Start of #civ3dem buffer: Sun May 11 12:19:11 2003 [09:36] * Now talking in #civ3dem [09:36] * WIA_sleep is now known as WIA_drows [09:37] * opd has joined #civ3dem [09:37] lo [09:37] Hi [09:37] howdy hi [09:37] hey GK wia [09:37] * opd is now known as opdaway [09:38] my date for tonight canceled... so I figured I would join you all... :D [09:38] I hate mornings... [09:38] then get the hjell out of kiwiland [09:38] :p [09:38] * UberAWAY is now known as UberKruX [09:38] what time is it for you down there..... [09:38] almost 10am [09:38] i slept in to 3pm today [09:38] ahhh, summer. [09:38] 10.... I would have been moving around for 4 hours by then! [09:38] Poor GodKing... [09:39] I should - will sleep again after the chat - hockey at 4pm. I was up 'till 4am [09:39] Plus it's cold here. [09:39] cold in kiwiland? [09:39] Wwwwwwinter [09:39] nonsense. [09:39] who the hell has winter in the summer? :-P [09:40] * BFM thinks Southerners are strange... [09:40] HOw can you live without a summery Christmas? :-P [09:40] The bar kicked me out at around 2 last night. [09:40] so I got a good night sleep [09:40] it's a white chirstmas, dammit. [09:40] BBQ Xmas lunches.... [09:40] Xmas on the beach in the sun - not locked up inside [09:41] You gotta admit it's a good alternative [09:41] Bars are like chatrooms - they are nice, but you get kicked out in the end... [09:41] * UberKruX loads up the save for posterity. [09:41] * WIA_drows is waking up [09:41] BBQ Christmas on the beach? making me want to go south for a visit. [09:41] Not necessarily if you know the owners :) [09:42] of either. [09:42] :) [09:42] OK - back soon - gotta do washing and get breakfast. Should be here within 20 mins. [09:42] you got 14 according to my clock. [09:42] Oh God - it's Mother's Day here too... [09:42] lol [09:43] 14? Easy. [09:43] hehehehe. I already got a haircut today so that when [09:43] I see mom later on tomarow... [09:43] * WIA_drows puts on jandals - flip-flops I think you call them :D and goes upstairs [09:43] * BFM never gets his hair cut. That is why he is so furry. [09:44] jandals? wtf? [09:44] sandals :P [09:44] no, the j is nowhere near the s [09:44] it's got to be some combination [09:44] lol [09:44] haha [09:46] any word on the other demo game? [09:46] How is the repair going? is it? [09:46] what repair? [09:47] no word yet [09:47] which one..the PTW or multisite [09:47] i think trip is still working on it [09:47] PTW [09:47] PTW. [09:48] what happened.. [09:48] not sure. It crashed about a week ago. I never did hear any details. [09:48] all I know is that the game stopped, and Trip is trying to recreate it. [09:49] GoW just kicked that much ass, is all. [09:49] Trip is "fixing" it\ [09:49] yeah, no matter what save they load, it is crashing at the same spot [09:49] so tris is fixing it by trying to recreate a whole scenario [09:49] *trip [09:51] the RP forum is all weirded out now. Half the people are pretending to be religious gurus, popes, cardnals, and what not; just trying to stay active. But it is getting all weird. [09:54] * WIA_drows is back [09:54] * WIA_drows pauses [09:55] * WIA_drows realisees he went outside on a sunday morning without knowing how bad he looked [09:55] * UberKruX is putting up sheetrock with his dad, so if i don't give orders, umm, make up some good ones ;) [09:55] Well... I didn't scare any young children, so it can't have been Hulk bad... [09:55] Sheetrock? [09:55] * WIA_drows is now known as MrWIA [09:56] the first turn, Pdin goes South [09:56] * MrWIA better load the game [09:56] drywall. [09:56] FUN [09:56] fun. [09:56] i just redrywalled my room in december [09:56] * MrWIA wonders if everyone is speaking adifferent language to him, or if it's just morning where he is :p [09:57] It's just morning, Mr. ! [09:57] I bought some panneling today, but it is raining out, so it is still in my truck as I cannot pull out the table saw to trim it up with [09:57] Next time we gotta use DALnet if everyone can make it anyway (except GenTac) [09:57] I registered #civ3dem and #civ3demMinisters specially [09:57] K thanks BFM... [09:58] No problem. [09:58] * MrWIA realises he doesn't completely horrifiying today [09:59] Hey! I graduate in two days! [09:59] From my 2.5 degrees. [09:59] then your DrWIA [09:59] Not yet - PhD is another 3 years away... [09:59] This is just the undergrad stuff [09:59] blah [09:59] Although you can call me that if you REALLY want... ;D [10:00] undergrad.... ouch. I remember doing that. [10:00] when i saved and upload the save, i didn't make WF adjustments in Trondheim, make sure you or GK look at that to maximize production [10:00] why is Trondheim not working any tile? [10:01] Yeah. [10:01] wow [10:01] huge crosspost with uber :) [10:01] I don't know. Something with the save I guess. [10:01] They're lazy Trondheimers. [10:01] lol [10:01] not sure why it isn't working any tile though [10:01] i dunno [10:01] Shall we begin then? [10:01] si, senior kiwi. [10:01] Working tiles at this level would be too easy... [10:02] 4Turnchat #4 started.... [10:02] 12 have them work the sheilded grasslands to the SE [10:02] Okeydoke [10:02] i checked diplo stuff...no one will sell us anything [10:02] Then we're ready to end turn... [10:02] except peace for 100. IIRC, the price will go up if they enter our territory. [10:03] 4 Ending turn.... [10:03] Peace? Ther can be no peace. [10:03] fucking Iroquois warrior trail [10:03] WIA - you worked the tile, didn't you?? [10:03] yeah [10:03] a little piece of ottomans, a little piece of zulu, a little piece of.... [10:03] Iroqs move along their Warrior conga line.... Both Archers moveinto our territory [10:04] 42470BC [10:04] 4 \2470BC [10:04] So that's colour 42.... [10:04] they was 117G & 1 GPT now [10:04] *want [10:04] 12Odin South Thor: Skip [10:04] hehe [10:04] Thanks CD. [10:04] Doing ZUber's orders.... [10:04] from 100 to 117 & 1 gpt, that is a lot.... [10:04] zulu will seel us masonry..for 117G & 7 GPT [10:04] sell [10:05] Barb warrior spotted by Odin [10:05] not worth it. [10:05] too much IMHO [10:05] i agree [10:05] W W of his new position [10:05] * UberKruX crosses fingers for an elite spearmen [10:05] Our workers are in no direct danger yet... shall we keep them working? [10:05] imaging a defensive leader at this point, lol [10:05] Are those Archers going to attack, or move to threaten the Workers? [10:05] 12 have the 2 slaves mine the roaded tile south of the capitol [10:06] 4 Mining tile... [10:06] i'd say attack [10:06] they just finished their mine... [10:06] No need for WF readjustment? [10:06] Barracks in one turn/ [10:06] checking WF, but don't think so. [10:06] * UberKruX drools [10:07] Get a towel, someone! [10:07] It'll only get worse... [10:07] it'll get much worse before it gets better [10:07] no wf adjustments. [10:07] ANd FAM is well and truly out..? [10:08] celts will sell myst or Mas...but for 117G & 7 GPT also [10:08] 4 Ending turn then [10:08] wtf? [10:08] Archer attacks... [10:08] Please move those warriors! [10:08] only attacked with one? [10:08] good grief [10:08] lol [10:08] spear down to 1hp but wins! [10:09] same result here [10:09] 4 Barracks buil - need new order [10:09] *built [10:09] settler? [10:09] UberKruX, want a archer or warrior. no settler, not enough food [10:09] 12Odin: S Thor: SE then N. [10:10] WIA - did you move Odin last turn?? [10:10] archer, please. [10:10] BMF: odin moved, Thor didnt. [10:10] I moved Odin. [10:10] archer it is 12 set production to an archer please. [10:10] BFM* [10:10] Exactly [10:10] Sorry - didn't see that from WIA [10:10] 4 Changing to Archer. [10:10] 4 4Turns till Archer [10:11] anybody checking fam? [10:11] 4 Odin: S [10:11] 4 Thor: SE then N. [10:11] Nothing much of interest. [10:11] snow. [10:11] yay. [10:12] 4 The other (REg) Archer is fortified across the river from Trondheim - do we attack with a warrior from Asgard? [10:12] hey, GK [10:12] n/m [10:12] across a river... [10:12] i dunno about that [10:12] i have to eat dinner real quick [10:12] work odin back to our cities, explore to our east [10:12] Don't cross that river! [10:12] Thor explore snow [10:13] don't attack. [10:13] :) [10:13] peace with the ottomans for 60G [10:13] brb [10:13] 4 No attacks. [10:13] do we want? [10:13] 60? That will go down if we take out the ARcher... [10:13] I was checking FAm. What up? [10:14] 6 GPT & 124 G now for Masonry [10:14] Brrr [10:14] I say end turn now. [10:14] from zulu [10:14] too much [10:14] same from celts. [10:14] OK 4 Ending turn [10:14] iro have nothing [10:15] 4 Barb warrior approaching Otto city Otto Archer moces towards it from the south [10:15] That's it. [10:15] Odin goes SE (3) [10:15] 4 Thor N N [10:15] 4 Thor finds more Furs up there [10:15] Peace with Ottomans goes up to 120G [10:16] Fuck them. We will get peace later on with our terms. [10:16] odin SE? [10:16] Fur = Murder! [10:16] hehe [10:16] YEs CD [10:16] anywhere else he dies [10:16] I know [10:17] Barbarians to the left of him, Barbarians, I mean Ottomans, to the right of him... [10:17] 4 No more orders? [10:17] * BFM sings: "Barbs to the left of me, and Ottos to the right..." [10:17] was odin moved? [10:18] where did odin go? [10:18] Odin went SE [10:18] South to pillage that road I hope. [10:18] Any other move and he was dead [10:18] end turn. [10:18] 4 Ending turn [10:19] 4 Zulu start the Colossus [10:19] 80G for peace now [10:19] 4 Thor N E (8 6 ) [10:20] 4 Odin S SW [10:20] Imagine a Colossal Zulu standing in front of a city... [10:20] scarry [10:20] They're tying him in knots here.... - another ARcher to the West [10:20] Wearing only a loincloth... [10:20] Yech! [10:20] You'd be able to see right up it! [10:21] We want peace for less than 50g - right? [10:21] but nice on those cool breezy days [10:21] No peace until OUR terms. [10:21] Agreed? [10:21] agreed [10:21] Depends on who's at our front door!! [10:22] If it was really bad I don't think we'd even get peace. [10:22] we will have our first archer next turn, right? lets kill that hobo that is camping on our doorstep [10:22] Excellent idea.... [10:22] * MrWIA looks forward to attacking for once. [10:22] But do it without crossing that river [10:22] Tricky... [10:23] ye, lets have him and a spear cross together, then attack next turn [10:23] we can send one of the warriors up to trond as protection [10:23] Ok then, let's move another warrior to Trondheim just in case, then [10:23] Combine Archer + Spearman [10:23] Good idea GK! ;D [10:23] you also! [10:23] Nice to see we are all so united. [10:23] 4 Ending turn [10:24] 4Zulus start Oracle [10:24] Odin feels surrounded [10:24] 4 Archer next turn... [10:24] Go NE, N with Odin [10:24] yep. I miss counted... my bad. [10:24] back to his original spot [10:24] wait [10:24] then we'll try to go E from there [10:25] have odin go one south, then pillage the road [10:25] eh, but they can move a unit and attack odin [10:25] zEither way Odin is safe unless they have another ARcher somewhere. [10:25] ya, but it is offensive, and if they had a unit dont you think we would have seen it by now [10:25] no, they can keep a unit in the city [10:25] Odin should go N to be safe [10:26] and then with a road, reach him in 1 turn :P [10:26] NE-N to be exact [10:26] we are down to 4 GPD and 142 G for wheel from the zulu :P [10:26] 4Quickpoll: Which way does Odin go? 1. S and Pillage a road 2, NE N 3. abstain [10:26] 2 [10:26] they will not attack with spears, correct. [10:26] 1 [10:26] 1 [10:26] they might [10:26] odin Def is 0 [10:26] a spear has an attack of 1 [10:26] 3 (map knowledge) [10:26] ya, a strong wind and he is gone. [10:26] BRB [10:28] * opdaway is now known as opd [10:28] btw, I am starting a turnchat 4 going on now thread... [10:28] could I get a save? [10:28] Sure... I'll just go there and post it... [10:29] just realized the one I have is 2850 ad [10:29] thats why nothing makes sense [10:29] We are at 2310AD [10:29] I mean BC... [10:29] :D [10:29] lol [10:29] do we have 2 cities now [10:30] BTW - good to see you OPD! [10:30] Yes we do [10:30] yes [10:30] ad, bc... big deal. [10:30] cheers wia good to c u 2 [10:31] OPD, yep, 2 cities up and running. [10:31] have been living in almost complete internet isolation for the last 6 months [10:31] why? [10:32] Save going up... [10:32] I figured I'd try living w/o comp and tv for a while to see if life became more rewarding [10:32] Did it? [10:32] hell no [10:32] You're back - of course it didn't. [10:32] I just read loads of books instead [10:32] :D [10:32] * Shiber has joined #civ3dem [10:32] I do that anyway, just slightly less than loads. [10:33] Hey SHiber! [10:33] Oh my! [10:33] :) [10:33] We need to decide on what to do with Odin [10:33] I thought it'd force me to meet new people and have new experiences :( [10:33] lo shib long time:) [10:34] I was in the Peace Corps for 3 years living in a grass hut in south america. No electricity, no water, nothing. Needless to say, I did it, and I never want to do it again (the life without utilities, not Peace Corps that is). [10:34] Sorry GK - I put a thread up as well... [10:34] no big deal MrWIA [10:34] +1, eh? [10:35] just lock mine up so it doesn't get used if you want... [10:35] Bugger - gotta put up a new DM election poll. [10:36] So, any serious objections to Odin going S and pillaging the Ottoman road? [10:36] what was the quick poll results.... inconclusive... your decisions Mr. Prez. [10:36] mine [10:36] but oh well :P [10:36] It only had two or three votes [10:37] that's fine, pillage the road [10:37] back, can i get a save? :) [10:37] OK then4 Odin goes S and pillages! [10:37] ooo, sounds fun [10:37] lol [10:37] UberKruX - it is posted [10:37] gimmie a sav before u end the turn [10:37] danke. [10:38] Uber - http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85619 and move Odin S, pilalge [10:38] CRUSH!! MAIN!! DESTROY!! PILLAGE!! [10:38] that's all we've done since I posted that [10:38] just the beginning of this turn, and we just started.... [10:38] * MrWIA gives a Command to Shiber for that vulgar display of bloodlust [10:38] lol [10:38] it's MAIM though [10:38] :) [10:38] * theViking has joined #civ3dem [10:38] not MAIN [10:38] Hey Viking! [10:38] uhh i meant MAIM [10:38] Hey [10:39] Uber - you OK with that? Need more time? [10:39] :) [10:39] thor didnt move yet? [10:39] No. [10:39] NE, N then [10:39] and Trondheim is building a Spear? [10:40] Trondheim is building Spear still yes [10:40] 4Thor NE N, sees a distant landmass [10:40] Yay! Greenland! [10:40] riiiiiiiiiiight. [10:40] Peace for 40g now [10:41] * Panzer32 has joined #civ3dem [10:41] Peace for Iznik. nothing less. [10:41] hello [10:41] I knew pilalging was good... [10:41] No more orders? [10:41] whats up? [10:41] 40... to much. we get the archer next turn, then the next one their archer is dead [10:41] i got no units to meddle with [10:41] :) [10:41] 4 Ending turn [10:41] Working on it UberKruX [10:42] ack! archers [10:42] run odin run [10:42] 4 Archer built in Asgard - Archers move close to our scout... [10:42] how us your manly leg-skills Odin. [10:42] lol [10:42] 12 Asgard production set to a settler please [10:42] 4 Asgard changes to settler [10:43] 12Thor: S, S Odin: SE, S [10:43] i think odin should go back N, NE rather than S through the hills, they will possibly be able to catch him down there and cut off his escape route [10:43] Agreed, but your call Uber [10:43] if that archer moves S onto the mountain [10:43] where is odin going to move? [10:43] S [10:43] then SE, E [10:44] to the wheat [10:44] If odin goes SW SW, he can then pillage the roaded mine next turn, then escape to the south [10:44] Or escape to the North, GK. [10:44] SW SW put him rigth outside the city [10:44] The issue with going south is that they have enough ARchers to cut off a southern retreat [10:44] True, as long as he can get away from the roads.... [10:45] alright, so you're proposing what [10:45] NW, N ? [10:45] you have to use chess like thinking here ;) [10:45] just presenting options is all. Besides, we may have peace prior to being trapped [10:45] NE, N [10:45] If he goes SE S now, he will be threatened next turn. If he goes S after that, he will be cut off the next turn! [10:45] oh, right. thats E. [10:45] if you move Odin S into the mountains, he can only move 1 turn [10:45] Do we want to try to pillage more? [10:45] ok, NE N [10:45] and sac him? [10:45] Only pillage if we are safe from those Archers. [10:45] Any problems with NE NE? [10:46] yes [10:46] I mean NE N [10:46] lol [10:46] none there [10:46] heheheh [10:46] 4 Odin NE N [10:46] saw a spear [10:46] There's a spear NE of the East Archer [10:46]