Session Start: Thu Aug 28 20:12:35 2003 Session Ident: #gow_cofa [20:12] * Now talking in #gow_cofa [20:12] hello! [20:12] Yozu ar sure it is 20? [20:12] <[ND]Zayxus> hello, now we are of 3 nations [20:13] :) [20:13] We pillaget the tile we could reach. [20:13] and first of all - apologies for that stupid research oversight, one more time [20:14] we think it is a lot [20:14] ah vondrack, dont worry about that anymore! [20:14] I do :( [20:14] apology accepted [20:15] i almost did the same sting, i had to replay to put our sider to 100% gold:), THAT would have been a disaster [20:15] Aggie you pay 35g/t to Lego we already did that too and I think I've even hit the accept button ;) [20:15] hehe, sounds good [20:15] LoL [20:15] great [20:15] at least, we have gold enough to finish our horse upgrades now [20:15] i was hoping for +80ggpt net, this even gives 2 or 2 extra:) [20:16] first three caravels already have their cargo ready [20:16] excellent [20:16] the first caravel is now W-NW-NW of Bonigo [20:16] the second one gets will get upgraded this turn [20:17] the thrid one shall be finished on the next turn in Zargonia [20:17] *third [20:17] We saw Galleyleo Galleylei [20:17] that's 9 knights (1 elite and 8 vets) [20:17] yep - that's the first one [20:17] our first-born :) [20:17] that would make a huge difference. [20:18] but - I shall warn you, it will take some time to get over the Big Pool [20:18] * Darekill sets mode: +k geheim [20:18] * Darekill sets mode: +ooo Aggiegow vondrack [ND]Zayxus [20:18] thats quite alright [20:18] especially the galley being upgraded over at Kloreepville [20:18] We are secure now ;) [20:18] sets sail from the other coast [20:18] ok, glad to hear that [20:18] Password is geheim [20:19] how's the situation? (sorry to ask about something you have apparently already discussed) [20:19] we also are in good shape [20:19] great [20:19] we have started the horse rush [20:20] I can see GS returned New Madrid to RPers... [20:20] I haven't expected that [20:22] Yes they did. I was surprised to maybe they wantet to ensure there is no sudden death. [20:22] its a surprsise but i see little change there, except GS has to pay less for troops of rp [20:22] ok, well... most of what I would tell you today was already in the PM I sent recently... so if you have any questions, just ask - and if not, I will just listen (or may leave, if you wish) [20:23] we are 2 turns for Leo's and will smiotch next turn [20:23] oh you don't need to leave I guess [20:23] ok :) [20:23] your one of the"evil ones now":) [20:23] LoL! [20:23] but only you know... [20:24] I wonder what's going to happen when GS finds out... [20:24] if we get avatars back I'll do the sauron one [20:24] Well I was told ND was lawful neutral mind you ? [20:24] though - the public forum is calming down... finally! [20:24] by that time they'll be facing 50+ nd/Gow riders/Knights. We are just plain evil i guess:) [20:25] plain evil, yeah, that's it! :b: [20:26] we were debating the possible atck on pamploma too. [20:26] hmmm... that'll be a tough nut, I guess [20:26] <[ND]Zayxus> may be [20:27] we were wondering about a screenshot in our forum [20:27] ? [20:28] the other option is wait till our big armies arrive and launch a broader offesnive [20:28] thats the main line of debate [20:28] do you have any cats to soften them up? [20:28] We hav two Catapults on the way to Pamplona. [20:29] two 2 zwei No more :( [20:29] :( [20:29] But soon a third will be there ;) [20:29] hm... you will need a lot more... cats suck vs. cities [20:29] and maybe some more but I'm eager to send in the BASF! [20:29] LoL [20:30] we have none. my worrya nd the big woory on our forum is that if we fail or even serious weaken our southern forces the 12 knights we know about could sweep down with the rest of GS's horde [20:30] It's not my style to sit on a mountain and watch the enemy turn after turn. [20:31] Yes I know that is exactly the point that makes me sit on that mountain. [20:31] so - GS has 12 knights in the area? [20:31] i understand. But we will have aprox 30 riders down by 310 and together we could attack GS and take all the coast cities. Then pamploma can be taken [20:31] yap that was from our pass through [20:31] If GS storms the plains after we are beaten up after battering the walls of Pamplona we are... lost? [20:32] yap, and i bet they have reapird the roads we destoyed [20:32] well - silly question, maybe... what do you gain by destroying/conquering Pamplona? [20:33] So maybe another Trick could do... [20:33] What if GoW gifts us Alamo..... [20:33] You empty the City up to one Horse. [20:34] We hurry through the City direction Barcelona or New Madrid. [20:34] Dash throug the middle of the fray and cause destruction and losses on the way. [20:34] Just a thought... [20:35] that actually is a good plan. [20:35] There would be only our Ansr on the Way. [20:35] actually with the road now done you can move s. that way [20:36] our slow troops fall behind too defend the borders. [20:36] GoW Riders counteratack the GS if they come to attack the citys? [20:36] also i was consider that when we have 20 troops in the south we attck that mountain [20:37] with a 10 riders stack(the mountain n,ne of pamplome. That would cut the road to gs teritroy and allow us to safelt leave alamo along [20:37] if it was only to show the GS that they are vulnerable too... [20:38] good idea. Well send a rider first too, to scout then hell get out of the way and you attack [20:38] actually we could coordinate these attck at the same time [20:39] let me see something on the map, brb [20:39] I'll have Sir Leif to make a plan. [20:39] He is a great player. Much better than I am and he has usualy a lot of good ideas. [20:42] you seem darn good too [20:42] Everyone is studying the cards ;) [20:42] yap [20:43] also are those workers making a road, on the jungle near our rider [20:44] In two turns we'd have eleven Kavalry ready for the task. They can move to the Goldhill in the South of Pamplona. [20:44] Withaout changing the City. [20:45] With these Stack we could probably breack throgh to Barcelona. [20:45] Cuting of the Harbor of spain... [20:46] could your slow units do a huge favor for us, the can move to that forest se of pamploma and then pillage the road. that would free up ALL forces from Alamo the strike [20:46] But then we would need to be sure that there are GoW Riders to Protect us against an GS attack. [20:46] right now we need to hold troops thre to defedn it, with that road gone it is safe [20:47] with that road cut we cna use forces from Alamo [20:48] Next turn we can move the whole Stack on the Mountain one Tile SE [20:48] Then we stand in the north of Alamo [20:49] You can gift it to us the next turn and we can defend it. easy. [20:49] the other alternative is to use a rider and cut that road, the rider dies but it might be easier [20:50] It does not have to die if you move it now on a mountain. [20:50] the problem is thatif we move out the city is vulnerable toa counterattack and if we stay the troops get sent home. [20:50] shit forest takes two movementpoints :( [20:51] well the rider use 2 onto the forest and then use 1 to pillage [20:51] but the forst costing 2 is also good since they can't get through there in less than 1 [20:51] They are not vulnerable just move them NE of Fort Löwenmut. [20:52] They can'T reach you there. [20:52] but an attack from pamplomacould take alamo [20:52] They can't see hoe many Riders there are in Alamo. [20:53] And even if they take Alamo they must split there Forces and ar a more easy prey! [20:53] If they can'T see you left Alamo... And they cant see you behind our lines. [20:54] They can'T tell if Alamo is empty. Exept they have Vox to scout or they try the atack but that would be cheating and i doubt they do that. [20:55] But even if they did and would take alamo they still would be forced to defend two citys instead of one. [20:56] <[ND]Zayxus> until now they gave up the cities [20:57] i doubt they would too, I just hate to leave that key location so vulnerable. htough remeber we don't know how may gs knighs are withing ranger of it either [20:58] thats why i so want that moutain(actually it is 2 ne of pamploma, not n,ne of it [20:58] so we can see [20:59] hey i just noticed, you could move your force 1 south onto that hill and by pass alamao compketly [21:00] then maybe the defensive units could go too [21:02] just an idea [21:02] 190 BASF goes south [21:02] 210 the move together s,s,sw [21:02] We need the Defensiv Forces for our citys. [21:03] ok, but we can prety much hold them with our forces, any knight anywhere near will get killed [21:04] Good O.K. pretend we do that. [21:04] regardless of whether defensive units go are not, you can attack(as can we in 230) [21:04] the defensive units end up on the desert(as do forces that attack, and don't advancxe [21:05] with our attack hitting the moutain thast turn GS can't commit to both [21:06] What do we attack? [21:06] Sorry but I have to ask... [21:07] bsorry when i'm in this mode i just rush ahead. You go toward barcelona [21:07] ah there are GS troops. [21:07] Now I get it. [21:07] how many? [21:07] yap, we saw them when we came by(i assume theyt are still there, they haven't come west) [21:08] at that time aboyt 5 pikes + 2knights, but i can give bettr figures next turn since I am moving a rider by there [21:09] or we could strike first , get them to go north then you hit. [21:09] excelent the BASF will move into position if our Parliament aprooves it but I think if we have a good plan, and we have, it will. [21:10] <[ND]Zayxus> 5 Pikes, when might they have Gunpowder for better defense, it is urgent to move on. [21:10] good, like i said it still is a plan but it seems good. I am eager to stike at them [21:10] Just have your riders ready for any counter attacks of GS on our territory. [21:10] they had quite a few pikes [21:10] No you're talking. [21:11] I'm burning to see my Ansar strike. [21:11] It_'s what they are made for. [21:11] will do, like I said by then we will have 10 free riders to swoop down on any other with another 15 coming down the road [21:11] I hate it if they just sit there ideling theyr time. [21:12] We will move only the Ansar. The other forces stay in F.L. [21:13] So they can puzzle where they went... [21:13] <[ND]Zayxus> we could best be finished before time of musketman. [21:13] that good, [21:13] yes we should be, [21:14] there is a rp pike that could see the movement, he is on a mountain. We bettr take him out. Do you have any MI or catapults. he is just s of the road we just built [21:15] If you move with your captured warkers and sir Ghengis this pike could be mince meat soon. [21:17] we will, next turn they have no movemnts this turn [21:17] @ Vondrack we are lucky that we took out a single spanish pike last turn. He would have seen your galley... [21:18] also do you have the workers to rush build a road over the jungle where our rider is. That would cut 2 turns off the movemnt south. [21:18] good so we stay on the mountain for one more turn. [21:18] Then the Ansar move to the desert tile. [21:18] Then we strike. [21:18] sounds perfect [21:19] it's settlet then. [21:22] that means I'll tell my people about it and we poll about it. but i_'m sure we will do it. it's a plan and it's better then wait and wait and ... [21:22] actually we really don't need to kill the pikeman. If the answar move, then wait they will end up out of his range [21:23] but either way, it could give your MI some stuff to do [21:23] <[ND]Zayxus> To wait mens to loose, because later the musketman is to strong in defend. [21:23] i wish ghengis was here so we could have his input(he is the cow) after all. i amjust the lowly emperor [21:24] i agree, and if noithing else we must have barcelona by then, to cut upgrades [21:24] all this makes Gs pay for ALL those troops [21:26] Yes they are just way to arrogant. [21:27] If I recall that glouryous chat right before the war. I still feel very angry. [21:27] also these attacks are such that we can win them and force GS into combat, then when the rest arrive around 310/330 we can hit them before they get reorganized [21:27] That was an iterogation. an Inquisition. It wasn't a chat... [21:28] small wonder I reacted like I did. [21:30] All right. That was yesterday. Today we made plans. and I hope we can take Barcelona. [21:30] i think i was in las vegas when that chat took place [21:30] so i missed it [21:31] ok - I will go then... I am not even going to post this chatlog in our forum, just recap few important points for my people [21:31] see you next week! [21:31] o.k. good bye. [21:31] <[ND]Zayxus> cu [21:31] see you, thanks for coming, [21:32] :) [21:32] bye [21:32] bye Session Close: Thu Aug 28 21:32:11 2003