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  • #16
    Btw, for all the faux outrage over steroids by Congress and the "fans", attendance this year is looking pretty healthy.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Btw, for all the faux outrage over steroids by Congress and the "fans", attendance this year is looking pretty healthy.
      not too difficult when Montreal is swapped with DC, even if the nationals are mediocre.

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      • #18
        The entire national league is mediocre.
        "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
        ^ The Poly equivalent of:
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        • #19
          The entire American League is more mediocre (if we remember Guy's thread about the AL).
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #20
            Yeah, the AL isn't anything to write home about. Both leagues seem pretty similar in 2-3 good to great teams, a whole lot of mediocre ones, and 1-2 god awful teams (with the AL having more of the awful ones).

            the abomination that is the NL West is something to behold, however.

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            • #21
              from cnn.com

              While he didn't deny testing positive for the drugs, he insisted that ingesting them was an accident.

              "When I testified in front of Congress, I know that I was testifying under oath and I told the truth," he said during a telephone conference call Monday. "Today I am telling the truth again that I did not do this intentionally or knowingly."


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              • #22
                Who?
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by asleepathewheel


                  Why? One would think that Viagra would court the roidheads. Maybe not too openly though.

                  I am using steroids for 20 years, and I can still get it up. Thanks, Viagra!
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #24
                    Wimpy US sports administrators.

                    Wouldn't it be nice for a sportsman to just once say yes I was using perfomance enhancing drugs and I've been caught.

                    This took it inadvertently rubbish is getting beyond a joke
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                    • #25
                      RUmor has it that the failed test was in April - 1 month after the Congressional testimony. If you read between the lines it is pretty clear that he is blaming some nutritional supplement that his trainer gave him that had steroids or steroid precursors in it that they didn't know about. This is just ridiculous. Steroid precursors just don't happen by accident. They are very carefully crafted and put intentionally into these supplements. That is the whole point behind buying and using supplements. As BALCO has proved to everyone, the supplement business is extermely sophisticated and they know exactly what they are doing.
                      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                      • #26
                        The funny thing is that Canseco is now defending him saying he doesn't believe RP is taking them now since it would be stupid. Canseco is saying it's some type of conspiracy by major league baseball to make a scapegoat out RP.

                        Hmmmm, it's getting hard to sort out all the stupidity.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #27
                          and the article....

                          Tribune news services
                          Published August 2, 2005


                          What a difference 4 1/2 months make. Rafael Palmeiro was seething when Jose Canseco named him in his book. Now, Palmeiro's former teammate is coming to his defense.

                          Appearing Monday on Sporting News Radio, Canseco said that Palmeiro is being used as a scapegoat by Major League Baseball and suggested the league did something untoward with Palmeiro's sample.

                          "I definitely do not believe that Rafael is using steroids right now. In the past, he has, but not right now," Canseco said. "Obviously, they are picking this time to fight this battle when there is some kind of testing policy involved, and now trying to take out Rafael Palmeiro for what he may have done in the past.

                          "I would do a major, major investigation on his urinalysis sample--if it was missing for any period of time--and I'd keep a strong eye on Major League Baseball and the players' association, especially on their leaders."

                          In his book Canseco claims that he introduced Palmeiro to steroids after being traded from the Athletics to the Rangers in 1992.

                          In his first five seasons full seasons in the major leagues (1988-92), Palmeiro averaged just under 16 home runs a season. After Canseco's alleged introduction of steroids to the player, Palmeiro had career highs in home runs (37) and runs batted in (105) in 1993.

                          "I think people are now realizing, or starting to realize, that every word, more or less, I said in the book is the absolute truth," Canseco said to the station. "Now, do I believe right now Rafael Palmeiro is dumb enough or gone crazy enough to use steroids? Absolutely not. There's no ifs or buts about it, especially when Congress is going to keep a very sharp eye on these athletes."
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #28
                            I heard on SportsCenter that he was blaming taking supplements from another player in the clubhouse. Now, we know there is somewhat of a family atmosphere in the clubhouse, and you don't want to piss off someone by refusing their supplements for fear of steroids. But, you wonder... is the teammate who is rumored none other than Sammy Sosa?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #29
                              Well, a lot of people thought Ryne Sandberg's speech was about Sosa.
                              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                              • #30
                                What did Sandberg say? And did we prove that Ryno wasn't on the juice either?

                                Btw, breaking news, Seattle Pitcher Ryan Franklin was found violating the steroids policy and is suspended for 10 days. The 2nd pitcher, IIRC, and it seems wierd that people are STILL looking past the pitchers' use of steroids.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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