Tribal Leaders

[Ninot]

Originally posted by History Guy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear the "He's a Senator...whaaaa!" stuff...but who cares?

Well how well are you roleplaying if your Flying Jets above our little fishing-rafts?

thats the point of the team

stick to the times.

[DAVOUT]

From Hastragal Gisgar

To Supreme Leader Togas


Your Supremity,

I imagine that you have neither the time nor the desire to hear the endless speech in his defence that the suspect ARNELOS (Hamilcar) intended audaciously to deliver to your Supremity. I have therefore taken the liberty to analyse its content, and this is my report.

1.Excerpt of ARNELOS (Hamilcar) testimony

*I apologize that I have belaboured*
Although Harrapsgar the Shorter, the well acquainted with words of all languages, asked what belaboured could mean, has not been able to tell me whether it means betray or plot, it is an acknowledgment.

*my ambition - something I willingly admit that I possess.*
*the true malignance in many of their hearts** some even may specifically believe that they will be the cause of your failure*
This confirms beyond any doubts all my suspicions on all the others.

*the true mark of one's penchant for loyalty (is) in the inter-twining of one's own self-interest with your own interests. The key is to ensure that (my) self-interests are closely tied to your own interest.*
This is a totally new definition of loyalty: a business deal, nearly fifty/fifty.

*This gives your greatness the confidence to know that I am indeed bound to your side out of a powerful motivator - my own self-interest.*
Rinse and repeat.

*Should I ever, abandon you or commit treason against you, I have reason to know that my honor and the honor of my family will be adversely affected.*
Adversely affected in this meaning is a cataclysmic understatement which borders unconsciousness.

*The decision is clear, I must either side with you and thus be bound to remain with you even should you fall, or I must not be with you and retain my freedom of action.*
Freedom of action !!! The most daring blackmail I ever heard!

2 Conclusion
Considering the above, the previous suspicions, the attempt of blackmail, I immediately shift ARNELOS (Hamilcar) from the category Extremely suspect to Extremely suspect and dangerous.

I have recruited enough Numidian mercenaries to handle smoothly any disappearance you would order.



Hasdrubal Gisgar

[Arnelos]

Pfft. As I said before, does not dignify direct response.

Your excellency,

We've all known each other too long to have our respect for one another affected by such drivel. You need no further counsel on this matter than you have already had volunteered to you by many of your long friends and aquantances.

On a lighter note, if this man's rhetoric was not so laughable it would be advisable to permanently silence him. But, since his rhetoric has only served to garner him near univeral hatred from the esteemed members of the tribe, he may yet prove to be a useful example of the consequences of disturbing the public order even if you take no action against him .

[mrmitchell]

Originally posted by Ninot


Well how well are you roleplaying if your Flying Jets above our little fishing-rafts?

thats the point of the team

stick to the times.

Yes. 7 Darknesses ago, ran over brother with..."Senator" call it Modern Armor. When Spamish (see character thread) bring up, "Senator" pull out what he call Rock-it Launcher. Guess by Spamish that it throw Rocks far.



Yes, I am now editing my Character thread post to stick to hte times, good point

[Togas]

Hastragal Gisgar does, indeed, amuse me.

I do not see my position in jeopardy, good friends and leaders of the tribe. And why should it be? We all live happily and at peace with each other. We are about to embark on this new journey we call Civilization, and it would do the tribe little good to divide ourselves in a time such as this.

I do not take the suspicious talk to heart.

At this time I feel it is wise to announce that I have chosen someone to act as my second in command, to manage my affairs in my absence and to administer over our tribe when other duties have called me away. That person is none other than Lorenzo Clemente of the Arnelos clan.

I have heard word that Francisco Pizarro of the Tacticus warrior clan seeks to serve as our High Priest. This was a pleasant surprise indeed, as I have not known his family to be the spiritual sort, but I suppose even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.

If this is true Francisco Pizzaro de Tacticus, then perhaps you should display your true calling to the people of the tribe and help lead us with the wisdom and teaching of the great spirts. Help direct our tribe's growth and study, and help ensure that our people all commune as one.

--Togas

p.s. Perhaps it is time that we start focusing more on Spanish culture and characters, si?

[GeneralTacticus]

I have heard word that Francisco Pizarro of the Tacticus warrior clan seeks to serve as our High Priest. This was a pleasant surprise indeed, as I have not known his family to be the spiritual sort, but I suppose even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.

If this is true Francisco Pizzaro de Tacticus, then perhaps you should display your true calling to the people of the tribe and help lead us with the wisdom and teaching of the great spirts. Help direct our tribe's growth and study, and help ensure that our people all commune as one.

Yes, Great Leader, I do indeed wish to serve in the position of High Priest. Though my family has traditionally been one of great warriors, the gods came to me in my sleep a few nights ago and ordered me to seek this position. Who am I to defy the will of the gods?

[History Guy]

Whadda ya meana, Ninot? I ama just a simple squid salesman!!

Hernan de History Guy Calamari

P.S., the reason for a Carthaginian Senator was due, I'm afraid, to reading the history of the actual place, which was always run partially by a senatorial system (despite the dictators, etc.), somewhat like Rome, and therefore it was not at all far fetched or out of place. In fact, since we were all tribal leaders, we would have all been Senators for that tribe. I was not aware that it would bother anyone...

[mrmitchell]

Originally posted by Togas
even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.

Unbelievable! Togas, oh, great Despot, can not be, this, "wrong."

Perhaps it is time that we start focusing more on Spanish culture and characters, si?

Si.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by History Guy
P.S., the reason for a Carthaginian Senator was due, I'm afraid, to reading the history of the actual place, which was always run partially by a senatorial system (despite the dictators, etc.), somewhat like Rome, and therefore it was not at all far fetched or out of place. In fact, since we were all tribal leaders, we would have all been Senators for that tribe. I was not aware that it would bother anyone...

Well its fine that Carthage had a senatorial system, but as of yet, we dont. We arent even a full blow civilization yet, just nomads, lol. Maybe the RP of Senators could apply, but I would argue that it Shouldnt.

[F-PRO]

Originally posted by Ninot
We arent even a full blow civilization yet, just nomads, lol.

For nomads, we have quite a developed language skill and sense of strategy (most of us ).

Anyway, is it true that the great Togas has changed our fate into being Spanish, and that this change of heart is definite? Whatever the answer, it shows that the wise Togas has made another thoughtful decisions which only He could have made. Glory to Togas and our as yet to be defined god or gods!

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by F-PRO
Glory to Togas and our as yet to be defined god or gods!

We don't yet have Monotheism or Polytheism... hell, we don't even have Mysticism.

However, we DO have Ceremonial Burrial, so at least we have respect for the dead. For now, an afterlife myth could be what passes for our "religion" until we get at least Mysticism (when our religion can be all about "the spirits").

[F-PRO]

I think that (most) humans have always believed there is some sort of supreme being, even (or maybe especially) before civilization arose. Maybe technologies such as monotheism show that we then have made an organized religion with buildings of worship, priests etc.

[DAVOUT]

* Hastragal Gisgar thinks : F-PRO is using code sentences to transmit evil secrets to the extremely suspect and dangerous Arnelos : teq nolo j; that certainly means we should plant desarming thoughts. So there would be connexions between Lux Invicta and Arnelos. This is still worse than I expected.*

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Togas

At this time I feel it is wise to announce that I have chosen someone to act as my second in command, to manage my affairs in my absence and to administer over our tribe when other duties have called me away. That person is none other than Lorenzo Clemente of the Arnelos clan.

*Hastragal Gisgar thinks : As my master Fou-Ché used to say Choose your second in command amonst those you have the worst suspicion on, so you keep them under close attention. The Supreme Leader did not forget it...
*

[DAVOUT]

The Gisgar Family has the sad duty to inform the tribe that

------------------------------HASTRAGAL-----------------------

has been found dead this morning after an early meal of squibs.
The countless friends he had, thanks to his kindness and sincere friendship, will regret this great citizen totally devoted to the good of the tribe.
An inquiry has been requested by the family in view of identifying the supplier of the squibs presumably rotten.