Start of #civ3dem buffer: Mon Jul 07 01:30:20 2003 [23:04] * Now talking in #civ3dem [23:04] What is this? [23:06] * Arnelos|PlayingCiv3 hears the word revolution and perks up ;p [23:06] OMG! Was the chat supposed to start soon?! [23:06] I thought it was tomorrow! [23:07] arnelos [23:07] Haven't even had time to look at the save yet! [23:07] what DAY did he say it was? [23:07] ARSE [23:07] The poll says now... [23:07] what ya say , we allready know the palace , ...... [23:07] 6 july? [23:07] Yes [23:07] today yes [23:07] at 1100 gmt [23:07] 1000GMT [23:07] but he is minus 7 gmt , uno [23:07] yes true.. I was acutally talking to him last night.. [23:08] chat was supposed to be 1:08 ago [23:08] revolt [23:08] support the DIA [23:08] I'm in the same timezone as Uno :p [23:08] ;) [23:09] yes , but you aint human [23:09] it's frickin middle of the night/morning here [23:09] no, it's just that I stayed up for a party... so I'm still up since the party was HERE, but people finally left about an hour ago [23:09] I've been playing Civ :P [23:10] Have been watching wrestling and playing hockey [23:10] yeah, I've been playing Civ the past hour [23:10] I mean... not much better to do [23:10] :p [23:11] If he's not coming in 5 min. I'm going to sleep [23:12] I'm sure we can carry on without you :p [23:12] :D [23:12] lol [23:14] * UnOrthOdOx has joined #civ3dem [23:14] Hello [23:14] Hey Prez [23:14] Im having obvious difficulties. [23:14] Doesn't worry me - I thought this was tomorrow! [23:14] hi uno [23:15] Do we need to reschedule? [23:15] Was GK already here and gone? [23:15] and MrWIA [23:15] no and no [23:15] Oh, sorry. [23:15] * Dubya_ai_eh is now known as MrWIA [23:16] :D [23:16] sorry [23:16] hey! it's our leader! [23:16] Panag, I assume you are taking this chat for the DM team? [23:17] * MrWIA slaps panag around a bit with a large trout [23:17] President is talking to you... [23:17] haha [23:18] well, there might be a chat afterall :) [23:18] hm....panag? [23:19] Was NM here and gone? [23:19] I wouldn;t know - got here not long ago [23:19] Nuclear Master... [23:19] Someone...? [23:19] yesľ [23:19] was smoking a sigare [23:19] to busy preparing palace take over [23:19] ;) [23:20] uno hears gunfire at the door [23:20] panag storms in [23:20] Are you taking this chat, and are you guys still a team? [23:20] what shall i do [23:20] More like bowstrings at this point... [23:20] vote kill him or excile [23:20] vote one ; excile [23:20] :) [23:20] mz ? [23:21] Fortunately, the uprising disbanded as soon as the imposing figure of President UnOrthOdOx made his appearance [23:21] little early for that :p [23:21] * CiverDan has joined #civ3dem [23:21] hello [23:21] CD! [23:21] kill him or excile civerdan ? [23:21] oh, I forgot.. I'm supposed to be the obnoxious Banana who lost the election... [23:21] how many turns have we played? [23:21] * MasterZen is now known as MrBanana [23:21] none [23:21] ok] [23:21] Would like to know where you got that avatar, UnO... having trouble finding a screen capture with bothPiccolo and Veggy there. [23:22] just exile wil do ;:P [23:22] uno , ........ [23:22] heheheh... [23:22] panag grabs uno and puts him on the first plane no nowhereisstan [23:23] glad thats over [23:23] now , lets find kloreep and godking , ..... [23:23] brb..gonna load the save [23:23] that should be a good story uno [23:24] panag, are you taking NM's place this chat? [23:24] Are you guys still a team [23:24] I got...confusing PM's on that subject. [23:24] still fishing for an answer there, uno? [23:24] huh , follow his orders [23:24] i have no idea what so ever [23:26] * MrWIA hits his head on the table. HARD [23:26] I'm sure we can botch something up as we go along [23:26] Ok...let's go ahead anyway... [23:27] GK has some general orders, so...we'll just quick poll the rest. [23:27] Just a word of warning... as I thought we were going tomorrow (don;t ask me why), I have not looked at the save before now as the FAM. [23:27] NM posted his orders [23:28] So has GK [23:29] ok..i have loaded it [23:29] We all have the save? [23:29] I do [23:29] CD - I may have to enlist your help bigtime... is that OK> [23:29] * MasterZen has joined #civ3dem [23:29] damn ISP [23:29] suer np [23:29] sure [23:29] Thanks [23:30] lets go kick some ass [23:31] do we have a map of the start position? [23:31] there was one around [23:31] Ok, moving around the archers and swords to Hunting Camp per GK's orders [23:32] panag - which thread? The "F11 ..." one? [23:32] we should move on gnome btw , sooner or later [23:32] bfm , no , some posted that before [23:33] looking for it right now , allready on the second forum page , cant see it [23:33] F11 has a small map [23:33] map of territory , zoom out is great [23:33] I haven't got the game open, unfortunately [23:33] thanks uno [23:33] settler stack should build a city this turn [23:34] its a great spot [23:34] Yes...no orders on the settler stack, quickpoll locaion, please. [23:34] its allready aproved in a poll [23:35] It was? [23:35] * MrBanana has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [23:35] yes [23:35] Link, panag? [23:35] wait [23:35] please link to a map of the area [23:36] one questiion on moving the swords...the one in Larvik has to stay there fro now [23:36] for [23:36] there was talk and a poll about this spot weeks ago [23:36] Can you give us the link, panag? I have been doing the directory for ages and I don;t remember it. [23:37] looking for itľ [23:37] i rememeber i posted saying that them hills where a great line of defense , that desert probably oil or so , that wheat and fish nearby [23:38] it was on a screenshot with dots in color [23:38] bfm ; have you seen maps of the world allready ? [23:39] just the one Uno has posted [23:39] only our area [23:39] let me search for the poll, if I can't find it, Ill post a screenie. [23:39] put uno's maps from the dm thread there also [23:39] panag - you are looking for: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre ad.php?s=&threadid=90115 [23:40] "On the coast - the desert tile - next to the wheat" - 11 votes [23:40] page loading , ......... [23:40] both other sites: 1 vote [23:40] see , told ya so [23:40] OK then. [23:41] Alright [23:41] actually , it might be beter to move on tile [23:41] hill , right [23:41] no [23:41] keep it where it is [23:42] No, it's fine where it is [23:42] build that city [23:42] extra cash comes in [23:42] OK, NM's orders were to cancel the worker in Rek...whatever, move NE and irrigate. [23:42] NE is grassland, NW is the cow he had been discussing [23:42] * MasterZen has quit IRC (Quit: I am totally falling asleep... zzzz.. good luck ;)) [23:42] am I to assume it is a typo? [23:42] is that city build allready ? [23:43] put it on cow [23:43] can't, the turn was used before the sav was posted [23:43] mine cow [23:43] the cow HAS a mine, he was talking of overriding and irrigating to get 4 food. [23:43] no way [23:43] we need shields now [23:44] That shield from the mine is wasted. [23:44] keep it for later then [23:45] dont waste the worker turns there [23:45] Let's not change anything - when the irrigation is finished we'll move the iron worker there to gain an extra food. [23:46] aaaarrgh [23:46] what? [23:46] nothing [23:47] is that city build allready , and what is its name going to be , .....? [23:47] Can't build it yet. [23:47] next turn [23:48] okay [23:48] Leaving most the swords where they are, expect what was SPECIFICALLY stated. That seems to be future orders for what his plans are to me [23:48] are there 2 units in Reyk? [23:48] yes. [23:48] ok.. [23:48] yes [23:48] a spear and sword [23:50] 4 FAM was done by last term - no further orders [23:50] great. [23:50] anything else Im missing? [23:51] wheres thor? [23:51] in zulu land [23:51] near zimbabwe [23:51] found im [23:51] already moved. [23:51] give hime a smoke break [23:51] ok ending turn. [23:54] fyi, couldn't pop rush OPD's in 775, and the other orders the units had already moved. [23:54] Ottomans starting Great Lib [23:55] wow this is taking a while. [23:55] ok got a worker stack with no orders N of stockholm [23:55] well with 23 civs it does [23:55] 23 civs... processing... [23:56] and 2 spears made in the core [23:56] wait for workers [23:56] were we sealing the boarder with Zulu? [23:56] along the mountains? [23:56] do so , seal it off [23:56] but not with workers [23:56] Don't know what we were going to do but sounds like the best option, if feasible [23:57] let the workers go to the new city we shall build [23:57] the wheat can use some work and them hills [23:58] Ok, the city site was right where they stand, right? [23:58] Yes [23:59] yes [23:59] currently birka...let me know if anyone wished that changed. [23:59] hmmmm, ....... [23:59] make it "Uno forgot" [00:00] Leave it until we can poll [00:00] My humble suggestion [00:01] Im going to have the workers start on that alternate route to OPD's [00:01] send one to that wheat of birka [00:01] That's on the way. [00:01] ;) [00:02] just roading till they get there. [00:02] new spears moved to help form wall [00:02] along the coast , right ? [00:02] along zulu [00:02] yes, workers going along coast [00:02] Only 1 tile will be open for invasion next turn. [00:03] Damn DBZ pic pages are hard to find... [00:03] f11 thread [00:03] http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/falcon/132/index.htm [00:03] for MrWIA [00:04] Gracias [00:04] http://www.angelfire.com/in2/thePiccoloProject/index.html [00:04] f11? [00:05] the pics for NM , ...... [00:05] you need new ones [00:05] i just posted there , and asked for it to be topped [00:05] ? [00:05] oh, don't have that yet. [00:05] ok, any FAM business? [00:05] I can do that eventually... [00:06] construction for 950 gold? [00:06] nah [00:06] no [00:06] to expensive [00:06] For this turn? No idea - should I end turn from last turn even though I don;t know the moves? No to buying tech [00:06] possibility of whoring [00:06] The money is intended for Swords [00:06] Hang on... [00:07] The total gold from all civs is around 500 or less - not worth it ATM [00:07] We cleaned 'em out last time [00:07] oh damn Im not checking all of them. [00:07] Don't anyway [00:07] that's the only one on a quick check [00:07] 'off [00:07] * BigFurryMonster has quit IRC (Quit: BigFurryMonster goes back to RL.) [00:08] the only civs that haev any money already have construction [00:08] Germany should have 165 or so, America 90 and that's more or less it [00:08] Thanks CD [00:08] Germany and America already have it [00:08] no orders for Asgard [00:08] General rule this chat - no buying tech for 5+ turns [00:08] only FAM i see is map whore [00:09] leave as spear? [00:09] we dont buy techs at all this chat [00:09] Yeah - +23 or so gold per turn map whore [00:09] build swords [00:09] Correction: warriors to use the money for upgrading [00:10] We may need to pillage that Iron sometime... [00:10] nope , thats a waste of money [00:10] That's the plan [00:10] panag - we're not changing the plan now [00:10] ok, Im leaving Asgarud building spears. [00:10] Looks good, UnO. [00:11] can't poprush still [00:11] asgarud can build a sword , it shall be of better use [00:11] BTW, can we get a save at some point (in a turn or two if you like)? [00:11] Anything else? [00:11] 4 Beyond mapwhore, nothing FAM [00:11] mapwhore now? [00:12] Every turn. :D [00:12] they have no money [00:12] Everyon has at least 1gold [00:12] I hate you. [00:12] :D [00:12] Don;t bother if it's too much - would be my problem [00:12] We have so much gold already [00:12] No need for more [00:13] we dont have enough , ever [00:13] we need more [00:13] well..we will never no when we need it [00:13] never have too much gold [00:13] Yeah, but we also want to play the game... [00:13] so [00:13] UnO - Prez's call, with the FAM recommendation that we do it at least every 3rd turn [00:13] what does that have to do with no selling the map [00:14] Takes so much time panag [00:14] there is no money [00:14] and we have a new city [00:14] they shall pay [00:14] when they have the money [00:15] oh, I go doing it then you say never mind. [00:15] getting 1 gold each on average. [00:15] couple of 2 gold + TM [00:15] If you do it this turn then just skip the nest one or two. [00:16] Yeah +23gpt is nice, but so tedious that it should be done only when really needed or when it is not a great concern. [00:17] that is almost as much as we have as gpt... [00:17] I know... [00:18] I think I got them all [00:18] not next turn [00:18] For the future we could have the save sent to me for FAM stuff whilst there is any debate about workers etc. [00:18] one question...do went want any embassies any time soon? [00:18] An idea, at least [00:19] esp zulu/iro? [00:19] no embassies yet [00:19] Hmm... what would it help? [00:19] ok ending turn. [00:19] 4 Go for it [00:19] MrWIA, we can try that. [00:19] and why should we watse money this turn [00:19] waste [00:19] We would see the defences in the cap, but that's it [00:19] true [00:19] Not atm, but before the war [00:20] Egypt started great wall and finished GL [00:20] we know there is nothing there [00:20] assuming they dont do it first.. [00:20] carthage switched to great wall [00:20] Russia same [00:20] Russia built it, actually [00:21] ah the 5 min waiting period. [00:21] Egypt with GL.... [00:21] Ill post the save after this. [00:21] Thanks [00:22] Have new avatar! [00:22] Possibly a temp... [00:24] attempting to load save. [00:24] This is going to become a technocracy very soon - only those with the best PCs can play! [00:24] My connection has been lousy all morning... [00:25] huh , mrwia , the other one was better [00:25] non existant earlier. [00:25] We agree on something there panag. [00:25] Never mind... we must press on [00:26] and , any progress on save uno ? [00:26] it's about 80% uploaded [00:26] New thread 'chat report' when it happens [00:27] celts have currency [00:27] Great [00:27] Should be up. [00:27] http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91320 [00:28] Shall we do the thing where I do the FAM whilst things are discussed next chat or from now? [00:28] No new orders were needed this turn, all just auto-moves... [00:28] Want me to whore again? [00:28] you forgot about birka [00:28] You guys could discuss things for a minute when I have the save up and I'll do the whoring... [00:28] what about it? [00:29] 65% downloaded [00:29] you like that hé mrwia [00:29] Stick to what you know... [00:29] lol [00:29] While you whore, Im gonna step away for a moment [00:30] yeah , we shall leave you in peace mrwia [00:30] while you do your "thing" [00:31] Fine - loading to whore now... [00:31] ok, I'm taking off :p [00:31] cya all later [00:31] If there is discussion to be done - now is the time [00:31] * Arnelos|PlayingCiv3 has quit IRC (Quit: ) [00:31] Adios Arn [00:31] Hang on! UnO! [00:31] Did you play this in 1.21f? [00:32] yes....was I not supposed to? [00:32] It was in 1.14 - we were going to change... just means I had the wrong game open, is all [00:32] I will be another few minutes than I though [00:33] *thought [00:33] What about birka, panag? [00:33] and I *thought* GK upgraded it last term [00:34] No he didn't, he left it in 1.14 anyway [00:34] We were going to start with the new version anyway [00:34] I just forgot [00:35] I have to go, see you all later [00:35] Well, you can all impeache me. [00:35] 4 Commencing the whore missions [00:35] panag? [00:35] birca? [00:35] problem? [00:35] * theViking has quit IRC (Quit: ) [00:36] finally loaded [00:36] back [00:36] made a cup of thee [00:36] birca? [00:36] and smoked ;) [00:37] yes you did found birca , right [00:37] the new city ? [00:37] yes. [00:37] good [00:37] thats extra money and science [00:38] Man, looking at Iriquois, this will be more of a war than I thought... [00:38] thats why i told ya to build some swords aswell [00:38] and move on gnome [00:39] I did forget to POST about birca...if that's what you meant [00:39] so that they cant get horses from the zulu [00:40] Funny avatar, MrWIA! [00:40] Though a bit tough to make out [00:40] what does it mean ? [00:40] Our avatars are from the same Anime series [00:40] two guts sitting on a rock with backs towards each other , ..... [00:40]