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Republicans really do hate gay people

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  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    There were plenty of cultures that tolerated or even encouraged sodomy.
    Sodomites for example.
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    • I was thinking of the Greeks, but that works too.

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      • Are gay people who are born or naturalized in the United States, citizens of the United States?
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • MrFun, I think you may just not be intellectually equipped for this discussion.

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          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
            MrFun, I think you may just not be intellectually equipped for this discussion.
            This happens to him a lot.

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            • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
              Yes, it would be like that, but not precisely the same! The difference is that interracial marriage really is marriage, and under reasonable understandings of the term gay marriage really isn't marriage. It's a thing analogous to marriage but with an important difference.

              Marriage is marriage, period - to hang onto the definition of marriage as being exclusively between a man and a woman makes no sense,


              Yes, but only because it's a good idea to extend the meaning of marriage to cover lifelong monogamous relationships between same-sex partners, as it costs us nothing and makes them happy.

              as even before gay marriage had been legalized in some states, gay people have ALREADY GOTTEN MARRIED symbolically


              i.e. even they admitted that their marriage was metaphorical.



              When you have sex with your boyfriend, do you call it vaginal intercourse? Why not? How is it different just because you're giving it to some guy up the ass?

              Words have meanings! You think we should change the meaning. Fine! I agree with you! But the anti-gay marriage people are on solid ground when they say that this is a new meaning.
              Exactly. On all points.

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              • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                Are gay people who are born or naturalized in the United States, citizens of the United States?
                No.
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                • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                  There were plenty of cultures that tolerated or even encouraged sodomy.
                  And none of them ever had same-sex marriage, ever...?
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                  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                    MrFun, I think you may just not be intellectually equipped for this discussion.
                    QFT
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                    • It has been a long, long time since undergrad, but I seem to remember that some First Nations tribes, in so far that they had "marriage" at all, recognized it between same sex partners. I want to say the Cheyenne tribe was one of these, but--again--it is been many years since undergrad.
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                      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        And none of them ever had same-sex marriage, ever...?
                        To my knowledge, no. I think the burden is on you to show otherwise.

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                        • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                          It has been a long, long time since undergrad, but I seem to remember that some First Nations tribes, in so far that they had "marriage" at all, recognized it between same sex partners. I want to say the Cheyenne tribe was one of these, but--again--it is been many years since undergrad.
                          Native Americans are from a completely separate cultural heritage - they lost contact with our own ancestors before recorded history. You even give a nod to that with the scare quotes around "marriage".

                          That said, kudos to the Native Americans

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                          • Taking social cues from barbaric and backwards cultures

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                            • Why not, Europe has been taking cues from America for decades.

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                              • Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
                                Taking social cues from barbaric and backwards cultures
                                Obama is doing just that wrt Europe.
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