xxxo xxxo xxxo ...

[SCG]

Just one other tidbit reguarding same turn government changes. If your capitol/last city is the one that produces the final beaker for the govt tech and is currently in WL (We Love) status, it doesn't fall out of WL status, meaning if you don't need an extra turn for that city to reenter WL

As an example, you are in We Love the King Day, discover republic, revolt and form a republic on one of the target days, the following turn, that city will grow if it has extra food, rather than waiting to re enter WL. Not sure whether a growing republic city would grow the turn of the revolt or not, but it could continue growing the next turn in democracy if that was the gov change and there still was excess food

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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King

SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*

[SCG]

makes sense to me anyway

I can think of one situation where you would want to delay 1 round in all cases. That would be with exactly 1 city and you are a round early discovering the govt. tech.

if you discover a round early, you will have to go into anarchy for a round, losing both science and taxes. If you wait an extra round to discover the government, you essentially gain a free round of taxes since you don't have to go into anarchy at all.

For more than 1 round, or for more than 1 city, it becomes more of a tradeoff or a guessing game. And yes, if your capitol/final city is the city to discover the tech, it will be equivalent to the situation with only 1 city.

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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King

SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*

[kcbob]

quote: <font size=1>Originally posted by rah on 08-22-2000 11:07 AM</font> I can't see delaying the development of a science, since you could be storing beakers for the next tech.

I thought the discovery of a technology wiped the beaker counter clean. Are you referring to a discovery in the middle of a turn, i.e., lots of cities, a few build improvements, etc., you discover the next technology, and then the rest of your cities finish their turn?

I think that might be what you're talking about. I guess I've never peeked at the beaker count after that chain of events.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[This message has been edited by kcbob (edited August 22, 2000).]

[Ming]

After having a chance to use this info now in both SP and MP games, I only have one thing to say...

WHY IS THREAD DROPPING LIKE A ROCK??????
It' the most important new information in a long time.

(actually, just wanted to bump this thread )

[rah]

Yes, I've used it in my last couple of MP games and it has made a difference. In the last one, I couldn't squeeze enough beakers out to hit monarchy on the right turn. So instead of accepting the revolt option when it was offered, I waited the three turns, and got another tech since I wasn't in anarchy, revolted and was back in business. This is great.

RAH

[Smash]

I nailed 2 0f my 3 government changes in OCC 16.Especially good was Republic to Demo. I was celebrating in Republic and because of an "instant" revolution,my "we love" carried over and I didn't have to restart it.

xxx0 saved me at least 6 turns in OCC 16.Gotta like it.

[SmartFart]

Congratulations!

Both for finding and sharing this little gem.
It's been awhile since someone discovered something new besides lag cheat.

[Scouse Gits]

Sorry oedo - there is now absolutely no chance of this not getting out to the Game Zone guys - many congratulations upon your discovery but this must go into the Great Library.
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The SGs in concert
"The Great Library must be built"

[oedo]

hihi, I always had the impression, there´s no better place to hide something from the zonies than this wonderful forum

the coming games will bring me an answer

[rah]

Sorry berz, but I must tell this one.

With the chart in front of him tonight, Berzerker revolted TWICE in the wrong year. It was good for amusement.

RAH
And to make it worse, he said he knew about this prior to Odeo's post but figured it was common Knowledge.

Apologies again Berzerker, but it was entertaining when you told us about it.

[War4ever]

Well Oedo, nicely done , its people like yourself who make this forum so interesting. I can't believe we are still finding out new information about this game.... talk about a classic I think the spinoff debates and new leads are interesting as well... damm i too tired to think straight..... so no great big questions from me..... but i will check this out tomorrow night



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Ah its good to be back.... i smell the fear of opponents being stalked and i tremble as they turn to face me. i hope i remember how to play!

[Chow Yun Fat]

Oedo, THANK YOU!
Can you share with us how you discover this piece of information?
I regret not checking through ALL threads in strategy forums now.
So simple, yet so useful. I feel like cheating to use this on unsuspected opponents!

[Smash]

Hmmm...a buddy has been playing a game here while I "walk" him thru(sorta).I check on his civ every hour or so.Anyway,he steals Commie in 1901 and I tell him to wait and revolt in 1902.He did,1903 came and went without a change.Change happened in 1906 indicating revolt should have been done in 1901.

Might have to double check some of those later dates.I think the change in years at 1850 might count as a 2 year increment.Unless I was halucinating(possible)

I know 1903 revolts aren't gonna happen all that often but you never know...

[DaveV]

Smash - was your buddy playing at King, or lower, difficulty? I had the same problem in MacUser's MP game at King level - the turn intervals aren't the same. What we need now is for some ambitious person to cook up tables for the lower difficulty levels...

[Smash]

Yes! He was on king level and my "list" is for deity.

duh