Ultimate Power: a more pragmatic approach

[vmxa1]

Here you go:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97047

[fanes7]

I am very pleasure to talk with you here all along, thanks very much, you make me know many aspects of this game .

Just a advice , pls open a new thread like this : we all talk about how to build all Great Wonders ( in one city ?),

In the beginning of the thread , would someone be warmhearted to upload a savefile like this : a huge map, 16 civs(more science civ more good), rage-barbarian, no-island, player is China civ.

The beginning place is nearby coast and river , and it will be better if have some cattles and wheats . The luxury is not important.

It will try to start a new game some times to happen a good map like that.

Thank you, Mountain Sage , You can play the savefile I uploaded , the Athans has almost all ancient wonder. I spent a weekend to complete it , Maybe it can be a little gift I give you, wish you like it.

[Mountain Sage]

Originally posted by vmxa1


Nah, we are still trying to get to the UP. It is just a very esoteric portion of how to do it, that is being debated.

Sure, get 1 GL/turn and you have achieved instant UP

[Mountain Sage]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Poor old Mountain Sage. Is this the thread-jack of the year?

Ah well (or should I say 'haha'?), this is the price of glory
BTW, I am also interesting in fanes7 explanations, which for the time now are = O.
Maybe he should play with us at AU209 on Deity and win by domination (building all the GW with his leaders, of course...).

Ah well, a nice whatever to you all.

[vmxa1]

NO we are trying to ascertain if it is in fact possible to get all wonders in one city, legally and if so how. I think you would agree that would go a long way towards UP, if you could get a leader by 3150 every time.
Anyway my response of "Nah" was meant to be a mild jest.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by vmxa1
Nah, we are still trying to get to the UP. It is just a very esoteric portion of how to do it, that is being debated.

I see, and the debate has shifted to the role of CTRL-L in UP. Or not.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Poor old Mountain Sage. Is this the thread-jack of the year?

Nah, we are still trying to get to the UP. It is just a very esoteric portion of how to do it, that is being debated.

[vmxa1]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83557

Here you can find all the AU games, help yourself.

[Theseus]

Jesu Christo...

fanes7, play 40 turns of ANY of AU game 20X or higher, and post the result.

Otherwise... well, about to flame you, but I will restrain myself. People here at Apolyton know that I am a pretty calm sort, but there have been two posters in the past who have similarly made me blow my top (HappySunShine and the leet guy).

Show me... or go away.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Nuclear Master
fanes7 you are actually wrong. If you put Random Seed off you are able to reload. And it's too late to have that signature. Panag already took it.

hi ,

, what , the " have a nice day " , .......

anyone can post that as a sig , in fact the more people the better

have a great sunday afternoon

[Cort Haus]

Poor old Mountain Sage. Is this the thread-jack of the year?

[fanes7]

Originally posted by fanes7
Haha, I saw all of your reply, but it seems no one of you can proof I was cheating, all that you talk are lucky , lucky and more luck . If you are more lucky , then you can complete this.

All that I do in the game can be recured at any time. If you want repeat my progress , you can start a savefile at 4000BC, and I will tell you every move , tell you how you can get a GL at 3150BC or more early. So all that I do are legitimate and logistic , because, if you do as I say you will get GL more early and more much. In the recured game you never need save and load , because I already find a path to get the GL , it is like a accurate route in thousands of path , all we do are find that route which lead to success .

The history can't be change, and that is why we play game, we want Columbus find America more early, we also want French can first mount to the Moon and even we want US can be win in Korean War, so that's why we want to play this game and that's why we love this game so much .

All of us want to load the history at 4000BC or other time-point and replay the history , So all we do in the game is find a right path for history , what is the most efficient , most peaceful , most civilized and most glorious route for the thousands of history path, we must choose , not the damnable and idiotic president or premier . History , past and future, is mine .

I explained very clear in upper , we are consistent as a player in the game.

[fanes7]

I load the savefile you give me , and occur an I/O error , the file is bad.

Pls give me another savefile.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by fanes7
hehe, arabia, is that seem as the gotm23 ?

You should know that :

The loading and recuring is not cheating.

and the reloading and can't recuring is cheating.


In a game that RNG is saved , we are all fair, and all we do are find a correct route . Thank you , have a nice day !

I know that, but I have no control over either. I did not create them. It is just a coincidence.
I do not know what you mean by recurring? Recurring means to happen again or repeatedly. I already told and I am sure you know that you can defeat the randon saved seed or RNG. So it does not mean all that much, but it is a deterent. It will make it unlikely to alter the outcomes in a drastic way. If you reload and take the exact same action, then it will repeat. If you do not take the same actions in the exact same order, it will not always repeat. We figured that out before you could choose to preserve it or not.
I am sure you grasp that the first time I mentioned it.
So lets not beat that dead horse any longer.
Anyway as I said it is easy to just lay it out in a detailed AAR with a few approriate saves and the whole this will be resolved. You will be proven correct or not. If so, then I for one will be more than willing to eat all the humble pie you wish to throw at me. I am like that, if you show me where I am wrong, I am willing to smile and acknowledge my mistake. I have been known to make them from time to time.

[Tassadar500]

fanes7 you are actually wrong. If you put Random Seed off you are able to reload. And it's too late to have that signature. Panag already took it.