Official: New Region Names 2

[Drogue]

I have to object. There is no Secret Evil Akirian Police. Akiria needs no secret police, there are normal police, and the rest is done by military/intelligence units as and when are needed. And we don't hug tree's, we just admire them

I have, (as said earlier) given orders for it's destruction, as that is the only constitutional option. As such, there is no need for a court case. However, if it is not destroyed, I will take it to the court.

[Cedayon]

I think that was part of an amendment that was still in the ratification process when TKG was implementing that stage of his Aurillian evil plan, so it wasn't quite official... but since he did poll the borehole (whether or not he was obligated to do so), and it did lose, it wasn't supposed to be drilled... I don't care enough to want the thing destroyed, but it's definately not legal (nor ordered by TKG).

For those of you not following the SMACDG PBEM thread, this is essentially what happened:

[GeneralTacticus]

So I see. For some reason it never occurred to me to look at that section. IGore everyhting I've said on the subject up until now, please

[Method]

Directors and governors must poll all major decisions, such as deciding what science advance to pursue, whether to construct boreholes, or whether to construct a secret project.

[GeneralTacticus]

I never said polling boreholes was a bad idea, I said not doing it wasn't illegal. There is nothing whatsoever stating that you must poll it, by any stretch of the imagination. I'd be most surprised if you could find anything which says you must.

[Drogue]

GT: Maniac polled the people who stated that boreholes have to be polled, and if you didn't, it therefore would not be serving the people as best you can, and against the constitution. Moreover, this is not about the poll, it is that the governor, the person who should order it, did not order it. It is not about whether or not it was polled (it was) but it is that the person who should have ordered it was publicly against it.

[GeneralTacticus]

Where in the constiution does it say that boreholes have to be polled? AFAIK, it's simply a convention that's been used since Maniac's BHTP, so it isn't illegal to not poll, even if it is seen unfavourably.

[Drogue]

If the yopu want to add borehole around Xanadu, that is fine by me. Why it wasn't put somewhere out of Cyclops radius inthe first place, i don't know. But hey, so long as it's moved/destroyed, I really don't mind.

But TKG: Which mountain

[Cedayon]

You can probably "suggest" your evil plan to the acting governor of Aurillion *points to the very pro-FM, pro-Borehole AT*

[Method]

alright, i'll come up with another evil scheme for Xanadu. it involves tearing down mountains though, i warn you

*someone whispers in TKG's ear*

What?! i govern Twin Sea now? well son of a bitc....

[Drogue]

It is in the base radius of Cyclops, and thus the people of Akiria feel they are having a borehole imposed upon them. I care because it is partly in Akiria, and because, since it is in our base radius, it affects us. If it was in Aurillion, and was not it Cyclops base radius, I would not care as much, and I would not have a leg to stand on. I think it was a waste to have it in the first place, and I think it creates more harm than good.

How would you feel, if you lived in a peaceful, beautiful, idyllic base, and then, even though you'd been promised otherwise, a dirty great borehole was built within the base perimiter, near where you worked? It should not be there in the first place, and it is still more harm than good IMHO, and thus I think it should be removed. The fact I feel it is unconstitutional merely means that I can get it removed. It is equidistant between Xanadu and Cyclops, so neither base can claim it to be theirs, thus nothing should be imposed upon either base. Akiria does not want this borehole, and it should not be there.

[Method]

so you don't really even care if the borehole is in akiria or not, just that it's unconstitutional? in that case i'll just make a poll about it. i just think it's a bit of a waste to destroy a borehole now that it's been completed. silly to deprive Xanadu of those resources.

[Drogue]

There was on posted in the poll for Akiria as a new region ages ago, which showed the line going straight through the square we are talking about. Hence it is borderline, in both Aurillion and Akiria. TKG takes this to mean that any Governor can order for it (and DIA can veto) whereas I take it to mean it needs the consent of both.

[GeneralTacticus]

Do either of you have a map showing which squares belong to which region?

[Drogue]

TKG: I never said you did. I wasn't refering to you in that post, but to the borehole. It was unconstitutional to be built there. And yes, Xanadu has the same right as Cyclops. That is why I have been asking for BOTH Governors to agree to having boreholes placed where it is in 2 bases radius. Building that borehole was unconstitutional, and if you do exercise your veto power, I will challange the constitutionality of it being there in the first place.

I am sorry if you took this as a personal attack, it is not, and has nothing to do with any particular persons. I know you did not order that borehole, but that makes little difference. It should never have been built, and am trying to right that by getting it removed.