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Originally posted by Heraclitus
Eugenics
Eugenics
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Exactly, we should also sterilize other genetic misfits and prevent people who are close friends with girls from abusing their emotional ties to coerce them into a sexual relationship.Originally posted by snoopy369
I think the major problem is that you have a very significant (far beyond that in normal relationships) of emotional abuse, or more specifically an older brother misusing his sister's emotional tie to him to emotionally coerce her into sexual relations with him. Add that to the fact that it is VERY risky genetically (and if it became common, it would indeed be very, very bad for the global gene pool) - but not just for the global pool, but also for their children, who have a much higher risk of genetic defect themselves - and I see no reason to permit it.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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I’d vote for that.Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
More like EU-genics.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
More like EU-genics.
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AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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I’m so happy, finally a simple +1 generator thread. Usually people on poly have more intellectual integrity or at least don’t contradict themselves so much. But cultural taboos prevent them from admitting there is nothing wrong with ****ing your sister (if she is a consenting adult) on the one hand, but the Nazi taboo prevents them from accepting the logical outcome of this that other genetic misfits should be face jail time for having children, as well.
I can just keep pointing out the inconsisntency over and over and over. And no one will budge, since they don’t want to be seen as the guy who would **** his sitster.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Your family is an unusual case. Most families do not have that kind of genetic problem. So while in certain individual cases, the probably of genetic defects increases dramatically, for society as a whole, the probably increases only a very small amount.Originally posted by snoopy369
There are a nontrivial number of genetic traits for which people often have a single recessive but not a second (or have 2 out of 4, etc.), where it is very likely for two siblings to end up with a child with 2/2 or 4/4. For example, I'm a carrier (2/4, probably) of alpha thalassemia, and if I were to procreate with my sister it's not unlikely that a child could be born 3/4 (very bad) or 4/4 (miscarriage).
The proof is in the pudding. Most children of incest do not show signs of defects.
Your better argument is power relationships and abuse of emotions. However, it wouldn't apply in this particular case, as they met when they were adults. Apparently, there is a very strong sexual attraction between family members that only first meet as adults. It is not all that rare for close family members who meet for the first time as adults to have incestuous relationships.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Originally posted by Elok
He should receive a life sentence for sixteen counts of aggravated ickiness.
As should the “animal lovers” and homosexuals.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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I don't think it's just taboo. I think it's mental illness.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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As is zoophile and homosexuality.Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't think it's just taboo. I think it's mental illness.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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DPLast edited by Heraclitus; March 13, 2008, 11:13.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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ZoophileOriginally posted by Heraclitus
As is zoophile and homosexuality.
I don't know. Does that actually exist?
Homosexuality, no. Mental illness usually means that potentially you can get better or that you wouldn't be that way without a cause.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
This is untrue. Children are more likely to have recessive traits expressed, which may include health defects, but they are not likely to have them. It takes generations of inbreeding for such traits to express themselves regularly. The Habsburgs didn't go to pot all at once. Frankly, improper nourishment during pregnancy is far more likely to result in birth defects than incest, and we don't require women to take folic acid supplements, etc.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Your family is an unusual case. Most families do not have that kind of genetic problem. So while in certain individual cases, the probably of genetic defects increases dramatically, for society as a whole, the probably increases only a very small amount.
The proof is in the pudding. Most children of incest do not show signs of defects.
Your better argument is power relationships and abuse of emotions. However, it wouldn't apply in this particular case, as they met when they were adults. Apparently, there is a very strong sexual attraction between family members that only first meet as adults. It is not all that rare for close family members who meet for the first time as adults to have incestuous relationships.
Voice of reason.
But, Chez you don’t honestly expect people burdened by their subconscious desires and unresolved conflicts to listen to science in this case? It would make them feel too insecure. Its much easier to be hypocritically selectively tolerant to evolutionary suboptimal sexual instincts.
Except for the people who belive in eugenic laws and consider homosexualty a disease. They are the only consisten people in this thred.
oh, and the people who think it is a sin. But they are siliy for other reasons...Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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This is true, but this does not mean they don't have them. Such defects can be hidden for generations and then strike pretty much out of the blue.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The proof is in the pudding. Most children of incest do not show signs of defects.
This is, however, not a reason to outlaw incest. As long as exclusively consenting adults are involved, it's not the state's business with who one sleeps.
By the way, what the article does not mention (but others do) is, that the girl was slightly retarded (not completely insane, though). This might be a reason for the harsh sentence.Comment
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you wouldn't be given the chance.Originally posted by Heraclitus
I’d vote for that.
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Re: Kiss me sister!
His sister, Susan K., who is now in her early 20s, was placed under the supervision of social services.
What does this mean? Is she not competent?Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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