U-M Affirmative Action case heard before Supremes

[Guynemer]

So the big case went before the SC yesterday.

A friend of mine who is now in the Kennedy School at Harvard went to see the proceedings yesterday. He is, not to put too fine a point on it, a legal and political savant, and something of an expert when it comes to AA; he did his thesis on the Bakke case.

His take on what went down--he thinks that Michigan will win the case, 5-4, possibly even 6-3. He went in thinking that UM would probably lose, but after seeing and hearing the Justices question the lawyers, he's pretty sure that UM is going to win this thing.

He said the Justices seemed particularly rough on Solicitor General Ted Olson, who was arguing on behalf of the Bush Administration against UM's admissions policies.

Ruling probably won't be back until June or July... you ought to be able to find transcripts online.

[Inverse Icarus]

ugh. Affirmative Action

[DinoDoc]

We'll see. SCOTUS has made wierd rulings of late, so anything is possible.

[Zkribbler]

This is one issue where debates at Apolyton changed my mind.

I went into the debates pro-UM, but after hearing the arguments, I doubt that AA as practiced at UM can survive constitutional scrutiny. I'm surprised the see that the Supremes may be leaning the other way. It's rare that you find me sitting to their right. D*mned liberal Republican pinkos. ( )

I don't think the analysis presented as to educational AA can be stretched to workplace AA, but that debate has yet to be joined.

I'm looking forward to the SCOTUS's opinion this summer.

[Jac de Molay]

It's going to be real tight either way.

I think any policy that uses race as a factor is only going to breed that much more resentment. Proponents always point out that "until the day comes" where quality of education improves and institutional racism is non-existent, AA will be necessary.


But like Rehnquist said yesterday, ...."when does this come to an end?" I want to know too

[yavoon]

affirmative action is good racism.

and something about saying that makes me cringe.

[Zkribbler]

DetroitDave--what a great signature you have!

[DinoDoc]

Guy: This site maybe of interest to you.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Arse. I thought this was a Motown thread.

[Guynemer]

Here I was thinking it was a site about AA...

Got this week off, I ought to fire up some FF.

Oh, and Dino--I'm getting a new computer, which will (eventually) be hooked up to the net, so sometime in the relatively near future we may finally be able to face off.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by DetroitDave
But like Rehnquist said yesterday, ...."when does this come to an end?" I want to know too

Well, I don't think anyone can say when the racism and its results will ebb to an extent that AA becomes unnecessary.

However, I think it's fairly obvious that we're not there yet.

[H Tower]

which amendment is it that guarentees equal rights? the 14th? well, from my point of view AA treads upon the rights of those who aren't fortunate enough to be born into a minority.

Jesse JackAss gave a speech yesterday in front of the lincoln memorial, all the more reason to oppose AA.

[DaShi]

Oh, the Supreme court. That makes more sense.

[Imran Siddiqui]

His take on what went down--he thinks that Michigan will win the case, 5-4, possibly even 6-3. He went in thinking that UM would probably lose, but after seeing and hearing the Justices question the lawyers, he's pretty sure that UM is going to win this thing.

Even if Michigan wins, the REAL important part is what procedures the majority opinion will say is valid, and which would go too far.

[Timexwatch]

I didn't see the entire protest, but there were easily several hundred, if not thousand, protesting the case on Tuesday. The metro up to Capitol Hill was clogged.

The major org that I saw was something called "BAMN" or "By Any Means Necessary" which sounds a bit ominous IMHO. They were passing out protest signs like Halloween candy down by the court...