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  • #76
    ...and the reason why we won't have any Polymeets in Denmark!
    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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    • #77
      "yes, we can meet at the dogs'r'us, they serve excellent coffee and little eatables."

      Sure...
      In da butt.
      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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      • #78
        My friend had this problem (minus the love-child).

        I refrained from giving him advice. He didn't want my advice and I thought it would just create permanent bad feelings if I called described his girlfriend in negative terms. I'm sure he knew what my thoughts were on the situation, even if unvoiced. We didn't talk to each other much while he was under her thumb.

        Several years later he was free of the yoke, and we got back in touch. He's in a much better relationship now (married to a great gal and has one child), and our friendship is positive.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #79
          DanS,
          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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          • #80
            Resisting the temptation to give unwanted advice is very difficult.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #81
              And when it's absolutely clear you're right and you actually have the best interest for the person... and you could make their life so much better by just making them obey you... and you know they know it as well but still they keep denying it because they're weak... it sucks. But you have to stay strong. You can help by being there and letting everyone know you'll be there.
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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              • #82
                No, I had no interest in being there to support his stupidity. Got better stuff to do. As I said, we fell out of touch.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #83
                  OK. Well I guess you like pounding sand. Sounds kinky, but what ever rocks your boat is fine.
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                  THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                  "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    Resisting the temptation to give unwanted advice is very difficult.
                    Just to make it perfectly clear, HK has been soliciting our opinion each time.

                    That's what makes it worse.

                    It's like he has to check off a box on a checklist that reads "Ask all my friends for their advice... so I can ignore it."

                    Either way, I've made the break. I don't much care if I've offended him with my opinion of his girlfriend. He has offended all the rest of us by asking for our opinions time and time again and then essentially treating us like we're not worth listening to.
                    "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                    • #85
                      In a year or two he'll figure out what a mistake he's made and then he'll leave her.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #86
                        Hopefully he won't be a in a foreign country of which he doesn't speak the language, and doesn't have a right to reside in at the time.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia


                          Just to make it perfectly clear, HK has been soliciting our opinion each time.

                          That's what makes it worse.

                          It's like he has to check off a box on a checklist that reads "Ask all my friends for their advice... so I can ignore it."

                          Either way, I've made the break. I don't much care if I've offended him with my opinion of his girlfriend. He has offended all the rest of us by asking for our opinions time and time again and then essentially treating us like we're not worth listening to.
                          Well, I translate that to mean that he's asking for your advice, but doesn't really want it. Giving advice to guys is a tricky business.

                          In any event, I don't advocate "being a steadfast friend" by putting up with all this bull****, of course. He'll eventually come to his senses. Or maybe he won't. His choice.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #88
                            Denmark appears to have an unusual fixation on dogs.

                            Or possibly on dongs.

                            Or even dog dongs.

                            ...

                            I'm just saying...
                            "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                            • #89
                              Yeah but when in situation like that, he isn't necessarily asking your advice. He might actually know it, he should know it already. He might be just seeing what your position is, which is a different thing. Or perhaps he was looking for support. Or perhaps he is mustering those sacks and wanted confirmation, or whatever. Why do you think people want what they ask? They usually want something, but it might be completely different.

                              I'm usually alwyas interested in something else than the actual answer, I usually already know the outcome of it anyway, so it's not interesting to me. Jeesh people, learn to communicate!

                              You know because what he says and does might be two different things? Again, many possibilities why this is, it's not so binary world when it comes to human behavior.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                              • #90
                                ...which is another reason why the friendship isn't working out, in addition to his poor judgment.

                                Either way, it's academic. I think DanS is right. Even if we could "teach" him how bad his situation really is, we'd still have to "rescue" him from it. And given how spineless he is and how easily misled he is, there's no guarantee that the thing we gain at the end of it is still a worthwhile human being.

                                For now he no longer qualifies as a friend. Perhaps later when he decides to rejoin the vertebrate phylum we can see how things stand.
                                "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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