British Agressor blames black youth

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

He's also partly responsible for the rates in later years as well. They keep adding onto his score, usually with killings that happened 10-20 years earlier.

Funnily enough, I don't see any politicians claiming it's a white, middle-aged beardy doctor problem.

[Lazerus]

Yeah there's only 1 black guy killing all the others so this stereotyping is wrong.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

If you buy the statistics, it's a statement of fact that suddenly the "average murderer" got a lot whiter. What it also highlights is that it's a damned sight easier to get away with murder if you don't resemble the stereotypical killer.

There is, as of now, a problem with a few gangs of dumb kids who are predominantly black. That's a problem to be addressed. What the situation really doesn't need is ****** with racial agendas pouncing on it to go "Aha! Blacks are the problem!" just like the BNP is currently doing.

[Lazerus]

If you buy into statistics the usual "numbers can be made to say anything" rule comes in, it takes abit of common sense. Well yeah that's obvious that it's easier to get away with things when you're not in the stereotype but why waste the majority of resources to stop the minority ? Again Shipman was a one off that will unlikely ever be repeated.

Nobody has said that blacks overall are the problem, as you've said the issue is aimed at stopping the mainly young black male gang culture. BNP are villified more then any other organisation ever could be so i see little reason to go soft on issues of race where there is clear indication of a culture fault just because of the fear they'll get an extra 20 supporters to their credit. Doing nothing would probably help them more as with asylum tensions when the govt is perceived as doing nothing the average person starts to become irritated.

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
What the situation really doesn't need is ****** with racial agendas pouncing on it to go "Aha! Blacks are the problem!" just like the BNP is currently doing.

Is Tony Blair one such six-star? (In this situation, not in general )

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Lazerus
If you buy into statistics the usual "numbers can be made to say anything" rule comes in, it takes abit of common sense. Well yeah that's obvious that it's easier to get away with things when you're not in the stereotype but why waste the majority of resources to stop the minority ? Again Shipman was a one off that will unlikely ever be repeated.

Black murderers are in the minority of murderers. Unless they somehow manage to have a kill rate 50 times greater than the rest of the population.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Lazerus
Again Shipman was a one off that will unlikely ever be repeated.

No he wasn't. Look up Dr Bodkin Adams. Christ knows how many he really killed. Then there was that nurse with Munchausen's by proxy from a decade or so back (her name escapes me).

The brutal fact is that we don't know if there are other Shipmans at large, because their killings aren't recorded as homicides.

Nobody has said that blacks overall are the problem, as you've said the issue is aimed at stopping the mainly young black male gang culture.

Gang culture is, and always has been a problem. Attaching racial agendas to the isue doesn't help.

For example, what about the football hooligan issues from the 70's and 80's. A lot of killings there, and the killers were overwhelmingly white. However the issue was not (and should not) be portrayed as a "white culture" problem, because the racial issue is irrelevant.

BNP are villified more then any other organisation ever could be

I think you'll find they lag a long way behind the Gestapo, the Khmer Rouge and the Ton Ton Macoute.

so i see little reason to go soft on issues of race where there is clear indication of a culture fault

As demonstrated above, I'm not pepared to accept that this is a "black culture" problem, when the overwhelming majority of "black culture" condemns the killings. To do so just muddies the issue.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Not because one of the suspects in the failed London bomb plot is meant to have disguised himself in a burqa then ?

It should go without saying that the disguises in public thing is a bad idea, and that anyone in a disguise should be searched and have extra scrutiny put on them.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Let's start with mime artists and Ronald ****ing McDonald.

[Whoha]

Are there any McDonalds that still pay a guy to stand outside in that suit anymore? I haven't seen that in a long while.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
No he wasn't. Look up Dr Bodkin Adams. Christ knows how many he really killed. Then there was that nurse with Munchausen's by proxy from a decade or so back (her name escapes me).

Beverly Allitt?

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by Whoha
Are there any McDonalds that still pay a guy to stand outside in that suit anymore? I haven't seen that in a long while.

Well Hamleys have stopped having one of their staff dress as Ali G, so if they can get rid of such an ancient costume, then I'm sure McDonalds will have too.

[C0ckney]

talking about harold shipman et al in a thread about inner city gangs and the culture surrounding them, is completely missing the point.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp



Way off. In a population of 60 million, 40 homicides per year would probably make Britain the nation with the lowest homicide rates by a huge margin.



As ever, crime stats should be approached with caution. However, the ones given greatest credibility suggest a fall over recent years. This is the survey generally considered the most significant-

http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/page63.asp

Oh well. The survey records fewer than 20 gang related killings/year. I couldn't find any statistics on race of victims or perps. Of note homicide by stabbing is much more common than homicide by firearms in the UK.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by C0ckney
talking about harold shipman et al in a thread about inner city gangs and the culture surrounding them, is completely missing the point.

Your opinion is noted and duly dismissed.