mrmitchell's NES: Tough Times

[Micha]

Originally posted by bipolarbear
1: Stop all military action, to prevent complications from arising

Our military is mobilized to protect the country. No offensive actions will take place from our side.

2:The demands regarding the government or governing of the people of the countries involved will have to drop. It is those differences between countries that make them just that. The MFA will not support subtle imperialism like that.

This is acceptable.

3:Imperialism of all sorts will not be tolerated. France shall give back all of the German Territories, as long as Germany conforms to the following stement that they issued.
(...)

France shall name the price.

4: Luxemburg will be "liberated" and turned into a "free" state that is in no way under joint French German control.

Fine.

5: SHould both countries decide to do so, then France could keep the Alsace-Lorrainne under certain "pre-determined circumstances".

This would apply to the following statement:

Originally posted by mrmitchell
France to Germany (SECRET)
How's about this then:
Leave us alone on Alsace-Lorainne, and we will look the other way no matter what way you acquire territories that you want to your East.

We have hoped for a more active support of our Eastern policy then a simple "ignore". Like approval by France, political pressure on Poland and international justification given by France for the return of the old Prussian territories into Germany. That kind of support would open the door for a closer cooperatin between our countries... We´d like to hear your demands for this option.

While an "ignore" is still appreciated, it would have to be backed up by a permanent non-aggression pact and a more friendly representation of our country in French media to be worth dropping claims on Alsace-Lorraine...

Germany to Russia

Since the Soviet Union had expelled all German inhabitants from Kaliningrad and killed those who didn´t leave, it is forseeable that a plebiscite will result in a vast pro-Russian majority.
We thought of some kind of "friendly gesture" as a sign that history is burried and old debts are paid...
The friendly gesture on our side would be that we pay for it.

It´s just a town with a small harbour and some 50 km of land around it. It has no land connection to Russia and no natural ressources. The area has been German for almost 500 years and most of this time it held the royal palace of the Prussian kings.
After the second world war the Soviets obliterated the old town and rebuilt it with ugly socialist residental towers. It´s been one of the poorest areas of the Soviet Union and that situation hasn´t improved much till today.

We plan to rebuilt most of the old city, the castle and the royal palace as well as replacing the relicts of Soviet times by modern architecture with large parks and new industrial zones, especially "technology parks". A famous German automobile company has also agreed to invest into this area what would help the economic situation there.

All we ask for is to name your price.

[foolish_icarus]

Russia to Mexico :

Too much. Polls have indicated that our citizens don't approve of the idea of selling off citizens and territory.

[bipolarbear]

Mexico World News

The Mexican Space Program is going well by Mexican Standards. We have installed doors in the "moon colonies, but we're still having a problem creating an economically feasible environment in which a person wouldn't explode.
Mexico has legalized all "soft" drugs for its people. The drugs, like everything else, are being produced on a massive scale for the people to enjoy in a hazy stupifying pleasure.
Ireland has joined the Morgan Freeman Alliance. The Northern Ireland issue is still being worked out. Negotiations are off to a rocky start, but they are, like everything else, expected to improve.
The Greater Central American Co Prosperity Sphere has, in the glory of mother Mexico, expanded to include Beliz, and El Salvador. Long live the proseperity of Mexico!!!!
Mexican efforts to rebuild the economy have almost improved to the levels that they were previously at. Soon, we will have an economy that will provide us with the funds to be able to post our stats, but until then, we can only smoke signal in vain.

[bipolarbear]

Mexico to Russia

What's the price on some of your other lands?

[bipolarbear]

MFA Treaty News
Now that you have stated and critiqued eachother's demands, we will issue our formal, and unbiased opinion on what should take place.

1: Stop all military action, to prevent complications from arising

2:The demands regarding the government or governing of the people of the countries involved will have to drop. It is those differences between countries that make them just that. The MFA will not support subtle imperialism like that.

3:Imperialism of all sorts will not be tolerated. France shall give back all of the German Territories, as long as Germany conforms to the following stement that they issued.

Note that we will pay for it, with money, trade goods, treaties, free elections, alliances or new European Union talks; So it´s more a purchase than a hostile take-over.

4: Luxemburg will be "liberated" and turned into a "free" state that is in no way under joint French German control.

5: SHould both countries decide to do so, then France could keep the Alsace-Lorrainne under certain "pre-determined circumstances".

[mrmitchell]

France to Germany (SECRET)
How's about this then:
Leave us alone on Alsace-Lorainne, and we will look the other way no matter what way you acquire territories that you want to your East.

[Nubclear]

CHINA to GERMANY (Secret):
We can send spies to Kaliningrad to ensure a majority in your favour.

[foolish_icarus]

Russia to Germany :

Our analysts have estimated that the price necessary to compensate us for the loss of Kaliningrad would cripple you. Such sums cannot be easily given. However, if you feel confident you can pay the necessary amount, we will hold plebiscites in Kaliningrad. Of course you will not have to pay if there is not a majority in favor of joining you, but if we are to hold the plebiscite you must pay for the cost of it whether or not it comes out in your favor.

[Micha]

So what´s your opinion to the second proposal?

On the other hand, we would appreciate French support in our Eastern claims. If they helped us in getting back parts of Prussia and Silesia, we´d lay down all claims on France, sign any treaty they want us to and pay with any of the above mentioned things.

[mrmitchell]

We will not sell out our own country to Germany.

[Micha]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
* Germany drops its territorial demands against France
War will always be just one step away if Germany must continue irritating France.

No. Germany had been crippled to less than a shadow of it former self during the past hundred years. As long as half of the German territories are occupied by other nations there will never be an enduring peace.
The German people don´t hold any bad feelings against other peoples or cultures, but against those who stole their ancestor´s lands.
Why have other countries the right to claim their homelands but the Germans don´t?

We will settle the Franco-German conflict once and for all as soon as we get what belongs to us. Western Poland and Silesia are core territories of Germany, but because of our sad history we cannot openly demand them. So we need to compensate it with secondary claims, such as the French-occupied Alsace-Lorraine.

Note that we will pay for it, with money, trade goods, treaties, free elections, alliances or new European Union talks; So it´s more a purchase than a hostile take-over.

On the other hand, we would appreciate French support in our Eastern claims. If they helped us in getting back parts of Prussia and Silesia, we´d lay down all claims on France, sign any treaty they want us to and pay with any of the above mentioned things.

Germany to Russia

We want to start negotiations about a possible purchase of the Kaliningrad exclave from our friendly Russian neighbours.
It is the old Prussio-German capital Königsberg and thus it is of great value to our country. We understand you need the Baltic port there, and we would grant you military and naval bases in that area as well as favoured trade partner status.
Of course the Russian citizens would continue their lives untouched by the purchase, as the area would then be bilingual (Russian and German, just as the Lausitz area where German and Sorbish are of equal importance).
The price is up to you to decide, and we really hope you will consider this offer...

[mrmitchell]

Ok, if it's just demands. (King Mrmitchell orders anyone shot that knows of his mistake.)

French demands:
* Germany drops its territorial demands against France
War will always be just one step away if Germany must continue irritating France.

* Immediate reduction of German armed forces
We'll reduce ours too, promise. But such large armies can put our two fair nations on the edge.

* Elections in Germany
For peace to prevail, there must be freedom in all Europe.

[Micha]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
King Mrmitchell is outraged at Germany's "treaty". It is no more than a list of wild demands against the French people.

It´s not supposed to be a treaty. The NFA asked for a list of German demands. Now post your demands and then negotiations can begin.

[mrmitchell]

King Mrmitchell is outraged at Germany's "treaty". It is no more than a list of wild demands against the French people.

[Micha]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
CHINA to FRANCE:
Ha! We aren't giving you aid.
We'll give Germany aid though.

China Germany

Germany China, too