Start of #Civ3dem buffer: Sat Feb 08 19:41:26 2003 * Now talking in #Civ3dem The Chat room is open * Aro_Acting_DM has joined #civ3dem testing * Aro_Acting_DM has left #civ3dem Chat starting in 30 min I'm having lunch, now. Hmm.. Nobody here.. * Aro_Acting_DM has joined #civ3dem * Aro_Acting_DM is now known as Aro_Prez * VP_AGGIESMC has joined #civ3dem hello aro i'm finished playing in the snow so now i canpla Hello, Aggie mesh told me to do the smc stuff so i can do that(and with a "land"peace that won't be much) Ok. But... Can we run a chat, without nobody else? yap So... ;) as long as we haveorders 10 minutes more. ok? sure I have detailed orders for DM, and you'll be the acting SMC, is it right? Shiber give us his orders, too yap let me load up current ave Ok, i'll have a smoke and then we start i also have to send a few pictures of snow to people brb k We rarely see snow here... :) brb back The DM stuff is worst than ever. Till now, no Governors here... same here, we see snow about once a year(if we are really lucky) so thats why it is a big deal here. yah the no gov causes more work, you think with a millin gov we could have one at the chat hehe 5 minutes to start, ok? sounds good, i am just uploading the pict now 4Ok, FAM orders first 4Sell to Zululand Electronics for 37 gpt and 81 gold 4Sell to Russia Scientific Method (pfff...) for 31 gold and 16 gpt. 4Sell Combustion to India for 492 gold and 263 gpt. 4FAM done Is it ok for you, aggie? If so, I'll post the save for the SMC orders. You're the Acting SMC, right? sounds perfect ok now i'm all readsy thats alot of money wooohoooo Uploading save 4Save posted Shiber is coming alright let me dowlosad am i right in asuming we are still at war with japan Yes, they refuse, etc, etc... :) also whay about upgrade gfalley to trasports Move the 2nd Ferry boat to Apo and we'll upgrade next turn. The other is already upgraded At Apo alright, might send some art to uber then on it (since it is a 4 defense and frigate have 2 attack Yes, joncnunn said to load the transport on uber i'm still getting the file since my bandwidth(a dial up) is being taken up by my email of pict k Load the transport at Apolyton with arty, and send it to Uber I'll make a capuccino... ;) * Shiber has joined #civ3dem hey! hi, Shiber Do you want some capuccino? ;) lol, sure Aggie is loading the save, he's the acting SMC Your orders are done already. :) A lot of money, Shiber... I'm supporting you for FAM again! :) thanks But you should be Prez. Aggie, are you there? naaaah... i like the FAM job The Prez actually is the Acting DM... lol VP_AGGIESMC has been idle 12mins 14secs i guess he's fairly busy oh well, gives us time until more people join in Yep I'm not expecting many people today... :( Did you downloaded the save,Shiber? * Shiber has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Aggie? yap just finsihed fortifying artillery etc * Shiber has joined #civ3dem wb, Shiber hi sorry, my connection dropped Aggie, some fight this turn? a questions wasn;t there a plan for some destoyers 2 destroyers, but I have no orders for it nope just bombarding with iron clads on way home, on frigate neat solace lost 2hp, and the one near AGC lost 1 Hmmm oh well then I guess we just go with current orders No fight, I think nope all ironclads were too weak but they did do damge i'm posting now There's some queues with placeholders for battleships thanks, Aggie Ok, guys... I'll be busy with the DM stuff after end the turn... The worst position in the government! also there are lots of workers around yep, but I have all PW stuff done except for three tiles, I think... I'll do it now I was reserving some workers for SMC needs, just in case hey aro since the dm isn't here you are kinda the acting dm how about a destroyer or 2 ok k files almosy uploaded Let's see where we can find a suitable queue to change Near Uber, of course i was thinking of the ps ones in persia that is close enough i think loading save i think joncnunn mentioned something about this building two destroyers in the persian coast Could you check, Shiber? must have forgotten to put his words into orders that was a while ago, in the fortress plan i think i'll go and have a look As acting DM, I can do this my preference is port of malignancde, el duderina and/or arbela I'll check i mean tarsus nope, it was roadcage i can't find any references of joncnunn saying anything about destroyers I agree with one destroyer, at least aggie, same here if we build one in el duderino this turn, we could take out that 1hp frigate yap my thought and the one in port of malignace could get the fleet south of there In all those cities we can build a destroyer in one turn but we will lost some shields And the Japan war will be finished next turn... We should wait, IMHO ok and the war with japan is basicallt over Ok, I'll do some last requests DM stuff * Shiber has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 4Turn ends in 30 sec. Is it ok? ok to end 4Ending turn * Shiber has joined #civ3dem back how many shields are we going to lose if we switch? 4Japan fleet moves around Uber 4 Aztec movements near borders... 4Wall Street is built. Ok, starting 1365 4Should we make peace with the Japs for nothing? No money... Guys? Shiber? up to you the war cost nothing right now just a sec can i see the save please? aggie, agreed Of course i'll have to look at the save first, though k I'll do the (ARGH) DM stuff lol * Shiber has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * Shiber has joined #civ3dem back sorry aro, could you post the save please? What save? Just a second Posted sorry, Shiber downloading and loading... well, i suggest that we don't sign a peace treaty until we eliminate the 8 remaining jap ships this war costs us nothing, other than the lack of access to silk, which we can get by without for now btw, we have 6992 gold and an income of 1345 gpt, shouldn't we rush a bunch of improvements? * Aidun-back_after_a_long_time has joined #Civ3dem Hello there, how are things going? * Aidun-back_after_a_long_time hears his voice egoing... silence fell for the first time in a turnchat during Aro's time term Can anybody hear me? i can i am just popping in and out AH we are in turn 1 now, aro is doing dm whicgh is why he can'tt respond:) I thought there had been some terrorist attack... nope. luckily not ;) Here, still doing DM stuff brb I was reading Goldstein about International Relations. hummm, thats good weekend reading Do you knwo the book? nope but it sounds deep but also i ditantly sounds familiar i'm here, sorta i was working I have to read it for my mid-term exams International Politics Hi Shiber hi aidun It's also some good stuff for you Shiber. yah it sounded like a book for class but i never had a class in international politics, so i doubt i read it What have you studied? science and econonomics generally my degree in in meteorology * Shiber has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Hmm, interesting so math and physics are my biggest strengths though i tutor in just about everything, I liked math, physics, chemistry and biology at school, but switched to the social sciences * Shiber has joined #civ3dem wb hi lost my connection, again brb... well they are fun, they are more hobbies unbfortunately but at least with economics and accounting i can hold my own What kind of a job do you have? 12DM done, I think... Shiber, make peace with Japan... or not? Should we sunk something first? ;) self employed, but basically i tutor people and advise others:0 i don't think we have a full ship aro to attack with Posting save Ah that's very popular work here, there must be thousands of advising people wll knowledge is an important thing I agree posted. Before we end this turn, we have to upgrade some galleons. Aidun, could you check the save, please? yes in agc aro if you like i can just give you orders for this turn, since no atatcks back yes mr Presiodent Aro, at the moment, no 4FAM Shiber, should we make peace with Japs ? No problem, Aidun make peace with Japan after we sink all the 8 ships that are currently in view k. Acting SMC Aggie, it's up to you :) no peace then k 2 first move the transport to just of uber and then offload artillery Aro check what, the DM stuff or the galleons? DM stuff. I think is all done, but... ;) Oh, we have some galleons to upgrade Our ironclad isn't healed yet Give me some time, I'll let you know if something is forgotten, you can go on in the meanwhile k, Aidun, thanks 2 right just fortify ironclad in agc, move the 2 gallions near agc to agc and upgrade Aggie, we can't fight the japs now. Next turn, for sure right right now i am just moving things Shiber, some interesting deal...? in a sec though i might move the 1/4 iron clad by the frigat and fire and then move it toward agc(with the port it wilkl heal faster 4 Upgrading galleons good idea, Aggie... found some interesting things, orders in a minute 4The two Ironclads sunk the frigate and the galley... :) I misunderstood your orders, and I was lucky... ok all's well that ends well:) Next turn, we can bombard the jap fleet with the arty good, also whay goes in willsbury this turn Willsbury? Willsbury: destroyer in 2 turns good that will be able to handle the others, i guess send the ships back to agc next turn k Greece: Electronics for 19 gold, 112 gpt (2,259 gold total). England: Electronics for 83 gpt (1,660 gold total). any objections? also notice the gallion of the west coast is on goto HIW so it can upgrade No! Great deals :) good deals shiber No objections, I meant Just a sec, i'll do it greece and england were broke last turn. i guess they had some gpt deals with other AIs that just ended and freed up some of their income 12 Aro, why is loveshack producing an explorer while Kloreep ordered to build a hospital? I'll fix this, Aidun Shiber, Deals done thanks 12 Sorry I'm wrong, courthouse and then a University 4Loveshack: Change queue to Courthouse(1)- University-Bank But this is the queue, Aidun The court was built this turn Are you with the right save/ ? Queue in Loveshak: Uni Bank Aidun, I'll post a new save named Aidun 1365 ad. :) What an honour, thanks I have the latest save running uploading ok posted all seems ok Ok. Some SMC moves? If not, turns end in ' min 4turn ends in ' min 4 1 min wait k Aro, in willsbury queue changed to destroyer 2 other than mentioned no smc moves I thought we're going to build a battleship Is a place holder for Battle ship Battleship tech and dsetyroyer will be finished in the same turn... but the destroyer will be produced before we can build battleshi[ No, we can built destroyers now But we have to wait 2 turns to build battleships and they be finished the same turn I'll built this destroyer, if noone objects It's a SMC request I don't but if we want to have a Or we can place a palace and wait one turn more... battleship asap, we have to change back to wealth that's allright Ok. Battleship, and NO a destroyer Right? agree 2 please move artillery onto uber isle 12 Moving Arty 4 Arty N to AGC 4 8 arty also move vet inf from willsbury to antioch Aidun, if I change the queue in Willsbury to wealth, we'll lost shields... I mean, we will not save shields to the battleship. yap we could set it to palace sorry, I was wrong, the palace is a better idea I'll put anything expensive in the queue as a placeholder, ok? k 4 SMC done? I was told wealth could be used to save up shields, I myself never use wealth. yes 4 FAM done? 4Aidun, DM done? I doubt he'll respond Yes done k, FAM done. 4 Turn ends in 1 minute 4 objections? no roaedy to end none FAM done for turn 1 4 ending turn 4 The japs are in Uber! ( 2 cav) wow 4 Lots of English infantry near Nuremberg... I don't like it! not for long i suppose. not with all this artillery :evilgrin: 4 seems an invasion... Shoot them right back to hell :evilgrin: FAM is away, say my name if I'm needed 4 Argh... lots of pollution yap i see thast too but a war with england right now is undesrieable I gotta go for dinner I'll be back asap but not for long then CU later * Aidun-back_after_a_long_time is now known as Aidun-dinner Aggie, do you want to kill those cav? ;) If so, I'm posting a save right now After I clean the polluition yes i do also i suggest we use workers to keep englanf from coming further in also i will send 5 art to neurenburg too Good Idea, aggie I'll post a save to you, ok? actually if you like you canncarry out the actually attack just let me get the save so i can play along and give specific orders uploading save also i suggesr rushing cathedral and then building aquaduct so we can get the 50%bounus on defense in nurenbugh k * E_T_asleep has joined #civ3dem hello et * E_T_asleep is now known as E_T hi also slider can go down another 10 turnchat today ? yap and we are in turn 2(turn 0 being the first) just about to kill some japs Hmm, yep, no war, no crowd..... well england has immitated rome and sent inf into out country back in a bit... just a sec Hmm, loks like Liz wants TOBE next..... yap that is the question :D persoanlly even i want peace Yep, Cav against Inf isn't fun... save posted Hi, E_T hi downlading ave actually we only need to put a worker seof neurenburg to block lizzy anyway, we have to reinforce the defense in Nuremberg Some arty... i was thinking putting 5 their since they have 5 units that could attack loading save now k save up Having a smoke now... :) 2 move artillery as group to fortress 2 s of AGC Do it ;) Make the moves, Aggie... Have fun! :D fire artillery at calv until they are 1/* 2 it took 5 but calv both 1/4 yes! Bombard some vessels, too... 2 fire 1 art at gallion right by,now down to 2/4 ... And kill those bastards! :D 2 now move artill 1 n and firing at another gallion 2 all gallions are 2/4 now and one galley showing over a 2/4 gallion good more troops... 2 now for the ground attack, first we attack with 2/2 inf k 2 kiils calv with no damge but no promotion well good! :) The last cav... 4 now attacking with 3/3 sword hehe 2 sword winds with 2 hp left, inasion over Congrats!! it's a shame our Ironclads are very damaged... are you doing a worker wall? Near Nuremberg If Lizzy declares war, the AI is very stupid... Hmmm... Aggie? are you there? just 1 worker needed, i did also move inf from the interior to the english border cities just incase will aslo send some artilley too k Shiber, are you there? I'll look for some deals here i'll check for deals 4Eletronics for 29 Lpt + 39 L with Aztecs What you think? sounds good, if we don't see it somebody else will posting save 4 Eletricity (!) to babs for 17 Lpt and 39 L Seems good. I'll do it in your save. * Shiber- has joined #civ3dem yah thanks i just did some infantry movewments so all cities on english border have 3inf/3art Shiber, 2 deals connection dropped Eletronics for 29 lpt and 39 l checking save now, answer in a minute with aztecs k trying to post it is dificult right now the aztecs deal sounds good, but don't do it yet k I'll wait the save from aggie next turn he will land about 4 units i think and that will end the japaness invasion ...and make another capuccino... :) i would have liked a destroyed from willsbury though Time for peace, maybe with my snow encrusted lines it is hard sending data sometimes The destroyer can be done, but there's no orders for it up to yall but it would let us destory somemore ships Shiber, what you think about peace now? You have a point, Aggie. We can do it, if needed basically, i don't mind, but i'd like the japanese to take a blow first they're the second strongest nation Quick poll: 41, destroyer, 2, battleship next turn 4 1, destroyer, 2, wait for battleship 1 1 * Shiber has quit IRC (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Shiber-))) save posted * Shiber- is now known as Shiber Downloading loading Save up Shiber, should we build a destroyer in willsbury in 1 turn? if we could keep the war going longer we could send some of the 2/2 inf to uber and have them attack jap units 1, yes to get them up 2, wait for a battleship yes sorry, i wasn't paying attention. checking deals destroyer or battleship in willsbury? destroyer, 1 turn, battleship... we'll have to wait With the risk of a war with Lizzie, we should make peace with japan... FAM orders: Greece: Radio for 35 gold and 51 gpt (total 1,055 gold). Aztecs: Electronics for 39 gold and 29 gpt (total 619 gold). Iroquois: Steel for 21 gpt (total 420 gold). Babylon: Electricity for 39 gold and 17 gpt (total 379 gold). wow! good deals just a sec lets see how they react to not being able to move any further in k Shiber, is difficult to track all deals... can you post it? also could we draft from uber, i see some cities stuch at 12 with full graneries Peace with Japan: I'd like to continue this war at least until we sink some more Japanese vessels or until another war begins. Aro, no prob and we could draft and get them promoted right there No need, shiber, four deals, ok? Greece: Radio for 35 gold and 51 gpt (total 1,055 gold). Aztecs: Electronics for 39 gold and 29 gpt (total 619 gold). Iroquois: Steel for 21 gpt (total 420 gold). Babylon: Electricity for 39 gold and 17 gpt (total 379 gold). yup listen, i'll be away for a while now, RL this would take appx. 30 minutes if any more FAM issues pop up, delay them until I return, ok? i can't stay any longer, be back in ~30 minutes * Shiber is now known as Shiber|Away 4deals done i suggets we rush all corruption imrovemnts on uber k agreed lets check also if we draft fro AGC and BOOMtown the citizen will be replace next turn 2424 L... too expensive! We need to pick some But we can make peace right now, if we want up to you personally i was seeing the japaness invasion as a great opprotunity for promotions, but it is up to you Ok, we're in war! ;) alright I suggest rush Pol in AGC and ok Pol in Neon 2 rushes, aroun 700l you mean 701 right:) 700 lytons i get it sorry a little less just a sec ok 664 L you still have dm left right It's fine yep I'll deal the DM stuff, so wow thats the least fun, i am plannign onlunch while you do that * Thud has joined #civ3dem AFK for DM stuff hi actually lets wait for peace with japan until the intelligence aggenct gets built then we can oput a spy in japan hello thud eating lunch brb * aggie2 has joined #civ3dem is anybody currently here, i go disconnected * Aidun-dinner is now known as Aidun-AFK * VP_AGGIESMC has quit IRC (Ping timeout) im here good i waas worried for a whiile, i guess aro is still doing dm Here save with DM done posted I'll check again, and end the turn Any SMC, FAM or DM orders? Aggie, should we build a worker wall in Uber or not? no let them land i put troops on hills and with the artillery no danger k 4turn ends in 2 min 4 objections? did you do the rushes none from here. (i'm filling in for shiber while he's away) two rushes in uber, right? yap and a draft would be good too in AGC and boomtown but that is up to you 4drafting from AGC and Boomtown Anything else? 4Turn ends in 30 sec that should be it, when the japaneesse land we can attack witht he 2 units and hope for an upgrade k 4ending turn * Shiber|Away is now known as Shiber 4objections? i'm back :) Ending turn, Shiber ok? 1370 AD? yep okay with me okay by me 4ending turn now 4The japs even tried to land 4Zulus and India have signed a military alliance against babs... lol 4Zulus declare war on Babylon 4a lot of indians ironclads passed in the south of Uber 4The English withdraw i must go, bye bye * Thud has quit IRC (Quit: ) 4Tanks in 4 turns... :) YEAH! ok i can give orders this turn and stead of doing them k Aro, save please I'll post a save for your apreciation, guys, but i can do the moves One sec orders are ready when you are 4save posted thanks you're welcome :) I'll do the DM thing... :( ok i was thinking about delaying peace with japan until we can get a spy there hey, good idea thanks, that will be in 2 turns hopefully i sense orders coming... India: Mass Production for 456 gold and 258 gpt (total 5,616 gold). Greece: Mass Production for 206 gold and 113 gpt (total 2,466 gold). India and Greece are turning out to be great clients yap * VP_AGGIESMC has joined #civ3dem how are we doing still at start of 1375 AD good * Kloreep has joined #civ3dem Hi. smc will be easy this turn hello DM done, posting save * HTower has joined #civ3dem * HTower has left #civ3dem Aggie, save posted... Why does he keep doing that? You have a destroyer now... hi HTower! hi Kloreep! Hi, guys! here are the SMC orders, move the destroyer staright south 5, fire artillery at the jap ships unitl all 1/4, if a 1/4 is showing but a2/4 under it, the 2/4 can still behit,then move trasports se of poly straight e. Load the transport in poly with the arty? 4firing arty now no that artillery will remain one the mainland k * aggie2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) 4 2 frig 1/4, 2 galleys 2/4 Attack with the transports? no, only use the transports on the galley's that arer 1/4 use more artullert to make the galley 1/4 k all 1/4 now the transpoers will end up just ne of the fleet what? :) Can I sink it? the transports will end up just ne of that japanesse force k not this turn next turn the ironclad can sink it k, next turn 4moving destroyer south 5 k? Should I move the transports too? Aggie? Hmmm... 4SMC? waiting. Hello, guys... ok the transport in poly syays whwere it is but the 2 se go straight e, i want to see if there are any more ships coming The transport in poly stays, The other 2 straight E yes indeed, they will attack when the frigates are gone done Any other SMC moves? none that i see, of course the iron clad 1/4 goes to agc but that is it k i see that is done so no more orders from smc, cleasr to end FAM? 4FAM? Shiber? already done Shiber has some deals, I think... check the thread :) k wait, i'll look them up for you India: Mass Production for 456 gold and 258 gpt (total 5,616 gold). Greece: Mass Production for 206 gold and 113 gpt (total 2,466 gold). 4India: Mass Production for 456 gold and 258 gpt (total 5,616 gold). * WaxTadpole has joined #civ3dem hello all Hi. 4Greece: Mass Production for 206 gold and 113 gpt (total 2,466 gold). Good clients indeed... :) hi, Wax FAM done? hello, Mr. President Hi :) FAM done, I suppose hi WaxTadpole FAM done k greetings, Mr. Minister So... I proppose end the turn and the chat Or we can end the turn and go on... 4Turn ends in 2 min ok? Little pause for piss... ;) 4turn ends in 39 sec we can end the turn and thenend the chat if you like 4 30 sec Yep, i'm a little tired... Ok for everybody? I sure killed this party... :) No, Wax.. lol It's not personal... :D lol It was never a party. At least, not since I joined, so maybe I did it. ;) i'll end the turn and chat, but later i'll do the DM stuff Is it ok, Kloreep? ? You mean ending the chat? Sure, it's your call. :) End the turn and Chat, and later do the DM stuff for 1380 4Ending turn Sounds good. :b: okay by me :) 4The greeks raised Samaria 4 Iroqs and Rome have signed a peace treaty you mean razed razed sorry :) I guess the Rome-Iraq treaty will be on the news tonight hehe "Caesar returns from Baghdad with Peace in our Time" lol 4Iroqs... lol lol Hmm... I seem to be at about 900 posts. Wow, that was fast. rome got a lot too, do you see the strip they took of iriquis k, I'll post the save now excellent chat 4 save posted well, not bad! :) 1380... that means 4 turns! I didn't realize. Nice :b: The save is posted Later, i'll do the DM stuff and post again. Thank you, gentlemen! :) well i better go later Thanks, Aggie! So, did I miss any important events? I take it we're still at war with Japan, but anything else? :) Bye Aggie. peace between iroqs and rome Thanks a lot, Shiber... * VP_AGGIESMC has quit IRC (Quit: ) LOTS of gold made and... We still at war with Japan Alliance between Zulu and India vs. Babylon hehe Heh. That's quite a non-war. Japan: waiting at least until next turn, in order to plant a spy (Intelligence Agency done next turn) I saw 3, maybe 4 indians ironclads South to Uber isle Might slow India's economy down, though. :D yep. :) Gentlemen, I need some rest now. Later i'll post a report sure good job Aro! Again, thanks to all! What kills me is the DM stuff... ;) But is hard to find a volunteer... lol IMHO the DM minister should do at least the pre-chat DM I agree... :D Ok, I'll save a log of the chat now. End of #Civ3dem buffer Sat Feb 08 19:41:26 2003