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  • #76
    I'm not saying it's complex, I'm saying it's not user friendly. It takes WAY too much time for one thing.

    There's just too much red tape for it to be as effective as it could have been.
    The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
    "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
    "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
    The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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    • #77
      You'll probably hate Civ4 then. You can do more but it won't be easier than Civ3.
      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Alexander01
        I'm not saying it's complex, I'm saying it's not user friendly. It takes WAY too much time for one thing.

        There's just too much red tape for it to be as effective as it could have been.
        I don't see how. I find it very easy and quick to use.

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        • #79
          Goodness, you folks just want to ride me into the ground!

          Example: Say I want to change the leaderheads for a faction to those of a different faction. I can't choose from a menu. I have to look it up, then type it in myself. It's things like that that bother me.

          Anyway, this thread is about civs. I didn't start it so I could argue about the editor.
          The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
          "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
          "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
          The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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          • #80
            But you can't change the leaderheads in C2, IIRC - or if you can, you have to follow the same procedure.

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            • #81
              So anyway, here's my Civ theory.

              Civ4:
              Americans
              Arabs
              Aztecs
              Babylonians
              Chinese
              Egyptians
              English
              French
              Germans
              Greeks
              Indians
              Japanese
              Malinese
              Mongols
              Persians
              Romans
              Russians
              Spanish

              Expansion 1:
              Assyrians
              Carthaginians
              Celts
              Incans
              Koreans
              Mayans
              Turks
              Vikings

              Expansion 2:
              Byzantines
              Dutch
              Hebrews
              Hittites
              Portuguese
              Polish
              Sumerians
              Zulus (heaven forbid) or a Native North American Civ.
              The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
              "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
              "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
              The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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              • #82
                What about the Canadians?
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                • #83
                  I think the Zulu and Iroquois will be in the first release, instead of the Arabs and Mongols.

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                  • #84
                    Oh, Mongolia is a civ we know is in. So maybe Spain gets edged out.

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                    • #85
                      Out of the old initial list (see the first page of this thread), I think the Incans are the most likely to be dropped.
                      The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
                      "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
                      "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
                      The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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                      • #86
                        How about the 'americans' become a generic civ for the old natives in northern america? To represent the semi-nomadic tribes there? Blasphemy?
                        He who knows others is wise.
                        He who knows himself is enlightened.                         -- Lao Tsu

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                        • #87
                          No, just impossible. It's not going to happen.

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                          • #88
                            Out of all the civs, America is perhaps the only one that will ALWAYS be in when a new Civ game comes out. Ironic, don't you think?
                            The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
                            "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
                            "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
                            The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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                            • #89
                              I also think it's untrue. Among those that will never be left out:

                              America
                              Greece
                              Rome
                              Egypt
                              Babylon
                              Persia
                              England
                              France
                              Germany
                              Russia
                              China
                              Japan
                              India

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Alexander01
                                So anyway, here's my Civ theory.
                                I think your list is about right except that I think the Zulus are in and Spain is out. ??

                                Maybe the "just the facts m'am" thread has definite information?
                                Let Them Eat Cake

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