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Posted by DrSpike on 29-12-2005 06:45:

FG: Hangman 30

Hangman Rules, History and Standings

Rules


Word History:
code:
[word - winner] Communism - FrustratedPoet Utilitarian - joncha Hypnotic - DrSpike Bilious - Jamski Rhythm - DrSpike Jumpy - Jonny Eparchy - DrSpike Euology - alva Airline - Paddy the Scot Sydney - ... Muscular - Theben Plus ones - DrSpike Wrought - joncha Periwinkle - Jonny Hemiplegia - DrSpike Pyrrhic - Zopperoni Dichotomy - vovan Ethereal - joncha Humeral - vovan Nonproliferation - joncha Sclerotium - DrSpike Python - Zopperoni Xylophonist - duke o' york Weltanschauung - Jonny^ Quadripartite - joncha Juxtapose - DrSpike Quizzical - vovan Prerequisite - Jonny Anthocyanin - vovan Clique - Skanky Burns Retrograde - vovan Chromatid - Jonny Monotreme - vovan Clergy - Theben Woozy - DrSpike Prophylaxis - Theben Perpetuity - DrSpike Jokily - ... Quixotic - Zopperoni Juggernaut - DrSpike Jailbird - Paddy the Scot Coarse - Zopperoni Epithelium - duke o' york Buggy - ... Teepee - DrSpike Phlegm - Zopperoni Hybrid - Theben Monotonous - duke o' york Pseud - Caligastia Quantitates - Skanky Burns Coracle - ... Ventilate - joncha Churl - DrSpike Bubbly - Paddy the Scot Unforgiven - DrSpike Jubilant - Jonny Sawyer - DrSpike Impugn - Caligastia Hymnal - Theben Larynx - Zopperoni Wyvern - joncha Frank - ... Wight - ... Changeover - duke o' york Guzzle - ...^(Zopperoni) Dyslexic - Theben Gently - alva^ Schedule - DrSpike Jazzily - ... Buffoon - joncha Shark - DrSpike Quicklime - joncha Clamp - ... Whoever - DrSpike^ Haying - alva^ Check - ... Conception - Jonny Manpower - Theben Hypocotyl - joncha Mescal - Theben Serviced - Rasputin^ Amylogen - joncha Crane - ... March - Japher Infinity - DrSpike Daubed - ... Dizzy - ... Flaccid - duke o' york Blunderbuss - Caligastia Hungry - ...* Vowels - Rasputin Megavars - ...* Boiler - Jonny Market - joncha Gusty - ... Hanged - Zopperoni Phthisical - DrSpike Bulbous - Zopperoni Gymkhana - DrSpike Ghoul - joncha Brash - Jonny Central - Rasputin Manual - Theben Auxotroph - Jonny Zesty - Chaunk Tmesis - DrSpike Idyll - duke o' york Svelt - alva Civilization - Jonny Transpose - Chaunk Winking - ... Disabled - duke o' york Brochure - Paddy the Scot^ Cabernet - joncha Match - Nuclear Master Tedious - DrSpike Budge - kermit_the_frog Unique - alva Column - DrSpike Milky - ... Gabble - vovan Demonic - DrSpike Jackdaw - duke o' york Quetzalcoatl - Skanky Burns Onomatopoeia - DrSpike Which - ... Oxygen - vovan Cyborg - DrSpike Whiff - ... Cashew - duke o' york Gauze - Zopperoni^ Virology - Chaunk Hangman - DrSpike Wavily - Caligastia Uncopyrightable - DrSpike Mummify - Paddy the Scot Passport - DrSpike Pachyderm - Caligastia Bailiff - DrSpike Schism - Skanky Burns Spring - kermit_the_frog Zenith - Skanky Burns Tarring - DrSpike Cough - ... Bugged - Paddy the Scot Assassin - vovan Locust - alva Google - joncha Hardy - ...* Shark - Caligastia Syzygy - vovan Volcano - DrSpike Jawing - ... Kobold - duke o' york Trouble - Theben^ Insinuate - joncha Midge - DrSpike Zygote - Caligastia Gnarly - vovan Dimorph - Theben Philander - Zopperoni^ Wigwam - DrSpike Jagged - ... Baize - ... Jigsaw - duke o' york Questions - Kalius Assumption - joncha^ Drench - ... Krill - Kucinich Lexicon - DrSpike Bucket - ... Nymph - ... Bouyed - Jonny Cowed - DrSpike Judge - duke o' york Gypsophila - vovan Policy - DrSpike Xylology - vovan Philology - Kuciwalker Adder - ... Flash - Paddy the Scot Birthday - Japher Willow - Ljube-ljcvetko Myelin - vovan Mirthless - joncha Bunch - ... Marks - ... Mugger - Chaunk Phallic - duke o' york Popinjay - ...* Synod - joncha Girth - Ljube-ljcvetko Brock - Japher Sufficient - Ljube-ljcvetko Ontogeny - Kuciwalker Llama - duke o' york Infundibuliform - Kuciwalker Flibbertigibit - DrSpike Baggy - ... Jungle - Kuciwalker Furry - ...* Gaggle - ... Bolter - Paddy the Scot Machinist - duke o' york Quarto - civman2000 Vivify - duke o' york Hullo - ...* Hazel - DrSpike^ Mammal - Ljube-ljcvetko Waive - joncha Greed - Jonny Bower - ... Climax - Ljube-ljcvetko Waiver - ... Bowing - joncha Bodily - Paddy the Scot Liberty - DrSpike Jovial - Ljube-ljcvetko Gagger - duke o' york Orotund - Paddy the Scot Classical - DrSpike Mauve - Paddy the Scot Power - Ljube-ljcvetko Foxily - ... ****ing - Heresson Entangle - Ljube-ljcvetko Hexaemeron - civman2000 Gypsum - duke o' york Spike - Ljube-ljcvetko Badger - Jonny Xylem - DrSpike Wizard - Ljube-ljcvetko Huzzah - joncha Jorum - ... Minty - Ljube-ljcvetko Jivey - vovan Acronym - Paddy the Scot Sunbathe - joncha Gamer - Ljube-ljcvetko Wifely - DrSpike Xenia - Ljube-ljcvetko Sobriquet - DrSpike^ Bugle - joncha Brake - Ljube-ljcvetko Hazier - joncha Batch - ... Clank - ... Flunk - Ljube-ljcvetko Jazzer - ... Iambic - vovan Voltaic - joncha Jolts - ... Girth - vovan Alkynes - Sparrowhawk Complex - Ljube-ljcvetko Hawser - duke o' york Parquetry - vovan^ Luscious - DrSpike Fizzy - ... March - Ljube-ljcvetko Hexagon - vovan Grump - Spaced Cowboy^ Hydraulic - joncha Swore - ... Choke - Theben Sloth - Sparrowhawk Clock - joncha Punch - Heresson Yonder - civman2000 Zigzag - Sparrowhawk Puzzle - joncha Jumble - vovan Pointer - joncha Flash - Jonny Smith - joncha Hound - Japher Pistachio - Theben Minimize - Sparrowhawk Pandemic - joncha Orate - vovan Elation - joncha Black - Sparrowhawk Window - Theben Evergreen - civman2000 Jived - ... Paganized - DrSpike^ Foggy - ... Hobby - ... Mucky - ... Havoc - ...* Joker - DrSpike^ Huffy - ... Yardarm - joncha Scoff - Ljube-ljcvetko Khalif - DrSpike* Muggy - ... Fight - Heresson Gambol - DrSpike Dummy - Ljube-ljcvetko Galactic - DrSpike Burgh - joncha Calve - Jonny Uloid - joncha Wails - ... Gaunt - DrSpike Boggy - Sparrowhawk Flower - joncha Hinge - Heresson Vortex - Sparrowhawk Pickle - -Jrabbit Gauche - DrSpike Gulch - ... Bough - ... Fuzzy - Ljube-ljcvetko Vitric - duke o' york Fluffy - DrSpike^ Muddy - joncha Fudge - Paddy the Scot Chink - Ljube-ljcvetko Mitochondrion - duke o' york Bronze - joncha Runic - Ljube-ljcvetko Circumflex - joncha Harden - Ljube-ljcvetko Virus - DrSpike Windy - ... Bobby - snoopy369 Plink - Ljube-ljcvetko Lying - vovan Bibcock - Drogue Synonym - Jonny Octane - Sparrowhawk Phony - Jonny Kilts - vovan Thermos - DrSpike Mulch - Ljube-ljcvetko Fiendish - snoopy369 Curly - joncha Beast - snoopy369 Check - Paddy the Scot Happy - duke o' york Bantam - joncha Finch - ... Hunch - Sparrowhawk White - joncha Flock - Tuberski Lateral - Jonny Ethos - vovan Ravenous - Jonny Gelid - snoopy369 Quick - ... Puffy - DrSpike Dumpy - ... Whack - Ljube-ljcvetko Knocks - joncha Wrong - Drogue Vying - DrSpike Fizzed - ... Jammy - Ljube-ljcvetko Daimyos - snoopy369 Jimmy - ... Grizzle - joncha Prickly - civman2000 Zigzag - Spiffor Merry - snoopy369 Primp - ... Drink - Drogue Complexity - Joncha Buggy - ... Boule - DrSpike Billy - ... Muggy - Ljube-ljcvetko Gingko - Paddy the Scot Pyjamas - Ljube-ljcvetko Quicken - DrSpike Mulch - ... Bobby - Paddy the Scot Chick - civman2000 Qwerty - Drogue Bevvy - ... Kicked - ... Bream - Ljube-ljcvetko* Dower - ... Highlight - joncha Brunch - snoopy369 Grubby - Jonny Honey - Ljube-ljcvetko Dowry - duke o' york Mastiff - Drogue Flight - civman2000 Guzzle - Drogue Dozen - snoopy369^ Lucky - ... Dodger - Sparrowhawk Valve - Ljube-ljcvetko Waver - Sparrowhawk Glazed - Theben Webbed - DrSpike Bauxite - snoopy369 Doyen - ... Plump - ... Chill - Paddy the Scot Sling - ... Bliss - ... Drink - joncha Divvy - ...* Coward - Nimitz Printer - DrSpike Humpy - ... Biddy - Paddy the Scot Gunge - ...* Climb - ... Flirt - ... Bliss - ... Skiff - Ljube-ljcvetko Forum - snoopy369 Mythic - joncha Brush - Ljube-ljcvetko Folia - Paddy the Scot Shine - ... Delay - snoopy369 Exempt - Paddy the Scot Plump - ... Final - ...* Plonk - joncha* Mostly - snoopy369 Funny - DrSpike Boggy - ... Muddy - ... Dummy - duke o' york Tragacanth - joncha^* Grail - snoopy369 Jumpy - ... Worst - joncha Junky - DrSpike Jived - ... Fuggy - ...* Jimmy - ... Baggy - civman2000 Crumby - Ljube-ljcvetko* Tetragrammaton - joncha Hoist - Paddy the Scot Trick - ... Climb - ... Frill - Krill Theatre - Ljube Quirk - joncha Works - duke o' york* Poppy - Nikolai Octagon - joncha Wrack - ... Prong - snoopy369 Sprawl - Paddy the Scot Ivory - snoopy369 Vodka - joncha Musty - ... Punch - Sparrowhawk Glade - snoopy369 Blown - duke o' york Cocky - ... Fixer - ... Squill - DrSpike ***** - ... Drench - joncha^ Hanged - Theben Midnoon - snoopy369* Puzzle - Ljube Oarsmen - joncha Dummy - ... Mobbed - ... Hugger - ... Ketch - Paddy the Scot Bliss - ... Bright - snoopy369 Dumpy - ... Gaudy - James the Scot Password - joncha Jumper - ... Quirt - James the Scot Skill - ... Trade - Sparrowhawk Staff - joncha Pasty - snoopy369 Frock - joncha Drought - snoopy369 Whiff - joncha Frills - James the Scot Wrong - DrSpike Junky - ... Gully - ... Quack - ...^(Ljube) Video - joncha Powder - Jaguar Faqir - ... Ochre - joncha Jigger - Jaguar Noggin - joncha Curst - Jaguar Coccyx - duke o' york* Stage - Nikolai Envious - joncha Galled - Nikolai Pulsometer - DrSpike Zippy - ...^(Jaguar) Zilch - ...* Rangy - Ljube^ Alias - duke o' york Parry - Jaguar Cinch - joncha Dairy - Paddy the Scot Shift - PLATO Eyrir - joncha^ Grand - Jaguar Vexil - DrSpike Gland - ... Fizzy - Rasputin Flavour - joncha Scrag - duke o' york Shank - joncha Pigmy - ... Trick - Chaunk Quoth - joncha Candy - civman2000 Chuff - Ljube Whose - civman2000 Wimpy - ...* Lewdly - joncha^ Brown - DrSpike Bawdy - duke o' york Splash - civman2000 Murky - duke o' york Bothy - Jaguar Riven - DrSpike Jived - Chaunk Adductor - snoopy369 Clump - joncha Dight - ... Patch - Snoopy Guild - Joncha Swell - Jaguar Match - ... Light - ...^ Phalloplasty - Rasputin^ Preaxial - DrSpike Witty - ... Pitch - Aqualung Harns - Rasputin^

... word not guessed
* no point awarded
^ word setter changed

Current Rankings:
code:
1. DrSpike 106 2. joncha 96 3. Ljube-ljcvetko 42 4. Paddy the Scot 35 5. duke o' york 32 6. snoopy369 29 7. vovan 24 8. Jonny 22 9. Theben 16 10. Sparrowhawk 13 11. civman2000 12 12. Zopperoni 11 13. Jaguar 11 14. Drogue 8 15. Caligastia 7 15. Kuciwalker 7 15. alva 7 15. Chaunk 7 19. Skanky Burns 6 20. Rasputin 6 21. Japher 4 21. Heresson 4 21. James the Scot 4 24. Nikolai 3 kermit_the_frog 2 FrustratedPoet 1 Jamski 1 Nuclear Master 1 Kalius 1 Spaced Cowboy 1 -Jrabbit 1 Tuberski 1 Spiffor 1 Nimitz 1 Krill 1 PLATO 1 Aqualung 1

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Posted by DrSpike on 29-12-2005 06:46:

The ball is in Joncha's court.
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Posted by rah on 29-12-2005 07:13:

Let me know when you've gotten the stats for 29 so it can be removed.
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Posted by DrSpike on 29-12-2005 07:27:

I've done them. However, a grace period of a few days for those who want to save the thread itself would be nice. It's not just stats, it's rules discussions etc.
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Posted by rah on 29-12-2005 07:36:

No problem, I had already planned to do that.
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Posted by joncha on 29-12-2005 13:27:

New word:

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5 letters
10 guesses remaining
incorrect: ...
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Posted by joncha on 29-12-2005 13:28:

Here's a zipped archive of hangman 29:
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Posted by fishsticks on 29-12-2005 13:32:

C
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Posted by Rasputin on 29-12-2005 14:17:

V
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Posted by joncha on 29-12-2005 14:21:

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5 letters
8 guesses remaining
incorrect: C, V
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Posted by snoopy369 on 29-12-2005 17:57:

O

Vowels

Oh, and will the archive of 30 contain the zip of 29? ie, if we keep archiving the old threads, will one have to save each archive, or simply the most recent, to have all?
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Posted by joncha on 29-12-2005 19:52:

The way I saved it, no. You'll just have to keep a copy of each archive.
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Posted by Rasputin on 29-12-2005 20:00:

E
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Posted by Rasputin on 29-12-2005 20:01:

i stil lcant bleeive you think it that important to keep records of a hangman game
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Posted by snoopy369 on 29-12-2005 20:28:

Without records, there would be no spreadsheetery.

Without spreadsheetery, there would be no reason to live.

Hence records lead to life.
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Posted by Rasputin on 29-12-2005 21:41:

that can be true , statistics are wonderful things.

i just hate the way that the records lead to Egotism in what sohuld be KIDS game....
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Posted by joncha on 29-12-2005 21:56:

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5 letters
6 guesses remaining
incorrect: C, V, O, E
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Posted by Ljube on 30-12-2005 07:01:

R


Posted by Sparrowhawk on 30-12-2005 07:54:

I
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Posted by joncha on 30-12-2005 12:41:

_ I _ _ _

5 letters
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incorrect: C, V, O, E, R
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Posted by Jaguar on 30-12-2005 15:19:

Y
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Posted by PLATO on 30-12-2005 18:44:

L
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Posted by joncha on 30-12-2005 18:50:

_ I _ _ _

5 letters
3 guesses remaining
incorrect: C, V, O, E, R, Y, L
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Posted by snoopy369 on 30-12-2005 19:33:

Hmmm

Tough call here ... so many possibilities.

H eliminates more than any individual vowel, however.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 31-12-2005 17:42:

Hmm.

We need a 24 hour rule on guesses ...
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 31-12-2005 17:45:

okay, I'll do my part.......T

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Posted by joncha on 31-12-2005 17:47:



_ I _ H T

5 letters
3 guesses remaining
incorrect: C, V, O, E, R, Y, L
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Posted by Hercules on 31-12-2005 20:15:

I am not guessing G btw, just in case.


Posted by Rasputin on 31-12-2005 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Hercules
I am not guessing G btw, just in case.
why not ..

G
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Posted by Jaguar on 31-12-2005 22:50:

F
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Posted by joncha on 31-12-2005 22:52:

_ I G H T

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incorrect: C, V, O, E, R, Y, L, F
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Posted by Jaguar on 31-12-2005 23:07:

BIGHT
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Posted by joncha on 31-12-2005 23:09:

_ I G H T

5 letters
1 guess remaining
incorrect: C, V, O, E, R, Y, L, F, BIGHT
eliminated: Jaguar
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Posted by DrSpike on 01-01-2006 03:09:

M
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 03:14:

The word was DIGHT and the password is weasel.
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 03:24:

New word:

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incorrect: ...
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Posted by Rasputin on 01-01-2006 04:20:

X
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Posted by DrSpike on 01-01-2006 04:23:

Did we add a rule that we could vote to overrule silly guesses?
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Posted by Rasputin on 01-01-2006 06:08:

if we can have silly words like dight then nothing wrong with a X
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 09:02:

X is a stupid guess at this stage in the game.

However, we can't stop you from guessing it, either.

(However, I'd ask people be at least mostly sober before guessing in hangman )
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 09:02:

And in addition, Archaic should absolutely be one of the non-allowed categories.
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Posted by Nikolai on 01-01-2006 10:12:

Let's get on guessing!

Y
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 10:39:

Oops ... forgot to guess
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Posted by DrSpike on 01-01-2006 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by snoopy369
And in addition, Archaic should absolutely be one of the non-allowed categories.


Is that what dight is? I think we should disallow it.
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 12:48:

If you'd like to change the rules, we can disallow it the next time.

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incorrect: X, Y
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 14:17:

O

I'd like to change the rules to disallow archaic words.
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Posted by Jaguar on 01-01-2006 15:28:

H
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 15:31:

Let's discuss any potential rule changes in the discussion thread.

_ _ _ _ H

5 letters
7 guesses remaining
incorrect: X, Y, O
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 01-01-2006 16:12:

C

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Posted by Nikolai on 01-01-2006 17:34:

I
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 17:39:

_ _ _ C H

5 letters
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Posted by Rasputin on 01-01-2006 18:39:

B
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Posted by Rasputin on 01-01-2006 18:40:

lets change the rules to make no words less than 8 letters long
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 18:50:

U
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Posted by Ljube on 01-01-2006 18:53:

Archaic words are so quanit.

U


Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 19:02:

_ _ _ C H

5 letters
4 guesses remaining
incorrect: X, Y, O, I, B, U
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Posted by Ljube on 01-01-2006 19:08:

N


Posted by Ljube on 01-01-2006 19:11:

On the second thought, stupid...

cause the word could be leach, fetch or something and hmm, not many words with N, if any...


Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 19:22:

Eh, it's probably some olde english word ... you probably have as good a guess as any
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Posted by civman2000 on 01-01-2006 20:03:

A
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 20:07:

_ A _ C H

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incorrect: X, Y, O, I, B, U, N
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Posted by civman2000 on 01-01-2006 20:09:

WATCH

Other possibilities I can think of:
LATCH MATCH PATCH
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 20:11:

There are a lot more than that.

_ A _ C H

5 letters
2 guesses remaining
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Posted by civman2000 on 01-01-2006 20:15:

Hmmm...I see I missed MARCH and PARCH, but I can't think of any others...
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 20:26:

How about peach, to start with.

Anyhow, a letter would have been better than a word. Greedy word guesses

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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 20:28:

I don't think peach will fit.

_ A _ C H

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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 20:31:

Hmm, good point. I am not smart this evening.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 20:33:

Well, hmm. I think every word left has a T - everything I can think of anyway - so I'll go ahead and make a not-particularly-greedy guess of PATCH.
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 20:34:

Nice save.

The password is teasel.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 21:32:

If only Khabi could make saves like that ... new word in a bit.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 22:06:

_ _ _ _ _

5 letters, Guesses left: 10
Guessed:
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Posted by joncha on 01-01-2006 22:07:

A
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 01-01-2006 22:18:

O

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Posted by snoopy369 on 01-01-2006 23:07:

_ _ _ _ _

5 letters, Guesses left: 8
Guessed: AO
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Posted by Ljube on 02-01-2006 04:17:

Y


Posted by civman2000 on 02-01-2006 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by snoopy369
How about peach, to start with.

Anyhow, a letter would have been better than a word. Greedy word guesses

R

I didn't realize that the -arch words were possible until after my guess.

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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 09:43:

_ _ I _ _

5 letters, Guesses left: 7
Guessed: AOY
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 12:23:

C
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R
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 12:38:

_ _ I _ _

5 letters, Guesses left: 5
Guessed: CRAYO _ _ (finish THAT hangman )
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T
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S
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 15:08:

_ _ I _ _

5 letters, Guesses left: 3
Guessed: TOY CARS
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 02-01-2006 15:09:

D

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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:14:

L
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_ _ I L D

5 letters, Guesses left: 3
Guessed: TOY CARS
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:16:

GUILD
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build
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:18:

I saw that edit.
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 02-01-2006 15:21:

?if he guessed guild and saw you guessed it already, what is wrong with editing??

(I know editting a guess is against the rules, but if he didn't edit and it was guild that he guessed he could guess again but it would create another post). If he guessed something like child on the other hand, maybe that's something else entirely.

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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 15:23:

Guild is correct.

Editing is never allowed. The correct way to do it is to post again. Build would have been invalid.
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:24:

His original guess was guild, which means he could have just posted his new guess. He will probably argue that it wasn't a valid guess, so he could freely edit it. It's poor form, though.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 15:25:

Editing is *invalid*, period. Not just poor form. Allowing any edit at all opens up a whole can of worms which we should not get into.
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Sparrowhawk
?if he guessed guild and saw you guessed it already, what is wrong with editing??

(I know editting a guess is against the rules, but if he didn't edit and it was guild that he guessed he could guess again but it would create another post). If he guessed something like child on the other hand, maybe that's something else entirely.

* Sparrowhawk

I was online at the time. Supposing I had posted "build" at the same time that he had edited to "build". There is no possible way of judging who got the guess in first.
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:34:

/me points again to the discussion thread. :cute;

New word:

_ _ _ _ _

5 letters
10 guesses remaining
incorrect: ...
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Posted by DrSpike on 02-01-2006 15:39:

I don't think there is anything wrong with an immediate edit on a crosspost. It is posts that show as edited that are clearly against the rules.

Perhaps if that is not what the group feels a note concerning this could be added to the rules following a vote. That would be better than throwing accusations of 'poor form' around when as Sparrow suggests, it isn't entirely clear at all.
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Posted by DrSpike on 02-01-2006 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha
* joncha points again to the discussion thread. :cute;


You posted your 'poor form' remark here. I'll respond here, thanks.
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 15:46:

U
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 15:48:

O

Edits have always been wrong. What's the difference between an edit that shows and not, other than five minutes? It doesn't make it any less wrong.
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Posted by DrSpike on 02-01-2006 15:53:

Well the difference is crossposts 5 minutes apart don't happen.

Maybe people will see it your way. Removing myself, Joncha and Jaguar for obvious reasons, we have 1 who does (you) and Sparrow, whose immediate reaction was that the immediate edit was fine in the circumstances.

Worth a vote I'd say, before casting aspersions. This is particularly true at a time when the game could still easily get shut down or moved.
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 15:59:

New word:

_ _ _ _ _

5 letters
8 guesses remaining
incorrect: U, O
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 16:32:

I've never seen anyone defend edits before this, spike. Of any sort. Every time a crosspost in the past has happened, either no edit took place, or the offending party was told not to edit next time. It doesn't change things for it to be you.

I'm not casting aspersions, either - simply stating what I see as fact. Not as a 'rule change', but what I see as clearly part of the rules already.

Rule 5. Guesses cannot be changed after being posted.

It does not say anything about crossposts. It does not say 'unless someone else guessed what you already guessed'. It simply says they cannot be changed.
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Posted by DrSpike on 02-01-2006 17:25:

I know you weren't casting aspersions. I do think though that if that is your take it should be explicit in the rules. Both myself and Sparrow's immediate reaction was immediate edits because of a crosspost are fine. Clearly they are different from an later edit after you have seen future guesses/information. If you think the rule should apply to both, fair enough. But I don't think it's unreasonable to raise the question.

I think I can even remember times when people have suggested after a flurry that they edited because of a crosspost, or posted their guess with a to indicate this. No one complained then.
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Posted by Ljube on 02-01-2006 17:59:

Still, it's best to simply post a second valid guess and avoid the fuss. Furthermore, Jaguar presented a good argument against any kind of editing, flagged or not.


I


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Posted by Rasputin on 02-01-2006 18:25:

also may i add that perhaps the reason in the past that people were happy to add an extra psot if they cross posted was to get a +1 , if Rah now delteing the threads and posts not ocunting then people not so inclined to do a new psot jsut as easy to edit.



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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 18:42:

_ _ _ _ _

5 letters
6 guesses remaining
incorrect: U, O, I, F
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 18:49:

E
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 19:28:

L
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 19:30:

_ _ E L L

5 letters
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Posted by civman2000 on 02-01-2006 19:39:

Can't be too many possibilities...DWELL
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 19:43:

_ _ E L L

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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 19:43:

Sigh ... there are more than 6 possibilities that come to mind, most of which begin with
S

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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 19:45:

P
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 19:46:

S _ E L L

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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 19:47:

SWELL
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SMELL
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 19:49:

Luckily Jaguar is correct, as we never did clarify the multiple word guesses point.

The password is 867-5309.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 19:50:

Great password. Multiple word guesses, according to the current rules, should be accepted until and unless you change the rules.
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 19:50:

For a good time, call
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 02-01-2006 19:58:

Anyone else have the song playing in their head now?

(or are you all too young for that )

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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 20:04:

I'm 17 and I know the song.

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You know what to do
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 20:05:

A
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 20:06:

A

I was quite surprised Jag knew it

and yes, the song is quite going through my head I may have to itunes it ...
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Posted by snoopy369 on 02-01-2006 20:06:

Bah, try that again.

O
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 20:08:

I hate it when the first guess is right.

_ A _ _ _

O

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Y
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 02-01-2006 20:11:

R

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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 20:23:

_ A _ _ _

O, Y, R

7
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Posted by joncha on 02-01-2006 20:24:

N
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L
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Posted by Jaguar on 02-01-2006 20:25:

_ A _ _ _

O, Y, R, N, L

5
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F
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I
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Posted by Ljube on 03-01-2006 01:25:

Why not U?


Posted by DrSpike on 03-01-2006 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ljube
Still, it's best to simply post a second valid guess and avoid the fuss. Furthermore, Jaguar presented a good argument against any kind of editing, flagged or not.


I


Well maybe. Say there are 2 possibilities. If person A posts after 5 seconds, and person B after 6 seconds with the same guess, person B to make a new post under this interpretation of the rules. They have to wait 30 seconds (unless plussies) for this privilege. 29 seconds later someone else (person c!) posts the guess they were going to make and beats them, despite the fact they were 29 seconds slower.

I'd say person B has a right to feel aggrieved. If he had edited he was not doing so to get an advantage - he would just be trying to get his 50/50 chance at the word.
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Posted by Jaguar on 03-01-2006 07:43:

_ A _ _ _

O, Y, R, N, L, F, I

3


Still possibly salvageable.
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S?
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E
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Posted by Jaguar on 03-01-2006 17:42:

_ A _ _ _

O, Y, R, N, L, F, I, S, E

1
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Posted by joncha on 03-01-2006 17:52:

U
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Posted by DrSpike on 03-01-2006 18:00:

gamut
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Posted by Jaguar on 03-01-2006 18:07:

There's only one guess left, so I'm not sure additional guesses are valid. With one or two guesses left, it's one guess at a time.

However, the word was MATCH.
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Posted by DrSpike on 03-01-2006 18:13:

Well words can be guessed at any time according to the rules, though I have argued for some time this should be changed. Naturally there was only an incentive to guess words with a U in, or the guess would be moot anyway.
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Posted by Jaguar on 03-01-2006 18:13:

I don't know why you all insisted on finding another vowel. The password was "dumbledore".

_ _ _ _ _

10
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Posted by joncha on 03-01-2006 18:16:



U
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A
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Posted by snoopy369 on 03-01-2006 20:42:

Spike's word guess was valid, and pretty good in the scheme of things. No additional letter guess would have been valid, but word guesses are always valid under the current rules. (Rule guesses containing letters that haven't already been guessed and marked invalid, anyway.)
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Posted by civman2000 on 03-01-2006 20:59:

Spike's guess was valid, but if he had, say, guessed MATCH, he still wouldn't have won, since the 10 guesses would have run out before his guess. As per rule 1, once 10 incorrect guesses have been made, the game is over. It does not state explicitly that no more word guesses can be made, but it doesn't state explicitly that the game ends and the setter gets the point either, so the fact that it isn't stated explicitly doesn't prevent common sense from dictating how it works.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 03-01-2006 21:17:

/me bows down to civman2000's common sense

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Posted by Rasputin on 03-01-2006 21:22:

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Posted by DrSpike on 04-01-2006 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by civman2000
Spike's guess was valid, but if he had, say, guessed MATCH, he still wouldn't have won, since the 10 guesses would have run out before his guess. As per rule 1, once 10 incorrect guesses have been made, the game is over. It does not state explicitly that no more word guesses can be made, but it doesn't state explicitly that the game ends and the setter gets the point either, so the fact that it isn't stated explicitly doesn't prevent common sense from dictating how it works.


Well, if I had guessed match that would be stupid, as if it were right Joncha would have killed the man with U, as in fact happened.

There is nothing wrong with a word guess containing U, as in the event U was in the word it could still be correct, and you can guess the word at any time.

I have actually argued a lot of times that as soon as the conditions for an update are met (in this case after the U) then no more guesses are valid. However, I continuously fail in this quest. With the rules as they stand my guess was fine.
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Posted by Jaguar on 04-01-2006 03:54:

_ _ _ _ _

8

U, A
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P
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E
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_ _ _ _ _

6

U, A, P, E
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I
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Posted by Jaguar on 04-01-2006 15:44:

I'll be back in a couple of hours. Have another guess in by then.
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N
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Posted by Jaguar on 04-01-2006 17:28:

_ I _ _ _

5

U, A, P, E, N
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Posted by joncha on 04-01-2006 18:46:

R
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T
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Posted by Jaguar on 05-01-2006 07:41:

_ I _ _ T

4

U, A, P, E, N, R
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G
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 05-01-2006 09:17:

Debating between a G and an H. I am sure one of the experts will tell me if I choose the wrong one

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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 05-01-2006 09:18:

Debated too long it seems, though I don't see the harm in my going back and changing the bold to an H (and who would know!! ).

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Fine with me.
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_ I G H T

4

U, A, P, E, N, R


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M
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B
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_ I G H T

2

U, A, P, E, N, R, M, B


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Posted by DrSpike on 05-01-2006 15:12:

Wight
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_ I G H T

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U, A, P, E, N, R, M, B, Wight

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Posted by joncha on 05-01-2006 15:28:

FIGHT
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Posted by Jaguar on 05-01-2006 15:31:

The word was LIGHT and the password was "sectumsempra".

The GH set is a useful one. That's why I have a habit of guessing H.

New word coming up shortly.
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Posted by Jaguar on 05-01-2006 15:39:

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10
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Bah. Bah, I says.

U
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I
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Posted by Jaguar on 05-01-2006 17:22:

_ _ _ _ _

U I - 8
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A
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H
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U I H - 7
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Posted by joncha on 05-01-2006 20:47:

N
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R
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U I H N R - 5
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Y
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L

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_ A _ _ Y

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P
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Posted by Jaguar on 06-01-2006 00:13:

I made an error in updating, because I'm tired. The letter Y should have appeared twice in my update. The word was Yappy, which would mean that Paddy would have gotten the word had I updated correctly.

I suggest he be given the point anyway.
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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 00:14:

I don't think he should get the point, but the word should definitely be his.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 00:23:

woo hoo


another day in paradise




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P

Your favorite guess, right back at you, sir.
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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 00:26:

E
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Posted by snoopy369 on 06-01-2006 00:37:

I think he should get the point, as he correctly guessed the word. Not giving him a point would penalize him for Jaguar's misupdating, which is hardly the point.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 00:41:

Tx Snoop


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p,e

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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by snoopy369
I think he should get the point, as he correctly guessed the word. Not giving him a point would penalize him for Jaguar's misupdating, which is hardly the point.


That would penalise me for thinking of words that fit the misupdate instead of guessing yappy.

The precedent on this is clear: no point, but word to Paddy.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 00:49:

is that a listed precedent?
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Let me call my lawyer, he has all the court documents on him.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 00:59:

ok, I off to the pub for my grub... back in an hour or so
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Posted by DrSpike on 06-01-2006 02:28:

Sorry Paddy but I have to agree with Joncha on the point. I think the fact you have the word is compensation though.
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Posted by Nikolai on 06-01-2006 02:39:

Give Paddy the point.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 04:06:

where are all the guesses???


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A
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T
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Posted by snoopy369 on 06-01-2006 12:16:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha


That would penalise me for thinking of words that fit the misupdate instead of guessing yappy.

The precedent on this is clear: no point, but word to Paddy.


Had it been an earlier update, sure. But Paddy guessed four minutes after the misupdate.
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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 12:35:

I was online when the update came. I saw it and started thinking about what letter would fit the misupdate. If he had updated properly, I would have guessed the word immediately. He didn't.

If Jaguar had pointed out his mistake before Paddy's guess, that would have been different, I suppose.
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Posted by duke o' york on 06-01-2006 13:09:

It's a single point! Who cares?

Sure, if Paddy now goes on to have 80 unguessed words, then it may be a problem, but for the time being, give him the point!
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 19:28:

hahaha - as if it matters

but the point is mine - thank you for all of your concern...

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p,e,a,t

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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 23:10:

Y
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H
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 06-01-2006 23:21:

_ _ _ _ _


p,e,a,t,o,y


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H


If morons like joncha didn't keep pre-empting my good guesses with stupid guesses, we'd be doing a lot better.
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Posted by joncha on 06-01-2006 23:26:

I think the word is OOOOH and Paddy just misupdated.
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I wish YARRR could be a hangman word.
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C
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 07-01-2006 02:51:

_ _ _ _ _


p,e,a,t,o,y,h,c


10 - 8 = 2
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I
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 07-01-2006 05:16:

_ _ i _ _


p,e,a,t,o,y,h,c


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R
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L


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Wait your turn, sir.
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Oops, sorry....haven't played for a while and forgot the rules. My bad
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3 more hours
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 05:40:

Not anymore... The word is free then?
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 05:50:

If so, here's a new word:

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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 06:06:

Sounds fair to me.

E
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I
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
12 letters
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IE
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Posted by fishsticks on 08-01-2006 06:22:

O
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A
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 10:08:

_ _A _ _ O _ _ A _ _ _
12 letters
8 guesses left
IE

Lucky bastards. Not that I in any event has the slightest chance to win over your expertice...
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N
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 10:21:

fractography
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 10:51:

Let's see... I must update now, with both the word guess and the letter, mustn't I? If not, this will become a freebee I guess... BTW, an awfully early word guess Spikie...

_ _A _ _ O _ _ A _ _ _
12 letters
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IEN, fractography
Out: DrSpike
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R
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Posted by snoopy369 on 08-01-2006 11:25:

You are correct, Nikolai.

T
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 12:17:

I don't see any other words.
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 12:26:

Dictionary.com does.
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 12:40:

Hope it isn't slang.
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Posted by joncha on 08-01-2006 13:13:

The only word I can think of is CHALCOGRAPHY.
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 13:36:

Well if it's that I would never have got it.
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 13:58:

CHARTOGRAPHY

works too
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 14:28:

Are you guys making up words?
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 14:46:

no my word means the study of charts !!
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 14:48:

CHALCOGRAPHY

\Chal*cog"ra*phy\, n. [Gr. chalko`s copper, brass + -graphy.] The act or art of engraving on copper or brass, especially of engraving for printing.
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 14:48:

Joncha's sounds more like a real world.
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 14:48:

chartography

Chartographer \Char*tog"ra*pher\, n., Chartographic\Char`to*graph"ic\, a., Chartography \Char*tog"ra*phy\, n., etc. Same as Cartographer, Cartographic, Cartography, etc.
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 14:50:

Although I just checked and yours is too. Who said Hangman wasn't educational?
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 14:50:

Nice crossposts.
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Posted by joncha on 08-01-2006 15:55:

I wonder if spamtography is on dictionary.com.
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 15:58:

Was that a guess Ras? In the mean time, here's an update up to joncha's guess:

_ _A _ _ O _ _ A _ _ _
12 letters
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IEN, fractography, CHALCOGRAPHY
Out: DrSpike, joncha
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike
Hope it isn't slang.


Dictionary.com does not say so at least.
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 08-01-2006 16:03:

Does that mean the word has neither an R nor a T??

/me

(by the way, I think both Joncha and DrSpike made greedy guesses, but at least we know neither of them will win this word, and they would both probably respond with "I didn't think there were any other choices" ).
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 16:06:

Sorry, I'm tired(it's 01.05 here right now...), I missed the letter guesses. Here's the proper update:

_ _A _ _ O _ _ A _T _
12 letters
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IENR, fractography, CHALCOGRAPHY
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Posted by joncha on 08-01-2006 16:20:

I can't see anything that fits (are you sure there isn't an i in there?).

The guesses by Spike and myself were not greedy, btw, because there were very few guesses that could fit.
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Posted by Nikolai on 08-01-2006 16:22:

No i. Well, I'm going to bed now, see you tomorrow with hopefully some new guesses.
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Posted by DrSpike on 08-01-2006 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha
I can't see anything that fits (are you sure there isn't an i in there?).

The guesses by Spike and myself were not greedy, btw, because there were very few guesses that could fit.


Agreed on both points.
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 08-01-2006 16:43:

L

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Posted by Jaguar on 08-01-2006 16:44:

s
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 17:34:

i cant see anything either... not without an I or E in it....
I was thinking ..

Elastoplasts or Cranioplasty


but hmmmmmmm

This should be interesting....
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Nikolai
Was that a guess Ras? In the mean time, here's an update up to joncha's guess:

_ _A _ _ O _ _ A _ _ _
12 letters
5 guesses left
IEN, fractography, CHALCOGRAPHY
Out: DrSpike, joncha


no it wasnt i was jsut showing anothre option....

i would bold a word if it was a guess..
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 17:43:

in sheer desperation of a Guess


phalloplasty


if it is right then it a very funny thing

phal·lo·plas·ty (fl-plst)
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Reparative or plastic surgery of the penis.
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 08-01-2006 20:23:

ouch
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 20:26:

maybe he has jst had some so that why he knows the word !!!
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Posted by snoopy369 on 08-01-2006 22:54:

I'd be more clear on what's a guess and what's not, perhaps with "this is not a guess" I'd probably have counted your capitalized word as a guess... 'suggesting' words is in the scheme of things not something to be taken account of - you shouldn't really do it anyway, just guess the word if you believe in it - so, to me, anything that looks like a guess, is.
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Posted by Rasputin on 08-01-2006 23:26:

ooops sorry forgot everyone here takes this seriously ...



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Posted by Nikolai on 09-01-2006 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
in sheer desperation of a Guess


phalloplasty


if it is right then it a very funny thing

phal·lo·plas·ty (fl-plst)
n.

Reparative or plastic surgery of the penis.


Over to you. Great job guessing it btw, even the Great Ones didn't manage that this time.
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Posted by Nikolai on 09-01-2006 01:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
ouch


Indeed.
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Posted by DrSpike on 09-01-2006 03:07:

Never heard of it. Clearly my knowledge of penile reconstructive surgery needs a boost.
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Posted by DrSpike on 09-01-2006 03:09:

quote:
Originally posted by snoopy369
I'd be more clear on what's a guess and what's not, perhaps with "this is not a guess" I'd probably have counted your capitalized word as a guess... 'suggesting' words is in the scheme of things not something to be taken account of - you shouldn't really do it anyway, just guess the word if you believe in it - so, to me, anything that looks like a guess, is.


Well he did indicate he realised that I and E had gone before posting those words with I and E in them, that had perhaps earlier crossed his mind.
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Posted by Nikolai on 09-01-2006 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike
Never heard of it. Clearly my knowledge of penile reconstructive surgery needs a boost.


Indeed, "doc".
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Posted by DrSpike on 09-01-2006 03:41:

I am a doctor of economics, not plastic surgery.
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Posted by Nikolai on 09-01-2006 03:42:

Doesn't matter. You ought to know such trivialities as this.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 09-01-2006 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike


Well he did indicate he realised that I and E had gone before posting those words with I and E in them, that had perhaps earlier crossed his mind.


Vowels ... we don't need no stinkin' vowels!
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Posted by DrSpike on 09-01-2006 05:39:

The point was it was pretty clear the words he posted weren't guesses.
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Posted by joncha on 10-01-2006 03:35:

It looks like the floor is open again.
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Posted by Nikolai on 10-01-2006 03:38:

Indeed...
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Posted by Nikolai on 10-01-2006 03:43:

Let's try again.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Posted by joncha on 10-01-2006 03:47:

A
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E
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Posted by Nikolai on 10-01-2006 06:20:

You are lucky with the word I chose for you, not that I wanted you to be unlucky, it's not to hold the word in itself that is fun after all, but the game as a whole. So, here's for you lucky guys:

_ _ E A _ _ A _
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Posted by civman2000 on 10-01-2006 06:37:

L
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T
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Posted by Nikolai on 10-01-2006 07:44:

_ _ E A _ _ A L
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T
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R
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Posted by DrSpike on 10-01-2006 08:00:

preaxial
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Posted by DrSpike on 10-01-2006 14:05:

Woohoo.

_ _ _ _ _
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Posted by joncha on 10-01-2006 14:10:

O
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Y
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Posted by Rasputin on 10-01-2006 14:36:

damn i get busy at work for one day and i miss my turn .....

oh well.....

Wheres the update...
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 10-01-2006 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
damn i get busy at work for one day and i miss my turn .....

oh well.....

Wheres the update...


happens around here mate
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Posted by DrSpike on 11-01-2006 12:31:

_ _ _ _ Y

Used: O

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Posted by Nikolai on 11-01-2006 12:59:

S
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Posted by fishsticks on 11-01-2006 13:02:

I
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_ I _ _ Y

Used: o s

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N
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Posted by Rasputin on 11-01-2006 15:36:

V for the wise
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Posted by DrSpike on 12-01-2006 13:14:

_ I _ _ Y

Used: o s v n

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Posted by joncha on 12-01-2006 13:20:

D
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Posted by Japher on 12-01-2006 13:32:

L
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Posted by Rasputin on 12-01-2006 16:39:

im bored so Zippy
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 12-01-2006 16:43:

another update coming your way... in the next 18 hours

he is a busy man our Doc
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Posted by Rasputin on 12-01-2006 17:39:

takes all the fun out of the game with no regular updates.

he obviosuly busy planning his next mafia kill
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Posted by joncha on 12-01-2006 21:14:

Hasty guessing will only hand the word back to him again.
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Posted by Rasputin on 12-01-2006 21:41:

and as i dont care who posts the word, i think it is irrelevant if he posts again.


he isnot cleverer than others if he posts aword that is failed to be guessed , nor is the person who guesses the word clever.

the game is for fun...

and as such it is fun to guess words...
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Posted by joncha on 12-01-2006 21:56:

You just finished complaining that he takes too long. I merely pointed out that a potential drawback of your early word guess was to give him a new word to take too long on. But I guess you just like complaining.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 12-01-2006 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha
You just finished complaining that he takes too long. I merely pointed out that a potential drawback of your early word guess was to give him a new word to take too long on. But I guess you just like complaining.


You have figured Ras out perfectly. However did you manage that ...
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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 13-01-2006 06:03:

bugger, all these posts may have scared ol' doc away again...
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Posted by DrSpike on 13-01-2006 11:33:

_ I _ _ Y

Used: o s v n d L + zippy

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Posted by joncha on 13-01-2006 11:43:

With the word guess I'm assuming I can guess a letter again, so P.
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Posted by DrSpike on 13-01-2006 12:03:

I'm not sure you can - you would be guessing in two consecutive sets of guesses. Someone else definitely eligible could guess P now before there is another guess and then we wouldn't have to discuss it.
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Posted by fishsticks on 13-01-2006 12:08:

I agree with DrSpike, based on my reading of the rules. I'm guessing F.
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Posted by Jaguar on 13-01-2006 12:12:

Fine, I'll guess P
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Posted by joncha on 13-01-2006 12:13:

Well I count the letters and the word as seperate sets of guesses, but the rules are definitely ambiguous on that.
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G
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Posted by Jaguar on 13-01-2006 12:16:

we only have 3 letter guesses already outstanding, good sir.
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Posted by duke o' york on 13-01-2006 12:26:

I'm trying to play Ogame at the same time, so once I've loaded the page, then I won't necessarily post straight after, and they can jump in and post before me.
Still, it gets me a +0.
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Posted by Ljube on 13-01-2006 18:25:

quote:
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Well I count the letters and the word as seperate sets of guesses, but the rules are definitely ambiguous on that.


I think set of guesses should be defined as all guesses between two consecutive updates.


Posted by snoopy369 on 13-01-2006 20:02:

I think in the past we've consistently interpreted that rule to indicate that any two updates (including the update for your letter guess) validate your letter guess.
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Posted by DrSpike on 14-01-2006 03:02:

_ I _ _ Y

Used: o s v n d L p f + zippy

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Posted by Paddy the Scot on 14-01-2006 04:35:

g
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Posted by DrSpike on 14-01-2006 04:40:

The word was witty
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Posted by civman2000 on 14-01-2006 04:48:

Y

(were there any nonslang words with G?)
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E
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Posted by Ljube on 14-01-2006 06:04:

quote:
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I think in the past we've consistently interpreted that rule to indicate that any two updates (including the update for your letter guess) validate your letter guess.



Yes, which is equivalent to what I posted.


Posted by DrSpike on 14-01-2006 09:44:

_ _ _ _ _

Used: e y

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Posted by snoopy369 on 14-01-2006 10:17:

O
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Posted by Jaguar on 14-01-2006 11:18:

H
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Posted by DrSpike on 14-01-2006 15:56:

_ _ _ _ H

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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 14-01-2006 18:10:

T

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I
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Posted by DrSpike on 15-01-2006 06:37:

_ I T _ H

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 15-01-2006 07:26:

PITCH
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Posted by fishsticks on 15-01-2006 08:57:

ditch

Editing merely to bold it.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 15-01-2006 10:32:

Editing to bold is still editing

B followed by ITCH

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Posted by duke o' york on 15-01-2006 11:45:

Ah hell, since everyone else is getting in on this, then:

aitch
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Posted by joncha on 15-01-2006 12:52:

witch
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Posted by civman2000 on 15-01-2006 13:22:

FITCH

(6 outstanding word guesses! I don't think there are any more possibilities though...)
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Posted by joncha on 15-01-2006 13:23:

That was the only other one I could see.
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 15-01-2006 13:29:

It seems that Ditch is still possible (by the new rules)until fishsticks or someone else (re)posts it.

Though I still think it is a ridiculous rule

Edit: To unbold it j/k

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Posted by joncha on 15-01-2006 13:39:

Good point (about it still being possible, not about the rule being ridiculous).

Jamsticks has to repost it for his guess to be valid. Anyone else (other than the five of us who already have a word guess pending) is free to jump in and steal his guess from him.
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Posted by Rasputin on 15-01-2006 13:41:

ditch


jsut for the +1
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Posted by DrSpike on 15-01-2006 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Aqualung71
PITCH


Ironically, the first of the many guesses was the correct one.
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Posted by Ljube on 15-01-2006 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike


Well maybe. Say there are 2 possibilities. If person A posts after 5 seconds, and person B after 6 seconds with the same guess, person B to make a new post under this interpretation of the rules. They have to wait 30 seconds (unless plussies) for this privilege. 29 seconds later someone else (person c!) posts the guess they were going to make and beats them, despite the fact they were 29 seconds slower.

I'd say person B has a right to feel aggrieved. If he had edited he was not doing so to get an advantage - he would just be trying to get his 50/50 chance at the word.



I'd say life is a b_itch.


Posted by fishsticks on 15-01-2006 19:52:

Well that makes me feel less bad, and just as stupid. Especiall since if I hadn't said I had edited it, would there have been any way to tell?
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Posted by Ljube on 15-01-2006 19:58:

Just repost your guess next time.


Posted by Ljube on 15-01-2006 19:59:

Hey, why don't you join Galactic Overlord?


Posted by Sparrowhawk on 15-01-2006 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by fishsticks
Well that makes me feel less bad, and just as stupid. Especiall since if I hadn't said I had edited it, would there have been any way to tell?


No unless someone had noticed it before you edited it.

And I agree with you, it wouldn't have made a difference if you had just edited it but those are the rules

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 16-01-2006 06:50:

Hey, I got one!!!! First ever

Ok, be gentle on me guys......



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Posted by snoopy369 on 16-01-2006 08:41:

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Posted by snoopy369 on 16-01-2006 08:42:

quote:
Originally posted by fishsticks
Well that makes me feel less bad, and just as stupid. Especiall since if I hadn't said I had edited it, would there have been any way to tell?


You don't have to bold it, in any event.
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Posted by fishsticks on 16-01-2006 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by snoopy369

You don't have to bold it, in any event.


I figured following the discussion on phalloplasty, I figured it was proper to do so with word guesses to distinguish them from idle chatter. (Though I suppose the one-word post is kinda obvious)

quote:
Originally posted by Ljube
Hey, why don't you join Galactic Overlord?


It looks complicated as hell. Possibly later.
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Posted by Ljube on 16-01-2006 16:02:

It's actually pretty simple. But OK, perhaps it's best to lurk for a while and then join.


Posted by snoopy369 on 16-01-2006 17:58:

Bolding is better, but not a rule; if you are making an obvious guess, then it is a guess. Any post that is only a word is by definition a guess.
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Posted by Aqualung71 on 17-01-2006 04:42:

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 17-01-2006 05:49:

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Posted by fishsticks on 17-01-2006 07:36:

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Posted by joncha on 17-01-2006 10:16:

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 18-01-2006 04:13:

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Posted by Nikolai on 18-01-2006 04:20:

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Posted by Japher on 18-01-2006 07:38:

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 18-01-2006 08:11:

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Come on guys, not too hard now
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 08:30:

Sadly, the only words that I can see fitting all end in S. Looks like an invalid word to me.
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Posted by Ljube on 18-01-2006 08:41:

Let's see.

S


Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 08:46:

Ok, then. W for the update.
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Posted by Nikolai on 18-01-2006 08:53:

quote:
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Sadly, the only words that I can see fitting all end in S. Looks like an invalid word to me.


If it's not a plural, it's valid. Sure there's no word with an S and at the same time not being plural?
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 08:55:

The current rule has nothing to do with the word being plural or not. We have already had words disallowed on this point.

quote:
9. Words must be 5 or more letters. If the word is exactly 5 letters and the last letter is S, the first four letters must not make a standard english word.

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Posted by Nikolai on 18-01-2006 09:03:

Okay. But I remember some discussion on this subject aons ago, and then I understood the consensus as not allowing plural words. That might have been me misunderstanding or just remembering wrong though. Or could it be that the rule is poorly worded? Anyway, we're just an update from knowing, and potentially get a new and interesting rule discussion then.
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 09:10:

No, the fix was intentional, because other verb forms (you walk, he walks) were seen as being equivalent to 5-letter plurals.
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Posted by DrSpike on 18-01-2006 10:26:

I can only see invalid words too.

If it is then the word resets to a random party, by precedent one other than myself or Joncha.
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 10:38:

Agreed.
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Posted by Japher on 18-01-2006 11:22:

Maybe it's a Jon Miller word?

Barnk?
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 11:23:

MEGAJARS!!
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Posted by Japher on 18-01-2006 11:40:

OMFG! You are so smart!
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Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 14:34:

I found an old archaic Scottish word Harns

the first four letters are not a word so this word coudl be valid.

as long as acrchaiec words still used.


oh by the way it means brains
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Posted by duke o' york on 18-01-2006 14:41:

Brilliant Ras.
I've learned a word from this game at last!
Doubt it's reached Perth yet though.
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Posted by DrSpike on 18-01-2006 14:57:

Found is not good.

'tis a new one on me though.
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 15:03:

I think it would be a valid word, but you're supposed to know it, not find it.
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Posted by Ljube on 18-01-2006 15:31:

Anyway, we're out of guesses now so all we can do is wait for an update.


Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 16:00:

or just start a new one !
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Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 16:02:

i doubt anyone would know all the words on the list...

i am just open and honest about my findings without having t ohide behind a banner of deciet....
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Posted by Ljube on 18-01-2006 16:11:

It's almost early morning in Perth, so Aqua shouldn't take too long to update. Let's wait an hour or so more.


Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 16:13:

8:15 AM in perth....

ahh my old home town
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Posted by joncha on 18-01-2006 16:16:

Relax, guys. He still has 16 hours.
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Posted by Enigma_Nova on 18-01-2006 18:14:

This is why Hangman should be IRC-based.
Of course, then you wouldn't get your glorious +1s.


Posted by Sparrowhawk on 18-01-2006 18:24:

These threads are now going to be deleted so no one gets a meaningful +1 anymore anyway

(which strangely enough makes me more willing to post)

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Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 18:28:

me too -1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Ljube on 18-01-2006 19:39:

me too -2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Rasputin on 18-01-2006 20:00:

oh well i better pop over to MP section...

i got my home computer fix4ed so bout time i played a game...
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Posted by Aqualung71 on 19-01-2006 05:08:

Wow guys, didn't know I would generate so much controversy on my first word Patience is a virtue you know....some of us get up, go to work, and only get to settle down to a bit of hangman at 9pm

Yes joncha, it ends in S but the first 4 letters don't form an English word.

Now, I wonder if Ras is waiting nearby ready to pounce


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Posted by civman2000 on 19-01-2006 05:21:

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Posted by Ljube on 19-01-2006 05:30:

Aqua, Raz already made a word guess HARNS.

This word guess must be counted.


Posted by Aqualung71 on 19-01-2006 05:45:

Well one way or the other, BINGO!!!!! Harns was the word....it means "brains".

On the basis that I can't be bothered going back to read the rules, and that all you guys are much more experienced at this game than I am.....would someone please tell me whether the correct guesser was:

1. Rasputin as the first word guesser.....though his guess was after 2 valid letter guesses and before an update, or

2. Civman, who correclty guessed the final letter H immediately after an update.

Either way, good guessing

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Posted by Ljube on 19-01-2006 06:00:

Raz is the winner.


Posted by Japher on 19-01-2006 06:39:

Megajars was better... Harns? Seriously now.
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Posted by DrSpike on 19-01-2006 10:27:

I think we need to establish what the rules are on 'finding' words. Personally I think trawling the dictionary to find bizarre Scottish archaic words doesn't seem right.
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Posted by joncha on 19-01-2006 11:48:

I agree. Point and word to Rasputin. We've always said it was wrong, but we've never actually made it a rule. Any thoughts on the wording?
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Posted by Japher on 19-01-2006 11:55:

I don't think you archaic Scottish word is right, but then I don't play this game enough to really care one way or the other....+!1
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Posted by joncha on 19-01-2006 11:57:

Well, we don't have a rule against archaic or regional words, although I suppose we could.
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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 14:40:

if we allwo archaic words we must allow Trawling too....
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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha
I agree. Point and word to Rasputin. We've always said it was wrong, but we've never actually made it a rule. Any thoughts on the wording?


any tohughts on how you will police this rule???

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Posted by joncha on 19-01-2006 15:01:

There is no way to enforce it, which is why it has always been a point of honour and not a rule.

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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 15:08:

honour amongst thieves !!!
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Posted by DrSpike on 19-01-2006 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
if we allwo archaic words we must allow Trawling too....


Maybe disallow both.
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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 15:32:

yep lets ban honesty....


makem people lie about how they knew the words
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Posted by joncha on 19-01-2006 15:38:



In the past, people have taken themselves out of the game after they felt the need check the dictionary.
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Posted by fishsticks on 19-01-2006 15:38:

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Posted by Ljube on 19-01-2006 16:19:

Let's not introduce new rules, particularly rules that would limit the number of valid words or rules that are impossible to enforce. Any rule added to the game equals to a degree of fun subtracted from it.


Posted by Chaunk on 19-01-2006 17:06:

As I'm dyslexic, I check every word I post on dictionary.com for spelling. I don't think I've ever been trawling, but I'm definatly not going to stop using the dictionary for my words.

Guessing OTOH, I wouldn't use the dictionary. That just seems wrong to me.
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Posted by joncha on 19-01-2006 17:14:

Yes, what you describe is very different from trawling, IMO.

Trawling is having no clue what the word is, and just flipping through the dictionary until you find one that fits. There's no way we can prevent someone from doing it, but I think it should be actively discouraged.
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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 19:40:

Why ??? What is the point of hangman if not to increas epeoples Vocabulary ?
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Posted by Rasputin on 19-01-2006 19:42:

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Posted by Ljube on 19-01-2006 20:51:

R


Posted by snoopy369 on 19-01-2006 22:35:

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Posted by Aqualung71 on 20-01-2006 06:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike
I think we need to establish what the rules are on 'finding' words. Personally I think trawling the dictionary to find bizarre Scottish archaic words doesn't seem right.


Well for what it's worth, I knew the word. Whether or not Rasputin did, I cannot comment

Play on chaps
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Posted by Japher on 20-01-2006 06:31:

quote:
particularly rules that would limit the number of valid words


but all the rules do that

quote:
rules that are impossible to enforce

now you're just be silly, those are the best rules!
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Posted by joncha on 20-01-2006 09:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Aqualung71


Well for what it's worth, I knew the word. Whether or not Rasputin did, I cannot comment

Play on chaps


Don't worry, we weren't questioning your word. It was quite clever, I thought.

Rasputin said he "found" it though, which is frowned upon. The idea is that we are playing each other, not each other's dictionaries and search engines.
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Posted by DrSpike on 20-01-2006 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
yep lets ban honesty....


makem people lie about how they knew the words


That's one possibility. The other is that people don't trawl in the first place.

As has been said, it's always been thought to be against the spirit of the game and people have often declared their process if they didn't guess the word from their own vocabulary alone.
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Posted by DrSpike on 20-01-2006 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
Why ??? What is the point of hangman if not to increas epeoples Vocabulary ?


Well I just increased mine, and I didn't have to trawl to do it.

Many of the words on the list are new to me, and I think I had a decent vocabulary to start with.
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Posted by duke o' york on 20-01-2006 17:04:

Hah!
You were no help with the Grauniad crossword when I was at your house!
A decent vocabulary doesn't help massively in this game. More important is when, and how often, you are there to post guesses.
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Posted by Nikolai on 20-01-2006 18:01:

I can't see that dictionaries can help much for guessing, at least as long as you don't have the first letter(s)? As for wordsetting, the very few times I've been the setter, I've thought of a word in Norwegian and found the English word for it, although also searched for better words during the process. The last word for example, I found by misspelling a word and getting alternatives of what I meant, and then I found the reference inside the page that came up when I picked one of those words. But I take it you mean word guesses here, right?
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Posted by joncha on 20-01-2006 23:16:

It would appear that the floor is open again.
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Posted by Ljube on 20-01-2006 23:50:

Indeed. I'll step up.


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5 letters, 10 guesses remaining.


Posted by joncha on 21-01-2006 00:12:

U
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Posted by fishsticks on 21-01-2006 00:38:

Damn. We were making progress.
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 01:14:

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5 letters, 8 guesses remaining, guessed U, A.


Posted by Paddy the Scot on 21-01-2006 02:02:

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Posted by DrSpike on 21-01-2006 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by duke o' york
Hah!
You were no help with the Grauniad crossword when I was at your house!


What do you mean - it was almost finished when you left.
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Posted by duke o' york on 21-01-2006 05:05:

Eh? I finished it, and with no help from either of the giants of Hangman playing Warcraft 3 (? well, whatever number) at the time.
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 06:31:

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5 letters, 7 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I.


Posted by Aqualung71 on 21-01-2006 07:45:

R
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Posted by Jaguar on 21-01-2006 12:01:

D
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 12:38:

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5 letters, 6 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I, D.


Posted by joncha on 21-01-2006 12:49:

O
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Posted by Nikolai on 21-01-2006 14:00:

T
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 19:40:

_ O _ E R


5 letters, 5 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I, D, T.


Posted by Paddy the Scot on 21-01-2006 19:45:

R
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 19:48:

R was already guessed and is in. Try another letter.


Posted by Paddy the Scot on 21-01-2006 19:55:

P
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Posted by Jaguar on 21-01-2006 20:01:

W
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 20:09:

_ O _ E R


5 letters, 3 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I, D, T, P, W.


Posted by joncha on 21-01-2006 20:26:

V
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Posted by Ljube on 21-01-2006 20:27:

_ O _ E R


5 letters, 2 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I, D, T, P, W, V.


Posted by Jaguar on 21-01-2006 20:30:

B
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Posted by fishsticks on 21-01-2006 21:49:

Umm... we already have an R in our puzzle.

B
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Posted by fishsticks on 21-01-2006 21:51:

Ok, ignore that last post of mine (a) because I didn't see we'd moved to the next page, (b) because Jaguar had already posted that guess, (c) because I'm an idiot.
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Posted by joncha on 21-01-2006 22:42:

Silly Jamski.
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Posted by Ljube on 22-01-2006 05:29:

B O _ E R


5 letters, 2 guesses remaining, guessed U, A, I, D, T, P, W, V.


Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 05:41:

X
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Posted by Ljube on 22-01-2006 05:49:

Yes, boxer it is.


Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 06:00:

Good, because I was tempted by N.

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Posted by Nikolai on 22-01-2006 06:08:

Y
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Posted by civman2000 on 22-01-2006 06:09:

I
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Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 06:17:

_ _ Y _ _

I

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Posted by Ljube on 22-01-2006 06:20:

R


Posted by Paddy the Scot on 22-01-2006 07:10:

p
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Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 12:39:

_ R Y _ _

PI

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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 12:43:

TRYST
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Posted by Sparrowhawk on 22-01-2006 12:49:

T

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Posted by Jaguar on 22-01-2006 12:50:

DRYAD
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Posted by Nikolai on 22-01-2006 12:53:

Isn't it a bit early guessing words?
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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 12:56:

Can you see any other words that fit?
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Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 12:56:

_ R Y _ _

PIT, dryad, tryst

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Posted by Nikolai on 22-01-2006 12:58:

quote:
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Can you see any other words that fit?


No, not without checking the dictionary at least, but still I wouldn't start guessing with only two letters guessed. And besides...*points at update*
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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 12:58:

MEGAJARS!
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Posted by snoopy369 on 22-01-2006 12:59:

aryan
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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Nikolai


No, not without checking the dictionary at least, but still I wouldn't start guessing with only two letters guessed. And besides...*points at update*


The only other valid words I know of that fit have another Y or R in them. Now that I'm safely eliminated, however, I shall start trawling for other possibilities.
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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 13:00:

Aryan is a proper noun.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 22-01-2006 13:03:

Actually, no. Check dictionary.com, which i did after guessing it. It's listed in lower-case as well as upper case (and specifically deviated between the two).
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Posted by snoopy369 on 22-01-2006 13:03:

By deviated i mean differentiated, btw.
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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 13:04:

That's cheap. It's listed as a "synonym" of Aryan.
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Posted by snoopy369 on 22-01-2006 13:07:

I only made the guess, I didn't set the word I'm sort of up in the air as to whether it aught to be a nonproper noun or not ... "black" is sometimes uncapitalized also, as is "white", which are not particularly different in usage (and i mean when used to describe race) in the modern day, but i'm not sure if that's just a mistake being propogated into the modern lingua franca or not.
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Posted by Rasputin on 22-01-2006 13:51:

quote:
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Don't worry, we weren't questioning your word. It was quite clever, I thought.

Rasputin said he "found" it though, which is frowned upon. The idea is that we are playing each other, not each other's dictionaries and search engines.


well as with all things internet , i dont trust anyone to abide by a rule that i cant see him forced to abide by, you only have to look at how many cheats (loopholes) people use in civilisation MP games to see that internet gaming is not to be trusted.

But if the rules is that you cannot say " Found" then i will refrain from posting the truth ever again.

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Posted by Rasputin on 22-01-2006 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by joncha


The only other valid words I know of that fit have another Y or R in them. Now that I'm safely eliminated, however, I shall start trawling for other possibilities.


yeah yeah,,,, !!
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Posted by civman2000 on 22-01-2006 14:00:

Dictionary search revealed no possible words...
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Posted by Rasputin on 22-01-2006 14:42:

fryer
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Posted by civman2000 on 22-01-2006 14:47:

R has already been guessed.
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Posted by DrSpike on 22-01-2006 15:07:

It's clearly aryan, which is indeed allowable, in exactly the same way as american would be allowed.
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Posted by Rasputin on 22-01-2006 15:53:

silly me
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Posted by Rasputin on 22-01-2006 15:55:

American should be spelt with a capital.
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Posted by DrSpike on 22-01-2006 16:02:

Not necessarily.
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Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 22:48:

_ R Y _ _

PIT, aryan, dryad, fryer, tryst

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Posted by joncha on 22-01-2006 22:56:

Fryer can't fit, so it should not be counted as a guess.

I'm very interested to see what word you think you have here, duke. I hope it's on dictionary.com.
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Posted by duke o' york on 22-01-2006 23:26:

It is - I checked beforehand.
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Posted by DrSpike on 23-01-2006 00:20:

oryal


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Posted by joncha on 23-01-2006 02:43:

I hope that smiley doesn't mean you went trolling for that word...
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