I'm honestly surprised the Chinese got off so cheaply with the Beijing Olympics considering how much work was needed to modernize the city. I guess cheap labor really helps to keep construction costs down.
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Perhaps it isn't economical but I question whether you can have the same deal for less money. I believe the compensation for architects like Hadid typically run at about 20% of total costs.Originally posted by DanS
For Emirates, I can see it. But not an aquatics center. They are building a $600 million white elephant.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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Out of curiosity, has any Olympic city ever made money on these cost layouts?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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how does one measure such a thing?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Out of curiosity, has any Olympic city ever made money on these cost layouts?Co-Founder, Apolyton Civilization Site
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LA didn't build much for the 1984 Olympics so maybe they turned a profit.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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I don't know why people keep trying to make it all economical when the holding the Olympics is fundamentally about prestige.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Out of curiosity, has any Olympic city ever made money on these cost layouts?DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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"showing off" was more accurateOriginally posted by Colon™
I don't know why people keep trying to make it all economical when the holding the Olympics is fundamentally about prestige.
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So true. Montreal just finished paying for the 76 games.Originally posted by Kontiki
They need to come to Montreal and Toronto. We can teach them how to build white elephant stadiums but good.
Cost overruns are nothing surprising and in fact, should be expected. The games are always sold to the locals with the promise of a low price tag and big revenue then years later, when it's too late to turn back, the real bills start coming in."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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Cost overruns are nothing surprising and in fact, should be expected.
Counter-point: Calgary '88
Turned a tidy profit, built long-lasting infrastructure the city benefits from to this day."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Winter Olympics aren't real Olympics.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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£9.35bn seems to be kinda expensive for a collection of white elephants though.Originally posted by Colon™
I don't know why people keep trying to make it all economical when the holding the Olympics is fundamentally about prestige.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Yes, building bobsled tracks, ski jumps, many ice rinks, etc is very cheap...Originally posted by Colon™
Winter Olympics aren't real Olympics."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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LA made $200 million. Atlanta also is said to have made money as well, although I do wonder...I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Bottom line is that the Olympics have to be supported some way. The central government will lead and pay for Beijing for a specific political purpose. Los Angeles was led by the city fathers and was profitable. Athens was led and paid for by the central government and was mainly about prestige and tradition, as far as I can tell (maybe a side benefit being an upgrade in infrastructure).Originally posted by Colon™
I don't know why people keep trying to make it all economical when the holding the Olympics is fundamentally about prestige.
It appears that the central government is leading and funding London in order to revitalize parts of the city. In this respect, the cost and frequency of use for big crowds in the future is a paramount consideration and white elephants are the exact opposite of what is intended.Last edited by DanS; May 2, 2008, 12:42.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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