Tribal Leaders

[Crousto]

This kind of thread is the ultimate proof I was waiting for : DAVOUT is an infiltrated agent sent by an AI civ (the French, look at this flag next to his name!) to sow discord among our team!

now I'd better change this immortal avatar from my profile

[GeneralTacticus]

I must note that we do not have a Messenger Service. A fine example of a civilization made great by such a Service is the Incan civilization. It was the largest single empire in North America before the Spaniards came, and (I think) with these dedicated persons news spread at about...oh, it was really fast. A few days at most from one end of the empire to the other.

OOC: It was South America, actually.

[GeneralTacticus]

Now, I must agree with those others who have condemned DAVOUT's attempts at sowing discord and mistrust within the tribe. Such accusations, based on the flimsiest of evidence, cannot be in any way taken to be for the benefit of the tribe or it's leader. I believe we must consider the possibility that he is, in fact, an agent sent by another tribe to divide us, thus leaving us vulnerable to attack.

[Togas]

My people.

The Cheif Warrior/Expidition Leader and Cheif Architect positions need not be filled for many years, but I will need to find a suitable member of the tribe to serve as our first Governor, and I would also like to have a Slave Master and High Priest appointed.

I will handle the selection of my Most Trusted Advisor taking into account what has been posted publicly and what has been told to me by your Personal Messangers.

Please recommend to me members of the tribe who can serve in these much needed positions.

--Togas

[GeneralTacticus]

I'd like to be the High Priest.

[mrmitchell]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus


OOC: It was South America, actually.

Dude, I thought I read that thing before I posted it.
I know it's South America, just being unobservant here.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by History Guy
Senator Hamilcar History-Guy

Sideshow Ninot has a question:

Why does Hamilcar History guy get the label of Senator? What is a Senator?

in all my days of pre-civilization (ya know, cuz we arent exactly a civ yet...).. i have never heard of this term, "Senator"

[jdjdjd]

I think a Senator is something like a rock. I think. They are the rock clan.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by jdjdjd
I think a Senator is something like a rock. I think. They are the rock clan.

a Rock clan?

my clan is beyond rocks! we use mud.

[jdjdjd]

Hmmm...maybe I could be high priest...or based on the description of me listed above, I could be the Court Jester, or the Legal Advisor to the Despot.

[Ninot]

I wanna be Governor of the Capitol

... or of a very well sited city

[mrmitchell]

Originally posted by jdjdjd
I think a Senator is something like a rock. I think. They are the rock clan.

You jdjdjd be wrong. Senator is like dead rock. Dead rock throw mud. Other Senators at.



Really, how can he be a senator? We haven't even founded Carthage! (Oops, I'm not supposed to know that )

[Arnelos]

Most Esteemed Leader,

I feel no need to respond to the allegations made against many, including myself... they simply do not dignify a response. I'm sure you already understand this and I apologize that I have belabored the point... it is for others' consumption rather than your own.

As for the matter of my prospective service to your leadership, I am willing to do so. Unlike many who fill the air with the sound of drivelling flattery, it is my belief that you suffer enough of this already that you likely need no more from me. We both know all too well from long experience together (as you mentioned regarding all who are here) that you already possess the wisdom to see beyond the flattery and discern the true malignance in many of their hearts, so there is no need for me to belabor this point any further in public.

It is my belief, most esteemed, that the true mark of one's penchant for loyalty in the situations where it will truly matter manifests itself not in the vociferousness of one's flattery, but in the inter-twining of one's own enlightened self-interest with your own interests. The key then, is to ensure that the self-interests of those who possess the most ability to pursue them are closely tied to your own interest (and thus that of the tribe).

You can trust me primarily because I have stated a willingness to subject myself to a position that I have clearly and honestly stated would mean my self-interest would be directly tied to your own. This gives your greatness the confidence to know far more than you could with one of these flatterers that I am indeed bound to your side - not out of a temprorary motivator such as your current popularity, but out of a far more powerful motivator - my own self-interest.

Additionally, I take the honor of myself and my family very seriously, as you also are already quite aware. I understand that, should I be sworn to serve you, I would be honor-bound by the rules of my house to follow through with that commitment, where-ever it may lead. Should I ever, of my own free will, abandon you or commit treason against you, I have reason to know that my honor and the honor of my family will be adversely affected.

As such, I do not offer myself for such a role lightly. I am fully aware of the ramifications such a role could have upon me, especially given my ambition - something I willingly admit that I possess. The decision is clear, I must either side with you and thus be bound to remain with you even should you fall, or I must not be with you and retain my freedom of action. I fully understand this as the price.

The reason I consider this price to be worthwhile is that I have faith in you. I believe, whether correctly or incorrectly, that you will be successful and that you will prosper. Many of those who offer you flattery do not have faith you - they believe that you will fail, some even may specifically believe that they will be the cause of your failure. If I believed that you would not be successful and that you would falter, I may be the type of man who would decline to serve you - I will admit. However, because you are the type I believe is truly strong in leadership and command, the type that will indeed succeed and prosper, I consider the price of giving up a great deal of my freedom of action to be worth it - for if you do succeed (and if I am successful in helping you to do so), the only logical way to prosper will be to prosper with you.

So, while I do not take this decision lightly, this is precisely why you have reason to actualy believe that I am sincere in my decision - to have faith in me. I trust that, in your wisdom, you will indeed see the merit of my argument over those of the flatterers.

Hamilcar Arnelos
(or Lorenzo Clemente if we're Spanish)

[astrologix]

What !

I'm spending hours and hours to make the flags for our glorious tribe,
sacrificing all my domestic animals to obtain the needed red colour of their bloods,
and I'm treated as a 'suspect' man !
This is an intolerable accusation ! Me and my family are offensed !

Great Leader,

I would like you to hear about my foreign origins. From my mother I've inherited the artistic skills that you've seen.
And she taught me the secrets of interpreting fate and the forces coming from the stars and the planets, our gods.
From my father, a courageous war lord, I've learned many secrets of the strategy and
tactics concerning the arts of the war. My great capacities are all in your service.

When I did meet you for the first time, I was impressed by your greatness.
I assure you I'll be the most faithful of your servitors.

Astronicus

[History Guy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear the "He's a Senator...whaaaa!" stuff...but who cares?