Session Start: Thu May 15 16:16:59 2003 Session Ident: #civ3dem [16:16:59] * Now talking in #civ3dem [16:32:27] * GodKing (GodKing@dialup-67.72.196.185.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net) has joined #civ3dem [16:32:30] hello [16:35:31] hello! [16:35:40] ha ya doin? [16:37:36] decent i suppose, feeling kinda lazy and unambitious [16:37:40] * UberKruX (~krux@ool-18bd537e.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #civ3dem [16:37:46] hi uber. [16:37:49] hey [16:38:08] hey [16:38:27] almost missed the chat, was playing RoN ;) [16:38:42] how is it? [16:38:46] awesome. [16:38:51] Ron.... i didn't think it was out til next week.... [16:38:56] spies suck though. im going to rant about those. [16:39:13] I was at the new matrix movie. It rocks. [16:39:23] i just had some guy bribe all my units from me [16:40:52] looks like warrior's luck won the Iznik poll [16:41:16] * OctavianX (~thesim109@coin-as3-44.coin.org) has joined #civ3dem [16:41:24] hi [16:41:28] Hello [16:42:56] hey there [16:43:18] I just read about Civ3 - Conquest. 8 new civs. Random events. Should be great [16:43:43] no. horrible. [16:43:47] Don't forget new bugs as well [16:44:01] 30 more dollars for 8 civs i dont want and maybe 2 more units [16:44:09] and new bugs! [16:44:15] that alone is worth it [16:44:17] maybe we'll have 10 mil/rel combos now [16:44:32] random events!!!! can have a ww2 scenario where russian winter kicks in!! [16:46:16] I'll wait and see what they do to make the game more interesting before I drop another $30... [16:46:50] yeah [16:47:09] I won't pick it up the first week, but I am pretty sure I will get it, particularly after the first patch. [16:51:31] * BFM (anonymous@81.68.144.254) has joined #civ3dem [16:51:33] Heya [16:51:38] hi [16:51:57] Starting in 8 mins, are we? [16:52:10] yup! [16:52:14] roughly [16:52:25] making a quick dinner to eat while i play! :D [16:52:37] No dinner for me. It's night here. [16:52:43] running to the microwave..... [16:52:48] GK - where do we want our settler to go? [16:52:53] * BFM suggests to have the turnchats a little bit earlier. [16:53:02] hehe, microwaves are great ;) my food will be ready soon [16:53:10] -> [BFM] TIME [16:53:10] [BFM TIME reply]: Fri May 16 01:53:35 2003 [16:53:21] I have no idea. Am I the official substitute this time also? [16:53:22] i'm usually in school :( [16:53:46] GK - Well kloreep posted orders to move the settle "N-W" [16:53:53] * WhiteBand goes back to read the orders [16:54:11] we have a settler? [16:54:17] or you mean next turn [16:54:21] yeah next turn [16:54:23] k [16:55:08] * CiverDan (CiverDan@141.154.204.253) has joined #civ3dem [16:55:11] hello [16:55:18] hey CD [16:56:21] * UberKruX loads up the game [16:56:35] ill load up too [16:56:45] so we'll bash out around 10 turns or so [16:59:02] i'm gonna go ahead and take care of some stuff [16:59:18] err in regards to lux sliders and the like [16:59:25] go ahead. :) [16:59:48] 4Lux slider changed to 10% [17:00:02] I've been known as a President to start the boring stuff 2 hours before a turn chat... [17:00:22] haha, i should have done that [17:00:38] 4Specialist in Asgard working south tile [17:01:11] 4Iznik building warrior [17:01:27] 4Change Trondheim's build to a Barracks [17:01:28] Back. [17:01:38] he's still unhappy [17:01:53] what save did we start with 2070? [17:01:58] yeah but he is working the tile as opposed to before we would have 2 unhappies i believe [17:01:59] ja [17:02:03] GK - yup [17:02:08] thanks. [17:02:19] we dont want it to do into disorder [17:02:33] yeah but there is a happy worker there to offset him [17:02:51] on mine their isnt [17:03:03] we're talking about Asgard, not Iznik [17:03:08] Iznik isnt working any tiles [17:03:15] one 1 sci and 6 G [17:03:18] 4Change Iznik's specialist to a scientist [17:03:19] no happy [17:03:34] CD - did you change the lux slider to 10%? [17:03:41] yes [17:04:18] weird [17:04:22] i get 0 Happy 1 sci and 6 Gold [17:04:24] don't know how to explain that :) [17:04:27] OH [17:04:29] change the specialist [17:04:37] he is going to work tile S of asgard [17:04:41] In asgard, i have 1 happy, 1 unhappy, and one stoned out of his gourd that he doesn't care [17:04:51] hehe... [17:05:16] is asgard working 2 squares or 3? [17:05:22] 3 [17:05:34] S, SW, and W [17:05:39] SE*** [17:05:43] and E [17:05:46] i am so bad with that. [17:06:00] * BetaHound (brucehynes@65.48.59.134) has joined #civ3dem [17:06:01] hmm...what your lux/sci/trade ratio [17:06:09] Go clockwise and think "Never Eat Shredded Wheat" my friend ;) [17:06:25] Greetings, fellow Vikings! [17:06:27] 1.0.9 [17:06:31] hey BH [17:06:33] lux.sci.tax [17:06:33] I have 90 tax and 10 lux. [17:06:39] yea [17:06:44] GK - yup [17:06:51] anyone suggest we make any changes to this or keep it? [17:06:56] funy..i only see 7 her [17:06:59] here [17:07:01] Even at 100 lux, iznik will not be content. [17:07:06] * E_T1 (E_T@216.53.175.99) has joined #civ3dem [17:07:19] 1.0.9 sounds good to me... [17:07:22] I heard someone say turnchat [17:07:23] CiverDan, do you have the right save? [17:07:33] 3 gold on cap and 2, 1, 1 [17:07:34] Hi all [17:07:37] 2070 BC [17:07:45] hi [17:07:52] hey et [17:07:57] where is the other 2 gold? [17:07:59] Uber - Orders for Odin? [17:08:13] weird [17:08:27] odin pauses [17:08:33] skip turn then? [17:08:39] yes. [17:08:41] should we investiage where those bard camps usde to be [17:08:42] gotcha [17:09:08] it might be an isthmus [17:09:18] true [17:09:30] area to the east? [17:09:36] DAMMIT [17:09:37] to teh west [17:09:38] WEST [17:09:39] yeah [17:09:40] haha [17:09:43] lol [17:09:44] Zulu will trade mysticism for 198 [17:09:48] i spout advice and don't even follow it [17:09:49] haha [17:09:50] you caught my disease [17:09:56] hehe [17:10:23] okay, i'm ready to end the turn [17:10:49] i foud my error..moved the sci slider by mistake..he [17:10:49] did you make the izi man into a scientist [17:10:57] yup! [17:10:57] oops [17:11:10] i know how you feel [17:11:12] ;) [17:11:47] alright, i shall now end the turn [17:12:00] 4Ending Turn [17:12:13] :) [17:12:31] celts are going back home [17:12:32] how did odin end up moving? [17:12:39] Uber ordered him to skip turn [17:12:45] i assume we're watching where the ottomans will settle [17:12:52] ok. I will do the same. [17:12:55] we're herding them, is possible. [17:12:58] if* [17:13:13] cool, Vondrack is playing the Lego turn right now [17:13:27] okay [17:13:33] cool [17:13:37] according to Kloreep he wants the slider set back to 0% this turn [17:13:38] sound good? [17:13:42] err [17:13:43] lux slider [17:13:49] 12Odin: NW, Skip. Thor: SE, E [17:13:52] should be as we now have the settler. [17:14:10] 12Remainder of stack moves into Iznik [17:14:23] 4Odin: NW, Skip. Thor: SE, E [17:14:46] hey, rename Iznik to IsNickHome.... :D [17:15:09] Warrior's Luck won the election..... [17:15:11] 4Stack moves into Iznik, all units fortified. [17:15:24] Shall I rename it? [17:15:31] Bah! I'm the President [17:15:33] err [17:15:36] If the poll is closed, yes... [17:15:37] at the moment at least ;) [17:15:52] Please use "Warrior's Luck" for Iznik [17:15:56] unortho - do you want the spear to move towards the new city site instend of fort in Iznik? [17:16:06] you mean uber? ;) [17:16:13] as an act of defiance, you could name it WhitBanik [17:16:23] 4Iznik is now known as "Warrior's Luck" [17:16:26] yes...my bad... I was writing a couple of things to much.... sorry. [17:16:40] How about "OurGoatsAreTrained2Eat? [17:16:45] haha [17:16:50] we don't need to tribute CDG ;) [17:16:53] Goat lover. I prefer sheep. [17:16:56] true [17:16:56] CD: where the hell is that from [17:17:16] from the ISDG [17:17:27] where exactly is the settler heading? [17:17:37] CDG named a city "OurGoatsAreTrained2Kill" [17:17:40] "OurSheepAreTrained2KillGoats" [17:17:47] Site Blue I think. N & W [17:17:49] Alright guys [17:17:53] I heard of that city... [17:18:03] god. you ICS whores. [17:18:14] yeah [17:18:15] :-/ [17:18:24] 4Settler moves N-W [17:18:24] us....... [17:18:38] what kinda garrison we looking for [17:18:44] should i send the warrior or what? [17:18:56] Production in Asgard? [17:18:56] We should have at least two per city to make them productive. [17:19:01] 3 all ISDG'ers, remember that there are others that are not on our team here.... [17:19:11] i know that [17:19:14] :p [17:19:19] the bastard!@ [17:19:32] OctavianX are you subbing for Kloreep? [17:19:36] bah, it's okay to tell him that CDG no longer exists! [17:19:38] ;P [17:19:49] I thought you were, GK... [17:19:57] woo! anarchy! [17:20:09] Why don't you. I have done this the past 4 turns. [17:20:19] And I was never elected. [17:20:26] Truth be told, I'm rather busy at the moment [17:20:32] OK. I can. [17:20:35] I guess i take over! buahahaha [17:20:46] i could to [17:20:47] * WhiteBand uses great leader to rush a galley [17:20:49] go for it if you like. At least you were elected. [17:20:51] 40 archers, please. [17:21:05] :D [17:21:06] I would set Asgard to a spear. [17:21:10] okay [17:21:22] 4Asgard changed to Spearman [17:21:35] do we need to send units to the new city? [17:21:45] We should soon. [17:21:50] I would if I were you... [17:22:01] * UberKruX grumbles something about having no units [17:22:08] send something from Iznik once all the units heal [17:22:22] pondering that. [17:22:23] Or send the spear from there now. [17:22:29] hmmm [17:22:45] Out of curiousity, is someone logging this? [17:22:45] I will check some diplomicy.... [17:22:47] we should keep a spear at our city closest to them [17:22:48] i am [17:22:57] just checking. :) [17:23:00] i'm good to end turn [17:23:02] so am i if we need a backup. [17:23:04] we can get 200 fro Myst from Iro [17:23:07] * WhiteBand is somewhat responsible believe it or not [17:23:13] I may not seem like it when I talk to other teams... [17:23:37] i shoulda got into the ISDG [17:23:47] yeah it's fun :) [17:23:52] okay [17:23:53] ending turn [17:23:57] 4Ending Turn! [17:23:58] wait [17:24:01] Just kidding! [17:24:02] crap [17:24:06] what is thy bidding? [17:24:10] diplo [17:24:13] okay [17:24:22] mysticism for 181 gold from iro [17:24:25] what? [17:24:34] crap, i ended the turn you ninnies [17:24:40] hehe [17:24:46] 210 from Ottomans [17:24:48] mysticism for 181 gold from the iroquois. [17:25:03] how fast do we want monarchy? [17:25:16] communism! [17:25:34] not sure [17:25:52] Corruption isn't bad yet [17:25:59] Wheel from them for 193 [17:26:06] horsies? [17:26:14] oh [17:26:18] 4Lux slider to 0 btw [17:26:22] * BFM will go Zzzzzzzzzz [17:26:22] That's better.... [17:26:33] good catch.... I forgot that.... [17:27:00] should we really trust this game to you guys? :p [17:27:13] Hey, you can run next election :P [17:27:15] WB, you NEED to give warning that the turn will be ending and then wait a bit before ending it.... [17:27:23] i usually do give a warning :P [17:27:24] of course not.... I lost my election. Remember? [17:28:03] so, any diplo or wait a few rounds? [17:28:07] i say wait [17:28:13] we don't want to spend the money now do we? [17:28:14] same here [17:28:20] then shall we end turn? [17:28:25] are we good? [17:28:33] i'm ready if everyone else is [17:28:38] BTW - we are at +10 per turn now. [17:28:44] true! [17:28:48] very good for this early. [17:29:01] why am i at +11 [17:29:12] you ended the turn without changing the lux slider? [17:29:19] you ended the turn right? [17:29:24] i reloaded and ddi it over [17:29:27] did* [17:29:37] ah whatever [17:29:40] hehe [17:29:45] i can post a save in a bit if you'd like [17:29:50] o [17:29:54] alright, can we end this turn? [17:29:55] i has iznk as a tax dude [17:29:57] oops. [17:30:01] oh, that is it [17:30:41] OK. END TURN PLEASE [17:30:46] 4Ending Turn [17:31:11] okay [17:31:14] limey ottoman bastards did exactly what i didnt want them to [17:31:22] yeah [17:31:24] hit the fur? [17:31:29] you need more than 1 to herd :( [17:31:35] i know :-/ [17:31:55] * UberKruX demands civ2's ZOC [17:32:08] 4Bergen Founded [17:32:16] They may get upset if they found a city and we have Odin in its radii [17:32:45] * OctavianX (~thesim109@coin-as3-44.coin.org) Quit (Ping timeout) [17:33:04] * BFM (anonymous@81.68.144.254) Quit (Ping timeout) [17:33:29] Adjust Trondheim worker then bergen worker. [17:33:40] 4Move Trondheim's WF on the S tile to the W tileProd [17:33:51] err [17:33:58] ignore that tileprod crap at the end ;) [17:34:02] The tile that is being worked [17:34:25] hmm [17:34:26] The loss of a shield this turn will not effect production of the spear [17:34:27] not here [17:34:39] GK - we switched production there to Barracks [17:34:46] OH [17:34:52] 12Thor: E. Odin: [17:34:53] same shield costs. [17:34:59] 12Odin: SW [17:35:15] 4Bergen WF works E tile [17:35:47] 4Thor E, Odin SW [17:36:03] christ [17:36:07] bergen produces barracks? [17:36:13] does that sound okay or should we change? [17:36:43] ok [17:36:47] * WIA_at_wo (~mrwhereit@OllyPantoja001.irl.cri.nz) has joined #civ3dem [17:36:55] Don't mind me... :D [17:36:59] Howdy prez [17:37:04] Gidday [17:37:08] oh god the pressure!!! [17:37:33] Quick, get the secretary out of your office mr. VP [17:37:41] No pressure - I just want to see what mistakes I nbeed to correct on the weekend ;) [17:37:44] 4Production in Bergen changed to Barracks [17:38:10] Trond is also making a barracks? [17:38:13] What I can take credit for now ;) [17:38:16] i haven't got into the "fun" mood yet where i abandon cities [17:38:20] yes [17:38:30] that's what i asked [17:38:34] Iznik is making barracks? [17:38:34] does that sound alright? [17:38:42] i thought only Trip did that :P [17:38:44] we have barracks in Asgard and Trondheim [17:38:48] CiverDan - LOL [17:39:17] no, no barracks yet in trond. It can make them next turn if production is changed. [17:39:27] well [17:39:31] i meant to type soon [17:39:32] sorry ;) [17:39:35] trond has barrax next turn [17:39:36] yes? [17:39:44] ja [17:39:46] k. [17:39:50] we need them, but what is better, barracks, or a spear for bergen? [17:40:19] well..we are goin to cover bergen with a unit soon anyways [17:40:25] what unit? [17:40:29] I say barracks. Vote anybody? or just do it. [17:40:36] barrax. [17:40:39] i'm for barracks, it will give us a kick ass army [17:40:49] Barracks it shall be. [17:40:52] the warrior from Iznik once its healed..i assume [17:41:02] ok [17:41:03] GodKing - are you standing in for Kloreep? [17:41:08] I guess. [17:41:08] Shall we check out some techs? [17:41:12] Cheers :b [17:41:23] i did...nothing changed [17:41:46] do we want to go ahead and buy anything? [17:41:52] I lost my election, and now I am in the 5th of 6 chats as the DM. Next time, I sould run for prex that way I can play the game all the time. [17:42:00] haha [17:42:06] I have to remember to loose my election however. [17:42:18] we have a pile of money sitting around, so what shall we use it for? [17:42:29] Whores [17:42:39] i have 1 vote for whores [17:42:40] anyone else? [17:42:43] we could bye masonry from the ottomans..and try to barter with the iroquois with it [17:42:53] Whores++; [17:43:13] masonry is value 4 [17:43:14] so let's see [17:43:35] mysticism is also value 4 [17:43:47] wheel is 4 too [17:43:47] masonry from celts for 204 [17:43:53] so it looks like we could be able to barter for it [17:44:12] also, iro doesn't have it, so we may be able to sell it for something else good. [17:44:29] So who DOESN't have Masonry? [17:44:35] And has cash or another tech? [17:44:39] who has the cheapest price on masonry too [17:44:50] only iro [17:44:54] otto will sell for 220 [17:45:07] zulu for 230 [17:45:15] Do the Iroqs have something to trade it for? [17:45:17] zulu sell masonry for 206. [17:45:22] celts for 230 [17:45:29] err not on here? [17:45:30] wheel and Myst [17:45:33] on mine they say 230 [17:45:35] Yes - iro have wheel and myst. [17:45:49] If you ask them. But you can barter. [17:45:55] gotcha! :) [17:46:14] Just watch the advisor. [17:46:36] 199 from Ottomans [17:46:37] :) [17:46:58] shall we put this up for quickvote? [17:47:00] I say we pick up masonry for 204 from celts. Who wants to give $ to our first target. [17:47:16] eh, well we save 5 Gold... [17:47:25] Good point - and 5 gold difference is so little... [17:47:28] but i see your point [17:48:03] okay, so then 4Buy Masonry from the Celts for 204 Gold 1.) Yes or 2.) No [17:48:05] Quick vote 1) celts at 204 2) otto for 199 3) wait a couple of turns [17:48:13] haha doh [17:48:18]