New Apple Computer Released Today

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher
That is so sad of you in so many ways, Agathon.

I take that as an obvious victory for myself, you've not only retreated to idiotic rhetoric, you've done it twice in a row and started with the "LOL" smilies.

Where's the rhetoric? Don't you understand the meaning of that word? That was a simple statement of fact.

Now go away...

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
:what Lawrence said:

Just shows you have no credibility on this issue. Enjoy your cheap, slow computer.

I just wanted to quote this to preserve the beautiful irony. =)

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Where's the rhetoric? Don't you understand the meaning of that word? That was a simple statement of fact.

Now go away...

I realize you're mad at me for crashing your party and bringing reality to your "Reality Distortion Field" that Macheads so often have, but there's no need to be stupid Agathon.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher
How many hours of real-world battery life do the new PowerBooks get? That's my #1 concern, and the 7 hours real-world the T40 gets per battery was what sold me.

Frankly, I don't give a **** because I'm not some hopeless loser who gets off by spending his life looking up technical minutiae, or who has to resort to insulting other posters' families when they don't get their own way.

[Asher]

Is it just me or are you in quicksand?

And I hardly think battery life in a laptop is "technical minutiae".

As for the "insult other posters' families" bit -- JohnT insulted me and my SO by saying that kids our age will "f*ck anything". There is a clear and obvious implication of low standards. I responded in kind by saying at least kids our age don't have saggy breasts (with a wink), and he started bawling.

Boohoo, you insult me and my SO and I'll do the same.

It's not my fault you and JohnT are both incapable of understanding the apparent complexities of the exchange, but the mods certainly did.

Now there is the possibility of JohnT not meaning what was directly implied, but then it's his stupidity that's the problem and not mine.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

IBM ThinkPad T40

A far better laptop in every department than the old and new PowerBooks, and it's been out since March 2003...

Smaller, lighter, faster, more feature-rich, far better warranty protection, way more durable.

Alrighty then. Lets have a look at the features on both Asher's computer, and the new 15 inch Powerbook G4


IBM: 1.40 Ghz Processor
G4: 1.25 Ghz

IBM: 256 RAM
G4: 512 RAM

IBM: 40 GB HD
G4: 80 GB HD

IBM: Intel/Pro Wireless Network Connection
G4: Airport

IBM: 4.5 Ibs
G4: 5.6 Ilbs

IBM: IBM embedded security
G4: none

IBM: 32 MB ATI Mobility RADEON 9000
G4: 64 MB ATI Mobility RADEON 9600

IBM: 14.1'' Display
G4: 15.2'' Display

IBM: Cd-RW DVD
G4: CD-RW, DVD-R

The price for the IBM is $1,949
The price for the G4 is $2,599

If we add 256 RAM to the IBM, to get a total of 512 RAM, the price is at $2,039

For the final comparison, Asher will need to tell us how many USB he has.

G4: 2 USB ports, 1 FireWire 400, 1 FireWire 800, bluetooth, DVI

[Asher]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Alrighty then. Lets have a look at the features on both Asher's computer, and the new 15 inch Powerbook G4

You're comparing a different model than what I have.

I'll post corrections and add more detail.

IBM: 1.50 GHz, 1MB L2 cache
G4: 1.25 GHz, 512KB L2 cache

IBM: 400MHz system bus
G4: 133MHz system bus

IBM: 768MB RAM, CAS 2 latency
G4: 512MB RAM, CAS 3 latency

IBM: 60 GB HD, 8MB cache, 5400 rpm
G4: 80 GB HD, 2MB cache, 4500 rpm (not a typo)

IBM: Intel/Pro Wireless Network Connection
G4: Airport

IBM: 4.5 Ibs
G4: 5.6 Ilbs

IBM: IBM Embedded Security 2.0
G4: none

IBM: 64 MB ATI Mobility RADEON 9000
G4: 64 MB ATI Mobility RADEON 9600

IBM: 14.1'' Display, 1400x1050
G4: 15.2'' Display, 1280x864

IBM: CD-RW DVD
G4: CD-RW, DVD-R

IBM: 1 infrared port
G4: No infrared port

IBM: Dual diversity antennas with per-packet selection
G4: 1 antenna

IBM: Titanium casing
G4: Aluminum casing

IBM: Uncoditional loss, theft, accidental breakage warranty (6 months free, $100/6 months after).
G4: No comparable

IBM: 3 year warranty standard
G4: ?

IBM: Shock absorber for the harddrive
G4: None

IBM: 7 hours real world battery life
G4: 3-4 hours?

IBM: User-upgradable mini-PCI slot for wireless (using external antennas), for upcoming 802.11i support or other future standards
G4: No internal wireless upgrades

IBM: 2 PCMCIA Type I, II, III slots
G4: ?

G4: 2 USB ports, 1 FireWire 400, 1 FireWire 800, bluetooth, DVI

2 USB 2.0 ports, FireWire are optional PCMCIA additions that I have no interest in, S-Video out, VGA out, gigabit ethernet, v.92 56K, parallel port.

[Drake Tungsten]

Congratulations of reaching the level of a 6 year old boy arguing over which Power Ranger is better.

It's obviously the Red Power Ranger. However, with as low of standards as you have, you might end up ****ing the Blue Power Ranger...

[mrmitchell]

Just a question:

Would it be beneficial to Apple to give up its fascism and let other companies develop machines that can run Mac OSes?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jack_www
Processor
Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 3.06GHz

This thing eats power like there's no tomorrow.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
You know that Dell has moved its customer service department to India. I hope you enjoy talking to people who can hardly speak english.

Believe it or not, Indians working in call centres are at least middle class, and they all receive special training in English to sound like a middle class anglo-saxon.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Just a question:

Would it be beneficial to Apple to give up its fascism and let other companies develop machines that can run Mac OSes?

They did in the mid nineties, but it nearly put the company out of business which would have put the clone makers out too (no Apple to write the software). It's pretty well established that a competitive market for Apple clone systems will fail quickly, which shows up the moronic claims of one Apolytoner, that Apple is a bad monopoly, for the ill-informed rubbish they are.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Believe it or not, Indians working in call centres are at least middle class, and they all receive special training in English to sound like a middle class anglo-saxon.

My wife has to deal with them. The training doesn't work.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher

I think the idiocy of this comment speaks not only for your judgement with computers and operating systems, but for the computers and operating systems you promote.

Congratulations of reaching the level of a 6 year old boy arguing over which Power Ranger is better.

Just shows that you don't understand simple points that are put to you.

I'm not arguing over which power ranger is better; my position is much more analgous to someone who says that Beethoven is better than Britney Spears.

And for the umpteenth time. People generally buy Apple Computers because they want to use Apple software. Why? Because it's better looking, better designed and doesn't present the headaches that Microsoft software does. Windows is the Skoda of OSes.

I don't know how many times people have said this to you....

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
They did in the mid nineties, but it nearly put the company out of business which would have put the clone makers out too (no Apple to write the software). It's pretty well established that a competitive market for Apple clone systems will fail quickly, which shows up the moronic claims of one Apolytoner, that Apple is a bad monopoly, for the ill-informed rubbish they are.

Who claims Apple is a bad monopoly?

If this is a reference to me, I never said that.

The fact that a competitive market put Apple nearly out of business shows just how poorly that company is run, it needs a monopoly to survive because of their collective stupidity.