensure that this never happens again?
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    At the VA in Oregon I had to wait 2 months to be seen when I first registered and then after that it took maybe 3 weeks after I called to get in. Excellent service really. I joined the army to hold back communism, not to get cheap medical care for the rest of my life so when I got anything at all I was happy. Meds that cost $21 cost me $8, it was all good.
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    • #3
      Lancer: At least 40 people so far are alleged to have died due to the conduct of the VA.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        Hines VA has had a terrible reputation for as long as I can remember. Long waits, poor care, complete lack of give-a-damn.
        So a little wait-list fraud does not surprise me.
        Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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        • #5
          where dafuq is Hines, IL anyways?
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #6
            It's an obscure near-SW Side suburb. The VA is a little south of the Eisenhower Expy along 1st Ave. If you drove there, you're think you were in Forest Park or Maywood.
            Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
            RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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            • #7
              south side?

              That means OBAMA
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Adding this to my list of reasons we shouldn't have public healthcare.

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                • #9
                  Yes. The private industry is much more efficient at fraud.

                  Instead of people perpetrating it upon them, they do it to us!
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                    Adding this to my list of reasons we shouldn't have public healthcare.
                    You have another list of dead people for private healthcare, too, right?
                    Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                    "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                    • #11
                      But those deserved it for not working hard enough. Or choosing another, non-fraudulent option.
                      Indifference is Bliss

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                      • #12
                        I didn't read the op, what is DD pretending to care about now?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                          I didn't read the op, what is DD pretending to care about now?
                          Governmental incompetence/malice (I haven't seen enough info to decide which) killing people.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                            Governmental incompetence/malice (I haven't seen enough info to decide which) killing people.
                            Does this by any chance lead to you wanting someone in the administration fired?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                              Does this by any chance lead to you wanting someone in the administration fired?
                              Depends. Do you think Sec. Shinseki can actually be trusted to do a broad housecleaning of the department given the fact how systemic this issue is with the VA and the leadership knew about it for well over a year before we in the public heard about it?

                              Firing the VA Head would be good for the president. I don't understand your suspicion here.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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