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<Mania^gov> Schitterend! :-) Is het goed gegaan?
<GT^Commis> Ok, now I've put in the right channel name.
<DBTS> ja het ging redelijk
<DBTS> hi GT
<Mania^gov> hi
<GT^Commis> Ok, I think I have all the orders except from TKG.
<DBTS> so can we begin?
<DBTS> what kind of order do we need of him?>
<GT^Commis> Base locations and base names.
<Mania^gov> rush orders!
<DBTS> oh yes crap base names i can get
<Mania^gov> Which of the hurries will be granted?
<GT^Commis> He approved mine and Voltaire's, and he said he'dget back to you.
<Mania^gov> Which he didn't. :-( Where did he approve yours and Voltaires?
<GT^Commis> In the orders thread.
<Mania^gov> Thanks. :-) I'll have a look.
<DBTS> next base name is cyclops
<Mania^gov> Oh well... Any idea what to do now?
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<GT^Commis> Hi Drogue.
<DBTS> well base locations wont be that hard right let me boot up the sav
<Drogue> Hello
<DBTS> hi drog
<Drogue> brb, gotta go for a sec.  See you in 5 minutes
<Mania^gov> ok
<DBTS> io got the sav in front of me lets see how many CPs we got
<Mania^gov> 1+3
<DBTS> currently we have one active CP in (11.113) somewhere south of NT 
<DBTS> i would say send it to (7.119)
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<GT^Commis> I beleive it was intended to found another base somewhere SE of Xanadu, but I have no idea where.
<Mania^gov> I to (9.117). :-) I don't think it was polled though. :-(
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<DBTS> i wont go for 9.117
<DBTS> you can bring it in proximity of a nutrients and a monolith if you put it in 7.119
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<Drog|DeiG> what are you talking about?
<Mania^gov> Also on 9.117 ;-)
<Mania^gov> Plus it will have more land in its radius
<Drog|DeiG> Is this about the new base in akiria
<Mania^gov> yep
<Mania^gov> Where do you want it? :-) Or was it polled?
<Drog|DeiG> go for the square with the sea nutrients, and the monlith
<DBTS> ah me not paying attetion 
<Drog|DeiG> no idea about poll, but i had a look earlier, and i no the best spot
<Mania^gov> 9.117 or 7.119?
<Mania^gov> Drogue?
<DBTS> i agree with maniac proposol of 9.117
<Mania^gov> Thanks. :-)
<Drog|DeiG> lemme have a look, looked earlier, forgot
<Drog|DeiG> brb
<DBTS> drog you pingout in apolyton
<GT^Commis> The CP is currently going to 10,114.
<Drog|DeiG> 9 , 117
<DBTS> send it to 9.117 it will be drogue base anyways
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<Drog|DeiG> It has lkess problems with Xanadu
<DBTS> hi herc
<herc2> Hello guys
<Drog|DeiG> hey herc
<DBTS> 1kess?
<GT^Commis> Hi.
<herc2> So whats happening
<Mania^gov> Hi Hercules. Have you got time for a question?
<herc2> Yes
<DBTS> yes and that is way i proposed 7.119 but 9.117 is better because of the landmass
<Mania^gov> Do you approve of my order requests for you? The two unit rehomings?
<GT^Commis> Oh, and can I move that unit in Antioch down to attack the worms???
<herc2> yes
<Mania^gov> trance scout skirmisher rehomed to terminal Dogma and police infantry moved and rehomed to UN 
  Criminal Tribunal? (what's its new name?)
<DBTS> cyclops
<herc2> yippee
<DBTS> blah i still say we attack morgan
<Drog|DeiG> Blah to DBTS
<Drog|DeiG> whees cyclops?
<Drog|DeiG> where's
<Mania^gov> In Jedinica!! :-p ;-)
<DBTS> if you look at the polls cyclops is the first name to be used
<Mania^gov> I would have liked it called Shangri La, but TKG didn't include that name in his poll. :-(
<GT^Commis> Herc: What should be done with the Plasma Garrison that just got built in NT? Hold?
<DBTS> me sees a war between the hive and the univerisity in the near future
<Drog|DeiG> I wanted cyclops as the new base about to found in Akiria
<GT^Commis> Maniac: So UNCT should be renamed Cyclops?
<herc2> If there's a new base due in Drogues region I 'd prefer cyclops there
<Drog|DeiG> No!!!
<herc2> no
<Drog|DeiG> Cyclops needs to be Hercs base
<GT^Commis> DBTS: There's one already going on.
<GT^Commis> Drogue: Fine by me.
<Drog|DeiG> the one we talked about earlier
<Mania^gov> What's the second name option.
<DBTS> oh ok
<Mania^gov> Besides Cyclops?
<herc2> re NT plasma yes hold
<Drog|DeiG> NT?
<Drog|DeiG> which NT?
<GT^Commis> New Tassagrad.
<DBTS> havent looked alot of names got 4 and cyclops got 5 and i cant open apolyton right now
<GT^Commis> Where's the other one?
<DBTS> which other one?
<Drog|DeiG> lemme have a look
<GT^Commis> DBTS: You gave orders for the former SE of Xanadu to move SE and then farm & solar, but wouldn't ti 
  be better to do it right where it is?
<herc2> herc wheels out the ancient history books and epic poems for their new home
<Mania^gov> Damn it. I can't seem to find the base name thread and TKG hasn't updated the directory. Does anyone 
  know on what page the thread is?
<GT^Commis> Which one? The poll?
<DBTS> GT i have two there one will solar farm and the other something else right?
<Mania^gov> Found it already. :-)
<Mania^gov> :cute:
<Drog|DeiG> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74153
<DBTS> if not go for it
<Drog|DeiG> base name thread
<Drog|DeiG> loads of option
<Drog|DeiG> s
<GT^Commis> DBTS: Oh, yes, you do. My mistake.
<Drog|DeiG> Ankh-Morporkh wouldbe good IMO
<Drog|DeiG> for Jedinica
<DBTS> ok by me
<GT^Commis> Yes, we have no less than four choices here.
<Mania^gov> Ok. Walhalla has four votes. May I propose that becomes the Jedinican base name. Then Cyclops can go 
  to Akria.
<Mania^gov> What does Ankh-Morporkh mean??
<DBTS> i will be abstain in this debate i dont care
<GT^Commis> Maniac: It's from the Discworld.
<Mania^gov> But as long as it doesn't become Lemmy's Laboratory I'm fine with any name. ;-)
<Mania^gov> I see.
<GT^Commis> If Maniac Maniac wants the base to be called Valhalla, then Valhalla it shall be.
<DBTS> ok
<Mania^gov> Thanks. :D
<DBTS> we have 230 councel vote we can become councel leader with out any other help i think
<Mania^gov> true :b:
<GT^Commis> Yup.
<GT^Commis> I've been saying that for ages.
<DBTS> ok any other problem that need to be adressed?
<Mania^gov> Yes, what rush requests of Jedinica will be granted please?
<Drog|DeiG> I have some rushs if possible, not stright away, but for one next turn, on ethe turn after,a nd one 
  the turn after that (to save costs, all different bases)
<DBTS> how much is it in total? (the rush)
<GT^Commis> Maniac: If it was up to me, I'd approve 'em.
<GT^Commis> DBTS: For Maniac? A little over 200.
<Mania^gov> Will we vote on them?
<GT^Commis> All of them at once, or seperately.
<GT^Commis> ?
<Mania^gov> First all together, and if that fails, apart?? :cute:
<DBTS> GT approve i aprove
<herc2> seperately
<DBTS> i voted for the guy so why not and apart is ok by me
<GT^Commis> I think Maniac ahs the better idea.
<Drog|DeiG> Ok... Mine will cost 41 ec to rush a SC in Twin Peaks in 2 turns, 66ec to rush a CC in NT next turn, 
  and 41 ec to rush a SC in Aurora in 3 turns
<GT^Commis> No need tov toe seperately if they're all approved together.
<Drog|DeiG> Twin Peaks needs it, it is small, and needs to develop, which will atke ages at 3 min per turn
<Drog|DeiG> Aurora has much to build, and needs a new SC ASAP
<herc2> oh alright
<DBTS> i dont any rushes this sessions! i will ask for some next time
<GT^Commis> Drogue: We'll vote on Maniac's, and then on yours.
<Drog|DeiG> New Tassagrad has many buildings to build, we have much money, and the CC will be a lot of help for it
<Drog|DeiG> Ok
<Mania^gov> Sheathed Sword network node: 84 ec to prevent drone riot - Valhalla rec tanks 54 ec in a few turns - 
  (pushing the limit) Concordia tree farm 150 ec
<DBTS> the first two i agree the last no
<Drog|DeiG> i agree on all
<herc2> tree farm not yet
<DBTS> GT?
<Drog|DeiG> 150 is not too much for an essencialbit of kit
<GT^Commis> Maniac: Would you mid if I shaved a few ECs of to make sure no minerals would be wasted carrying over?
<GT^Commis> Okay. First poll: Maniac's request. 1 = approve, 2 = disapprove, 3 = abstain.
* GT^Commis votes 1
<Mania^gov> I alreadu did so. :-)
<Mania^gov> Oh you mean the first ten?
<Mania^gov> Fine by me.
<GT^Commis> Yes.
<Drog|DeiG> 1
* Mania^gov 1
* DBTS 1 to the first two
* GT^Commis carried.
<herc2> o first 2
<herc2> 1
<GT^Commis> Drogue: could you please repeat your request for Akiria?
* Mania^gov carried = ?
<GT^Commis> It means the vote passed.
<GT^Commis> If that's what you're asking.
<GT^Commis> Drogue?
<Mania^gov> Thanks for the explanation. :-)
<Drog|DeiG> Mine will cost 41 ec to rush a SC in Twin Peaks in 2 turns, 66ec to rush a CC in NT next turn, and 41 
  ec to rush a SC in Aurora in 3 turns
<GT^Commis> Second poll: Drogue's request. 1 = approve, 2 = disapprove, 3 = abstain.
* GT^Commis 1
<Drog|DeiG> 1
* DBTS 1
<herc2> ok by me
* Mania^gov 1 of course
<GT^Commis> Passed.
<Drog|DeiG> my thanks to al
<Drog|DeiG> all*
<Mania^gov> the favour returned ;-)
<GT^Commis> Ok, anything else that needs to be resolved from you?
<DBTS> can i ask for one rush then?
<Drog|DeiG> go on ;)
<herc2> yes
<GT^Commis> Where, of what, and for how much?
<DBTS> networknode in DEM for 116
<DBTS> or over two turn for less
<herc2> ok
<Drog|DeiG> too much
<Drog|DeiG> go for less
<Drog|DeiG> ovr 2 turns
<DBTS> then rush in 2 turns
<Mania^gov> I'm fine with it.
<herc2> yes ok
<GT^Commis> I'd say rush it in a turn or two.
<GT^Commis> It will be much cheaper then.
<DBTS> me agree
<DBTS> that all from me
<DBTS> for*
<GT^Commis> Drogue: Where should the probe skimship in TBIBTU go?
<GT^Commis> IT infiltrated the Spartans.
<DBTS> my computer is acting strange if i leace i will get back as soon as i can
<DBTS> leave*
<DBTS> i would say explor dark stop N of NA
<Drog|DeiG> Um... back towards the spartans
<Drog|DeiG> No,other side DBTS
<Drog|DeiG> Westwards
<DBTS> it is in TBIBTU right?
<Drog|DeiG> sorry
<Drog|DeiG> U mean the Hive?
<herc2> maybe it should east towards that black area
<Drog|DeiG> It infiltrated the hive?
<GT^Commis> No.
<Drog|DeiG> then yes, back towards the unexplored area around TBIBTU and NA
<GT^Commis> For some reason, it got moved back there afterwards.
<DBTS> explor the black spot north of NS
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<Drog|DeiG> Oh well, seems strange?
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<Drog|DeiG> whatd we get from the spartans?
<GT^Commis> You realize there's an IoD luking around there?
<GT^Commis> Infiltration.
<DBTS^gov> almost death
<herc2> yes but is it not damaged
<GT^Commis> But ti could still kill a probe.
<DBTS^gov> it is 70% damaged it wont attack
<Drog|DeiG> let it go there
<Drog|DeiG> Ill risk it
<GT^Commis> Are you willing to bet a probe on that?
<GT^Commis> Oh well.
<DBTS^gov> lol
<Drog|DeiG> although.. herc might want to give it a trance upgrade :expect:?
<GT^Commis> On your head be it.
<herc2> great idea
<Drog|DeiG> Well, on a 70% damaged one, yes
<Drog|DeiG> thanks herc :D
<GT^Commis> D+It's a probe.
<GT^Commis> It can't be given Trance.
<Drog|DeiG> what does that mean GT?
<GT^Commis> It's incapable of defending itself.
<Drog|DeiG> :S, oh well, how much morale has it got?
<GT^Commis> Hardened, but as I keep saying, it's a probe, it cannot defend itself.
<Drog|DeiG> Oh yes... sorry
<Drog|DeiG> forgot that bit
<Drog|DeiG> Hmmmm...
<DBTS^gov> it atleast can explot a bit of the black spot
<Drog|DeiG> well, we have 2 on that side, so might as well risk it
<herc2> our probe will stick in the fungas 
<Drog|DeiG> good idea Herc
<DBTS^gov> so the IOD has only 2 moves it is not a threat
<Drog|DeiG> yes, lets go for it
<GT^Commis> Ok. Just some other news: we should be able to infiltrate the University next turn.
<GT^Commis> Fianlly.
<GT^Commis> Finally.
<DBTS^gov> yay
<herc2> alays wanted to go to uni
<herc2> always
<Drog|DeiG> :D
<Mania^gov> I'll set up an exchange program for the Terminal Dogma students. :-)
<Drog|DeiG> I'll set up a cultural exchange from Aurora :D
<DBTS^gov> lol are they recoverd from the worm attack?
<DBTS^gov> i will open pizza places from UNPD
<herc2> have we got such a programme underway in Akiria, beat me to it
<Drog|DeiG> Ohh.. sorry, I forgot, thats your department
<GT^Commis> DBTS: What worm attack?
<Drog|DeiG> we will have soon, if you like
<DBTS^gov> a long time ago
<GT^Commis> Maniac: Those Librarians have made PAndemonium the base witht he biggest lab output.
<Drog|DeiG> At the moment were undertaking Akiria in pictures and words, with two well known photographers and 
  poets
<Mania^gov> GT: I know. Now I can brag in the Jedinica Vrijstaat thread. ;-)
<GT^Commis> Bah.
<Drog|DeiG> :p
<GT^Commis> You'll lose bragging rights when I have those boreholes done.
<DBTS^gov> ha biggest enegry supply and psyh both from UNPD :P
<Mania^gov> Why do you think I voted against them? :-D
<Drog|DeiG> We all know why i voted against them
<Drog|DeiG> did they both get through?
<herc2> and me
<GT^Commis> DBTS: Psych isn't much to brag of, it just means you need Doctors.
<GT^Commis> Drogue: Yes.
<GT^Commis> So did Voltaire's.
<DBTS^gov> GT really? damn
<DBTS^gov> well then i will brag about the energy reserves
<Mania^gov> :lol: Governors and regions were a really good idea.
<Drog|DeiG> definatly
<Drog|DeiG> I now have Majors too :D
<DBTS^gov> GT about that can u change on of the docters in UNPD to a forestworker? i have enough talents
<Mania^gov> I sent a PM to Pande and Kirov. Still waiting for an answer. cute:
<GT^Commis> I can change them both, if you like. The base won't riot.
<DBTS^gov> if both please
<herc2> I am looking forward to one: a sea region, and hellinic ideal like the cycliades or whatever
<DBTS^gov> isnt equal the same as riot?
<DBTS^gov> if you have equal talents and drones they dont riot.....somethings changed with the patch
<GT^Commis> No.
<Drog|DeiG> Maniac... Hmmm.... WHich bases?
<GT^Commis> DBTS: No, only if they exceed.
<Drog|DeiG> You like stealng my people don't you?
<Mania^gov> Kirov to Concordia and Pandemoniak for Pandemonium.
<Drog|DeiG> Oh well, I only started it cause I thoughts it was fun, and I wanted STEP to run Akiria collectivly
<DBTS^gov> ok now what next?
<Mania^gov> They are currently living in Jedinica!! I'm only trying to prevent emigration. :-((
<herc2> still might
<herc2> united states of Akiria-Troy
<DBTS^gov> we aurillions are starting to feel isolated between the STEPs akiria and the big bases of centralis
<GT^Commis> Drogue: Should the Eastern laser foil rest for 1 turn to repair?
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<herc2> yes foil rest
<GT^Commis> Right.
<Drog|DeiG> But DBTS: Your bases are huge!
<GT^Commis> I'm now cantacting Deirdre to askf ro Miriam's commlink.
<DBTS^gov> UNPD is
<DBTS^gov> oh and DEM an ZG are too...:D
<GT^Commis> She's offering it for 80 ECs.
<DBTS^gov> ok!
<Drog|DeiG> Ok
<herc2> oh yes
<GT^Commis> And now she wants us to give her Doctrine:Loyalty for nothing.
<GT^Commis> refuse?
<Drog|DeiG> Give it
<DBTS^gov> refuse
<herc2> give it
<GT^Commis> Drogue: why?
<Mania^gov> refuse
<Drog|DeiG> ally
<Drog|DeiG> because shes an ally, and needs it to help against the spartans
<Drog|DeiG> our common enemy
<Drog|DeiG> and she might go for pact if we do
<GT^Commis> Okay, quickpoll: 1 = give, 2 = refuse, 3 = abstain
<DBTS^gov> she isnt an ally 
<herc2> She will deliver
<Mania^gov> Are we allied to her?
<Drog|DeiG> overall, small price IMO
<Drog|DeiG> we have a treaty
<herc2> 1
<DBTS^gov> 2
<Drog|DeiG> 1
<GT^Commis> 2
* Mania^gov 2
<Drog|DeiG> damn :(
<DBTS^gov> that is refuse :D
<GT^Commis> Nothing ahppened except for her complaining a bit.
<Drog|DeiG> but we give to morgan
<Mania^gov> :)
<Drog|DeiG> :sulk:
<DBTS^gov> morgan is on our land
<herc2> send flowers
<DBTS^gov> ask for pact
<Drog|DeiG> she is powerful
<Drog|DeiG> not yet
<GT^Commis> Ok, now, we want a PAct, don't we?
<Drog|DeiG> go for pacts once we have green
<Mania^gov> won't work unless we're green
<DBTS^gov> pact will work i think
<Drog|DeiG> if wed given it, then yes, but now, no
<Mania^gov> indeed - don't try earlier
<GT^Commis> Adam said to gof ro a Pact anyway.
<Drog|DeiG> ok, try then
<DBTS^gov> listen to adam
<herc2> don't try
<DBTS^gov> try :doitnow!:
<Drog|DeiG> do what he says, hes DSE
<GT^Commis> She refused, but ti doesn't seem to have had any negative effects.
<Drog|DeiG> ok
<Drog|DeiG> what state is she at/
<DBTS^gov> ok better luck next time
<Drog|DeiG> ?
<GT^Commis> Now, on to miriam.
<herc2> should have given
<DBTS^gov> planetary councel yay
<Drog|DeiG> planetary council without Adam?
<Mania^gov> No use waiting.
<DBTS^gov> no next session with orders from adam
<GT^Commis> He gave orders on that too.
<herc2> I don't think he argue
<DBTS^gov> oh ok then plan councel
<DBTS^gov> `but first miriam
<GT^Commis> Anywya, with Morgan, we have an absolute majority.
<GT^Commis> Well, Miriam's seething.
<GT^Commis> Not a good start.
<DBTS^gov> :(
<GT^Commis> She wants us to attack the University.
<Drog|DeiG> Sod her then
<herc2> expected that 
<GT^Commis> No way.
<DBTS^gov> no
<herc2> no
<Drog|DeiG> no
<Mania^gov> err... no?
<DBTS^gov> lol
<GT^Commis> Now she wants superconductor.
<GT^Commis> bullcrap.
<herc2> no
<DBTS^gov> no
<GT^Commis> Ok, we can now:
<GT^Commis> 1) Ask her to stop attackin gthe Uni.
<GT^Commis> 2) Try for a treaty.
<herc2> 2
<DBTS^gov> 2
<GT^Commis> 2
<Drog|DeiG> neither
<DBTS^gov> treaty will give of commerce
<GT^Commis> Well, she (predictably) refused, and ended the conversation.
<GT^Commis> On to the Council.
<DBTS^gov> petty
<DBTS^gov> yay
<Drog|DeiG> Yay :D
<GT^Commis> Okay, no need for bribes here.
<DBTS^gov> then dont who votes for yang?
<GT^Commis> Yang voted for himself, Morgan for us, and no-one else gives a damn either way.
<DBTS^gov> :b:
<GT^Commis> So, we win.
<DBTS^gov> yay :dance:
<Drog|DeiG> :b: yay
<GT^Commis> I never thought I'd find a use for the Governor's automatic infiltration.
<GT^Commis> Now we can look through Miriam's intelligence files without using a probe.
<DBTS^gov> lol lets look in to deirdes bathroom.....eh oh yes of cour miriam intell files
<herc2> mass chhering acrrosss faction
<DBTS^gov> we will lose them if we dont say plan gov
<herc2> cheering
<DBTS^gov> stay
<DBTS^gov> ok what next?
<GT^Commis> Okay, it seems she is on the Isle of Deianira, and most of her bases are sea bases.
<DBTS^gov> ok herc lets build up the fleets :evilgrin:
<GT^Commis> btw, our income just sky-rocketed.
<GT^Commis> From all the extra commerce.
<DBTS^gov> yes commerce +1 
<DBTS^gov> that is a lot will get the tech much sooner now
<Drog|DeiG> :dance:
<herc2> well lets build defence and defensive navy base and the odd attacking unit
<Drog|DeiG> I concur
<herc2> what did we get from Yang again?
<Drog|DeiG> my absolute pacifism extends only to the reasonable :kill:
<DBTS^gov> lol
<DBTS^gov> ok GT where are we in time and stuff
<GT^Commis> Ok, we have a problem from Voltaire: He wants to switch the transport foil in NS to rec commons.
<herc2> also bye the way who's recording the turnchat. Did I miss that decision. Or can it be recorded in chunks
<GT^Commis> DBTS: still 2222.
<GT^Commis> Herc: Me, Maniac or DBTs.
<DBTS^gov> i can record it
<Drog|DeiG> But it has only 1 turn left GT?
<DBTS^gov> GT tanks
<DBTS^gov> does he give a reason?
<GT^Commis> Drogue: yes. And we've been waiting for it for ages.
<Drog|DeiG> I no, I ordered it ages ago
<GT^Commis> DBTS: No.
<GT^Commis> So, let's vote on overriding it.
<Drog|DeiG> I think TKGs will overrides Voltaires, but if you want to change, we have at least infiltrated the 
  university
<herc2> with all that income
<GT^Commis> 1 = override, 2 = don't.
<DBTS^gov> 3
<Drog|DeiG> 2
<Drog|DeiG> sorry 1
<herc2> 2
<Drog|DeiG> transport
<GT^Commis> 1
<GT^Commis> Tie.
<GT^Commis> Or not.
<Mania^gov> I haven't got a clue what you're taking about. Ignore me. :)
<Drog|DeiG> no, 2 for 1, 1 for 2
<GT^Commis> Repoll.
<DBTS^gov> 3
<Drog|DeiG> override what?
<herc2> i would like transport
<Drog|DeiG> original or voltaire?
<GT^Commis> 1 = Stay as transport, 2 = switch tor ec commons, 3 = abstain.
<DBTS^gov> 3
<herc2> 1
<Drog|DeiG> 1
<Mania^gov> with one turn still to go for the transport?? 1
<DBTS^gov> passed 
<GT^Commis> 1.
<herc2> DBTS will you record
<DBTS^gov> i try
<herc2> back in 5
<Mania^gov> Damn I thought I was logging already for an hour, but I can't find the file. :-(
<DBTS^gov> i log afterward
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<Mania^gov> What year are we btw?
<DBTS^gov> 2222
<GT^Commis> still 2222.
<Mania^gov> wow
<GT^Commis> All that diplomatic stuff and polling took a while.
<Mania^gov> Indeed
<GT^Commis> Drogue: the crawler SW of NT is convoying minerals, not nutrients. Which crawler do you want to move?
<Drog|DeiG> There is too there
<Drog|DeiG> two*
<Drog|DeiG> the one crawling nutrients, on the square I gave
<Drog|DeiG> the directions are only to show which part of the map, the reference is what I would go by
<Drog|DeiG> on the square with the farm/solar
<Drog|DeiG> where the worker is to be moved too
<GT^Commis> Ah, just noticed it.
<Drog|DeiG> Thanks
<Drog|DeiG> On Voltaires orders, he wanted to complete the (23,105) terraforming before he let me use it, but why 
  does he want a farm there, it isnt inside a base area
<GT^Commis> 2222 complete.
<DBTS^gov> :S just let him be
<DBTS^gov> yay
<Drog|DeiG> yay
<herc2> yay
<DBTS^gov> we are in 2223 yay again! right?
<DBTS^gov> what has happend?
<GT^Commis> nothing catastrophic.
<DBTS^gov> yay
<Drog|DeiG> anything??
<GT^Commis> Between turns? Some forest expanded, that's all.
<GT^Commis> And the worms near TA still aren't moving.
<GT^Commis> I think we've pinned them down for now.
<Drog|DeiG> Hmmm but they can attack crawlers right?
<DBTS^gov> they have trance so no biggy
<GT^Commis> No.
<GT^Commis> The crawlers nearby have armour & trance, like DBTS said.
<GT^Commis> And we're moving some more troops into position to finsih them off.
<herc2> re moves: what about some of those other foils
<GT^Commis> We just infiltrated the uni, and it seems they've given up on the Empath Guild.
<DBTS^gov> yay
<Drog|DeiG> big yay :D
<Drog|DeiG> start building it as soonn as we can
<Drog|DeiG> trade for techs?
<Drog|DeiG> they have orders herc
<herc2> the probes have bur the laser
<herc2> but*
<GT^Commis> Zakh has CE and Advanced Miltiary Algorithms.
<Mania^gov> Why the Empath Guild. We've got infiltration on everyone, and we have enough votes on our own.
<GT^Commis> Contact him & ask to trade?
<herc2> ys
<DBTS^gov> es
<GT^Commis> Maniac: So we can win more easily, and to keep anyone else from getting it.
<DBTS^gov> yes to talk 
<GT^Commis> He wants us to attack the Beleivers.
<DBTS^gov> THE aurillion province would be honoured to build such a project
<DBTS^gov> say no
<herc2> not surprised but no
<GT^Commis> He wants us to give him nonliner mathematics; we can ask for AAA in return.
<Drog|DeiG> say yes
<Drog|DeiG> i thought we werre at war already?
<Drog|DeiG> ask for it
<GT^Commis> with Miriam? No.
<GT^Commis> He says he can't trust us with it.
<Drog|DeiG> and were seething with the believers, we'll be at war very soon, whatever we do
<herc2> good swap
<GT^Commis> He refused.
<Drog|DeiG> then say no
<Drog|DeiG> freedom of information and all
<GT^Commis> :confused:
<GT^Commis> He just declared war, for some strange reason.
<Drog|DeiG> oh he'slike that
<Drog|DeiG> he'll calm down soon
<GT^Commis> Now, about Cyclops: we were going to build it at 9,117, weren't we?
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<GT^Commis> Ok.
<GT^Commis> DBTS: About the EG, I've already got plans to build it in TA.
<DBTS^gov> cool just build the best base i ever build 2 mineral bonuses 1 enegry bonus 1 nutrient bonus river and 
  a monolith...yay more me
<GT^Commis> It will be built faster there.
<DBTS^gov> oh ok
<Drog|DeiG> where DBTS?
<DBTS^gov> my own game
<Drog|DeiG> DBTS, isnt that in Aurillion
<Drog|DeiG> GT sorry
<Drog|DeiG> doesnt DBST have to want that?
<DBTS^gov> am i missiong something?
<Drog|DeiG> the EG
<Drog|DeiG> in TA
<GT^Commis> Eh?
<Drog|DeiG> isnt TA in Aurillion?
<DBTS^gov> TA is centralis
<Drog|DeiG> ok sorry
<Drog|DeiG> my bad
<herc2> maybe another base should have the honour
<GT^Commis> Now, NS has finally built that tansport foil, now what do we with it?
<DBTS^gov> lets debate about that on the forum
<GT^Commis> Bring along a probe to steal University tech?
<Drog|DeiG> pput the probe teams on board, and steal tech from the university
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<GT^Commis> Noth of them?
<GT^Commis> Both?
<herc2> both, but dangerous
<Drog|DeiG> yes both
<GT^Commis> Not if we're careful.
<DBTS^gov> both
<GT^Commis> Hang on, I think we should delay leaving 'till that IoD goes away.
<GT^Commis> IT's very close by.
<DBTS^gov> agreed
<herc2> yay
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<Drog|DeiG> or move around?
<herc2> it could just squeeze it
<GT^Commis> Not without being attacked next turn.
<GT^Commis> Anyway, we're now only 1 turn away from reaching Labourer's Throng.
<DBTS^gov> yay
<herc2> at last
<herc2> though to think about Labourer's thong can not be that pleasant
<DBTS^gov> :)
<GT^Commis> 2223 complete.
<GT^Commis> Okay, this is not good.
<DBTS^gov> yay again (dont have anything else to say)
<Drog|DeiG> what?? :scared:
<GT^Commis> The Hive just took Okreatia-Discovery from the Uni, mindworms have invaded near NS, and DEM is 
  rioting.
<GT^Commis> Time to rush that Node, I'd say.
<Drog|DeiG> Yes
<herc2> yes
<GT^Commis> DBTS?
<Drog|DeiG> NS??? How?? :O
<GT^Commis> Can I use some specialists tk calm the place down while they build the node?
<herc2> yes
<GT^Commis> Drogue: OF that IoD.
<GT^Commis> off
<GT^Commis> It's just worms, not the Hive.
<DBTS^gov> rush
<GT^Commis> done.
<GT^Commis> Now, can anyone find the poll on where to build those seabases?
<Drog|DeiG> Yes i no,but ti thought it could defend itself
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<GT^Commis> The first sea colony pod just got built.
<Drog|DeiG> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69367
<DBTS^gov> i has to be build in the FWsea
<DBTS^gov> there was a poll about that ones
<GT^Commis> Drogue: yes of coruse it can, but that doesn't make it good.
<Drog|DeiG> are, just invaded :phew: thought thed actually reduced pop
<GT^Commis> DBTS: I know, I wanted to know where in the FWS.
<herc2> there are to be two bases?
<Drog|DeiG> thats the poll about the bases
<Drog|DeiG> yes two bases
<Drog|DeiG> that poll GT
<GT^Commis> thanks.
<Drog|DeiG> build 1st on on brown
<GT^Commis> Well, DBTS has the honour of building the first seabase :)
<herc2> clap applause
<Drog|DeiG> yay
<Drog|DeiG> and I control it :D
<DBTS^gov> yay for me
<GT^Commis> HO, and something else: The worms near TA attacked the unit being sent to kill them, and lost.
<GT^Commis> Oh
<GT^Commis> rather
<DBTS^gov> unyay for drog :P
<herc2> party on
<herc2> the worms lost?
<herc2> lost my upgrade
<Drog|DeiG> Whats the name of the base
<Drog|DeiG> if it hasnt got one, can we call it azibi?
<Drog|DeiG> for the monent anyway
<Drog|DeiG> until we can poll
<GT^Commis> Er, Drogue, it hasn't been built yet.
<GT^Commis> It will be next turn.
<herc2> prob Metropolis or erregion
<GT^Commis> No, I still have a list of seabase names.
<GT^Commis> Does anybody remember if we decided to allow the crawler upgrade trick at the start of the game?
<Drog|DeiG> Ok, whats next on the list?
<GT^Commis> Er, my question above.
<Drog|DeiG> I would go for a no
<GT^Commis> Maniac? DBTS?
<DBTS^gov> no
<GT^Commis> No you don't remember, or no it wasn't allowed?
<herc2> no
<herc2> why dowe need it
<DBTS^gov> i say no not allowed
<Mania^gov> NO it wasn't allowed.
<GT^Commis> I have 1 more crawler than I can use outside TA, and I'm wondering if it would be allowed to cash in 
  the upgraded one for the EG.
<GT^Commis> I guess I'll just have to use it for for the next borehole :p
<Mania^gov> Anyway guys, I'm leaving. There's a movie I'm watching and it's kind of hard to divide my attention. 
  :cute:
<GT^Commis> Ok. bye.
<DBTS^gov> later
<Mania^gov> see ya
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<herc2> Ok bye
<GT^Commis> Ok, we're just about to steal tech from Labourer's Throng.
<Drog|DeiG> yay SFF :expect:
<herc2> sff
<DBTS^gov> ...?
<DBTS^gov> what is it?
<GT^Commis> SFF
<GT^Commis> :dance:
<DBTS^gov> yay
<herc2> good one
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<GT^Commis> And our probe got away & got upgraded to commando.
<GT^Commis> hi TKG.
<Drog|DeiG> TKG finally here
<Drog|DeiG> get my PM?
<DBTS^gov> now we can really kick morgans butt if we wished
<GT^Commis> We just got SFF
<TKGDIA> sorry, nope
<herc2> hi tKG
* DBTS^gov slaps TKG
<DBTS^gov> hi
* Drog|DeiG slaps TKGDIA around a bit with a large trout
<TKGDIA> i just assumed saturday
<Drog|DeiG> likewise
<DBTS^gov> i dont assume
<GT^Commis> It would have been, but we're leaving again, and I didn't want a repeat of last time that ahppened.
<TKGDIA> then i read the orders thread "is there a turnchat now, or did i read that wrong?"
<herc2> I read it carefully
<TKGDIA> and said "shit"
<GT^Commis> Anyway, now we have SFF, which means missiles and FUNGICIDE :evil:
<DBTS^gov> lol
<TKGDIA> :dance:
<TKGDIA> have we founded UNMI yet? :expect:
<GT^Commis> Not quite.
<TKGDIA> not quite?
<GT^Commis> Next turn.
<GT^Commis> Herc: Can I flame the worms outside NS?
<TKGDIA> only 1 turn played?
<Drog|DeiG> is it UNMI?
<GT^Commis> Odds are 3 to 2, in our favour.
<Drog|DeiG> not the southern one is it?
<TKGDIA> un marine institute, iirc
<TKGDIA> red first. the northern
<GT^Commis> TKG: we're in the middle of 2224.
<Drog|DeiG> OK, UNMI is nothern
<Drog|DeiG> southern I want to be azibi but i think we have to use another :(
<GT^Commis> TKG: Damn. I sent the pod to the southern one.
<TKGDIA> S S SE of NA
<GT^Commis> Hang on.
<TKGDIA> which one? brown?
<GT^Commis> Do you mean UNMI is to be northern, the first seabase is to be northern, or both?
<TKGDIA> both
<GT^Commis> The pod is at the brown one.
<TKGDIA> meh. go for it then
<GT^Commis> Herc: so can I flame the worms?
<Drog|DeiG> Yes
<GT^Commis> Herc?
* GT^Commis slaps herc over the head with a large trout.
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<Drog|DeiG> yes
<herc3> back
<DBTS^gov> just flame them already
<Drog|DeiG> Herc, attack worm or not?
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<herc3> yes
<GT^Commis> Okay, that should pay for at elast 1 of Drogue's rushes.
<Drog|DeiG> what should?
<Drog|DeiG> oh the worms
<Drog|DeiG> have you don ethat one last turn I asked?
<TKGDIA> drug had rushes? hmm i didn't see any...
<GT^Commis> Now, can I send the probe skimship that infiltrated the Uni back to steal tech?
* TKGDIA looks
<GT^Commis> TKG: He asked for some before you arrived.
<Drog|DeiG> No, you were'nt here earlier TKG
<Drog|DeiG> :p
<GT^Commis> Drogue?
<Drog|DeiG> only 40-60 odd credits
<GT^Commis> The probeship?
<TKGDIA> that's fine
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<TKGDIA> i think maniac had a rush of a net node in sheathed sword
<Drog|DeiG> did u do the rush I asked for last turn (2223)?
<TKGDIA> if i didn't approve it i meant to
<Drog|DeiG> or the one for this one?
<GT^Commis> Drogue: the CC in NT? No. I forgot. Did it this turn.
<herc3> what techs has uni got we need
<GT^Commis> Oh, and there's a pod 1 south of the other probe skimship. pop?
<GT^Commis> Herc: CE and AAA.
<Drog|DeiG> yes
<herc3> many turns left
<Drog|DeiG> yes how many turns sorry
<GT^Commis> f*cking hell.
<GT^Commis> Antoher IoD.
<Drog|DeiG> IoD?
<Drog|DeiG> oh well
<Drog|DeiG> run 
<TKGDIA> :rolleyes:
<Drog|DeiG> if we can
<TKGDIA> iods=pia
<Drog|DeiG> GT: did you do the rush for this turn.  The SC in Twin Peaks?
<GT^Commis> I thinkw e're going to need some Empath Skimships pretty soon.
<GT^Commis> Drogue: yes.
<TKGDIA> did you get the rush of net node in sheathed sword?
<TKGDIA> and i think there was a tree farm in concordia
<herc3> we need to build up the navy
<TKGDIA> pfft
<TKGDIA> ;)
<TKGDIA> concordia's not coastal anyways, but if you need the credits...
<herc3> put empath skimships and missle what evers in the design workshop
<TKGDIA> we can cut back on rushing if necessary. i just think concorida needs the tree farm, and sheathed sword 
  will riot
<TKGDIA> without net node
<GT^Commis> SS has the net node.
<GT^Commis> It's already been rushed.
<Drog|DeiG> We already voted for the concordian tree farm too
<Drog|DeiG> yes, been doen
<TKGDIA> :relief:
<GT^Commis> Oh, and soemthing else you aren't aware of: we're Planetary Governor.
<TKGDIA> i thought i approved it, but i guess i didn't
<TKGDIA> oh goodie
<GT^Commis> Commerce just about doubled our income.
<TKGDIA> infiltrators :evil:
<TKGDIA> oh and income...;)
<herc3> what tech does uni have that we need
<Drog|DeiG> CE
<GT^Commis> Herc: I told you, CE and AAA.
<herc3> sorry missed it
<TKGDIA> AAA=g0od
<DBTS^gov> slap me if needed
<TKGDIA> ...
* TKGDIA slaps DBTS around a bit with a large bunny
* Drog|DeiG slaps TKGDIA around a bit with a large trout
<Drog|DeiG> for the sheer hell of it
<Drog|DeiG> :p
* TKGDIA shrugs
<GT^Commis> f*ck.
<TKGDIA> what now
<Drog|DeiG> :scared:
<GT^Commis> I just tried to move one of Manaic's former N intot he fungus, and worms popped up.
<TKGDIA> un-yay
<GT^Commis> Can I upgrade it to armour + trance?
<DBTS^gov> wormS like in plurar?
<GT^Commis> no, singluar.
<Drog|DeiG> just trance needed?
<herc3> ys
<Drog|DeiG> why armour?
<GT^Commis> no, it needs armour AND trance.
<GT^Commis> It's non-combat unless armoured.
<Drog|DeiG> ok, synthmetal then
<GT^Commis> TKG? Herc?
<TKGDIA> oo, clever :D
<Drog|DeiG> but Scout patrols are unarmoured and combat?
<TKGDIA> erm what?
<herc3> whatever it takes
<TKGDIA> why not just move it away?
<TKGDIA> scout partols are attack units drug
<TKGDIA> kinda
<GT^Commis> Drogue: Yes, but they have guns.
<GT^Commis> TKG: because there's another former there with no movement.
<Drog|DeiG> armour+t then
<herc3> go for it
<TKGDIA> ah
<TKGDIA> sure, how much is it? not too much i hope
<GT^Commis> btw, what should be done wit the extra police infantry in Pandemonium?
<TKGDIA> 20? 30?
<GT^Commis> TKG: 70.
<TKGDIA> :eek:
<TKGDIA> what do you mean, "extra"
<GT^Commis> MAniac order the building of two more, in addition to the one already there.
<GT^Commis> ordered.
<TKGDIA> send it to sheathed sword and have it escort the pods from there soon
<GT^Commis> oops, it's in Sheathed Sword.
<GT^Commis> alreayd.
<Drog|DeiG> GT: no idea
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<GT^Commis> I got them mixed up.
<GT^Commis> Oh well, cans till be done.
* Drog|DeiG is now known as Drg|DEI|G
<GT^Commis> 2224 complete.
<Drg|DEI|G> gd gd
<GT^Commis> Some bad news: ZG is suffering from climatic variances and gets - nut per square for 10 years.
<GT^Commis> -1.
<Drg|DEI|G> is it starving?
<DBTS^gov> damn
<DBTS^gov> it also had the blblaa virus
<GT^Commis> don't know, haven't chacked.
<GT^Commis> DBTS: That place is cursed.
<DBTS^gov> if not just let it be for now
<DBTS^gov> :(
<GT^Commis> Okay, another problem: Concordia is rioting.
<GT^Commis> I'm using a doctor for now.
<Drg|DEI|G> gd idea
<GT^Commis> Also, we've had another worm invasion near NS.
<Drg|DEI|G> oh well, lets get an empath or two built and over there
<GT^Commis> Oh, and NT is now riotiung as well.
<herc3> I agree
<GT^Commis> And DBTS, ZG IS starving.
<Drg|DEI|G> really, it had a talent and no drones last turn :O
<Drg|DEI|G> has it got 4 people now?
<GT^Commis> yes.
<GT^Commis> use doctor?
<herc3> you asking me
<Drg|DEI|G> use a doctor
<Drg|DEI|G> do we have the virtual world?
<DBTS^gov> about ZG can you deuse a doctor?
<Drg|DEI|G> if so put net node next, before Tree Farm.
<GT^Commis> DBTS: No, they're workers, but I can move some onto the Kelp farms.
<herc3> do that
<GT^Commis> That wook care of matters.
<DBTS^gov> ok
<GT^Commis> Now we have a surplus again.
<Drg|DEI|G> Do we ahve the virtual world???
<DBTS^gov> no i think
<GT^Commis> Yes we do.
<GT^Commis> Why?
<herc3> No we don't 
<GT^Commis> What? Of course we do.
<GT^Commis> In NA.
<Drg|DEI|G> then build a net node in NT ASAP
<Drg|DEI|G> rush it if possible
<GT^Commis> Switch from Tree Farm?
<Drg|DEI|G> then put tree farm top of build queue
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<GT^Commis> Ok.
<Drg|DEI|G> how much to rush?
<GT^Commis> Cyclops just got built, btw.
<GT^Commis> Drogue: dunno, still have to check.
<DBTS^gov> yay
<herc3> re VW stand corrected
<Drg|DEI|G> :D
<GT^Commis> Drogue: way too much. Wait for another turn or two.
<herc3> happy days
<Drg|DEI|G> Ok,next turn if possible
<GT^Commis> The road to Twin Peaks just got finished, now what to with the crawler there?
<GT^Commis> Drogue?
<herc3> explore south
* GT^Commis slaps Drogue over the ehad with a large trout
<Drg|DEI|G> sorry
<herc3> do you mean former
<Drg|DEI|G> crawler?
<Drg|DEI|G> it has orders
<Drg|DEI|G> wait a sec, lemme find them
<GT^Commis> hang, on I've got them.
<Drg|DEI|G> Aurora Former (21,109) SE of Aurora, building road to Twin Peaks
<Drg|DEI|G> - Finish road to Twin Peaks
<Drg|DEI|G> - Move to (21,113)
<Drg|DEI|G> - Plant Forest
<GT^Commis> what?
<GT^Commis> oh well.
<Drg|DEI|G> orders
<Drg|DEI|G> why?
<GT^Commis> They're different form the ones I have.
<Drg|DEI|G> really?
<Drg|DEI|G> what have you got?
<GT^Commis> Oh hang on, you're talking about the former. I'm talking about the crawler.
<Drg|DEI|G> what crawler?
<Drg|DEI|G> near twin peaks?
<Drg|DEI|G> the one we built?
<Drg|DEI|G> Twin Peaks Crawler (in Twin Peaks), to be built
<Drg|DEI|G> - Move to (20, 112)
<Drg|DEI|G> - Convoy Nutrients
<GT^Commis> Yes, I've got that.
<Drg|DEI|G> ok, sorry :cute:
<herc3> understand now
<Drg|DEI|G> brb (need a drink
<DBTS^gov> guys you still need my help me pretty tired and stuff....
<GT^Commis> We may, we may not, but if you need to go, go.
<GT^Commis> btw, we've just started Planet's first borehole near NA.
<DBTS^gov> ok good luck all.....finally i can close my eyes....who loges?
<DBTS^gov> logs?
<GT^Commis> Me.
<DBTS^gov> yay to borehole
<DBTS^gov> ok bye bye all
<herc3> you
<GT^Commis> I've got all the records of the chat proper.
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<Drg|DEI|G> I'm back
<GT^Commis> Ok, Herc, we have a problem: Two more worms outside NS, and the scout partol is damaged.
<GT^Commis> Our odds of beating it are only just better than 50%.
<GT^Commis> 81-80, in our favour.
<herc3> can we do the upgrade trance routine to any effect
<herc3> can we buy time
<herc3> against one I assume
<GT^Commis> Our odds don''t improve any if we do that, and we have to fight twice.
<GT^Commis> there are toww orms.
<GT^Commis> two worms.
<GT^Commis> I say we just take the risk and attack.
<Drg|DEI|G> I concur
<herc3> what do you think go for one but that will leave us weakened
<GT^Commis> If we kill one, we kill both.
<herc3> go for it
<GT^Commis> We won.
<Drg|DEI|G> :D
<herc3> happy days
<GT^Commis> Ok, now what to with the probe that just stole from the Hive?
<herc3> where is it now
<GT^Commis> TBIBTU.
<Drg|DEI|G> have we explored the isles to the eeast of TBIBTU?
<GT^Commis> The island witht he land bridge? yes.
<herc3> head east but north of the isalnd
<herc3> peninsula island thingy
<Drg|DEI|G> I'd say steal tech from the university
<Drg|DEI|G> we then get CE and AAA :expect: :D
<GT^Commis> We have 2 other probe foils that are much closer, though.
<herc3> its a while away but ok
<Drg|DEI|G> 2 others?
<GT^Commis> yes, 2.
<Drg|DEI|G> Then lets steal their world map too
<GT^Commis> Ok.
<GT^Commis> Uh oh.
<Drg|DEI|G> what?
<GT^Commis> Yang is researching D:AP and will have it in 8 years.
<GT^Commis> We can steal it, or we cna beat him to it.
<GT^Commis> If we start after CE.
<GT^Commis> Which we'll get next turn.
<herc3> so how far away are we from D:Ap
<GT^Commis> If we start next turn, 6, so we'll beat him by 1.
<Drg|DEI|G> steal, and send one probe to him to assassinate researchers if we can do that yet
<Drg|DEI|G> sorry, research,a dn assass researchers
<herc3> I agrree
<Drg|DEI|G> dont steal it
<GT^Commis> Can't, the Hive isn't on the coast.
<GT^Commis> However, the quesion is, can we override Adam's orders?
<Drg|DEI|G> and it needs to be a capitol?
<Drg|DEI|G> adams orders to do what>
<Drg|DEI|G> ?
<Drg|DEI|G> we need a new poll, it wasnt available before
<GT^Commis> To research Doctrine:Initiave in this situation.
<GT^Commis> And, yes, you can only assassinate researcher sin the HQ.
<GT^Commis> Anyway, I would say, that, yes, we can override it in a case like this.
<GT^Commis> Incidentally, has anyone noticed that Concordia is actually built on a rocky square?
<Drg|DEI|G> I would abstain, I'm not sure, although I think people would vote for it si have no problem withit
<herc3> So whats the question
<Drg|DEI|G> ok, send the transport with the probe teams on, to the Hive, and assassinate researchers, and use 
  both lanmd probe teams at hive bases.  Send all 3 probe foils to the university
<herc3> Thats aggresive for a peace loving guy
<herc3> before my time
<GT^Commis> Thing is, we can't get out of NS, because there's another IoD there, making two, and we'd be sunk.
<GT^Commis> So we need an Empath Foil before we get out.
<GT^Commis> I can make one in nTBIBTU, but that will take time.
<Drg|DEI|G> before mine too
<Drg|DEI|G> Herc: The people asked for a covert war against the hive, and ti is what they shall get
<herc3> againast the hive  yea against the uni n ot sure
<Drg|DEI|G> Im not attackingthe uni, Im stealing their techs, because they refused to trade, and we are at war
<Drg|DEI|G> the people said if we are at war, use all force, and stealing tech does not result in violence, so is 
  not against my pacifism
<GT^Commis> Okay, the western laser foil has found a pod in the fungus. pop?
<Drg|DEI|G> yep
<GT^Commis> :cool:
<GT^Commis> Sonar pod.
<Drg|DEI|G> :expect:
<herc3> turns left
<Drg|DEI|G> cool
<Drg|DEI|G> anything interesting?
<GT^Commis> Spotted another pod nearby, but nothing else.
<Drg|DEI|G> Hmmm, en route or off?
<GT^Commis> off.
<Drg|DEI|G> leave it then
<GT^Commis> 2225 compelte, and I need to go to the toilet.
<GT^Commis> brb
<herc3> request empath foil
<GT^Commis> Where?
<GT^Commis> I'm planning to build one in TBIBTU ASAP.
<GT^Commis> Ok, we just got CE.
<herc3> top?
<Drg|DEI|G> stolen or researched?
<GT^Commis> researched.
<GT^Commis> we're not close enough to the Uni to steal.
<Drg|DEI|G> ok
<GT^Commis> f*ck.
<Drg|DEI|G> what?
<Drg|DEI|G> :veryscared:
<GT^Commis> D:AP isn't on the list for next tech.
<GT^Commis> I guess we'll have to steal it.
<GT^Commis> So, no assassination mission in the Hive.
<herc3> noby has it
<GT^Commis> The Hive will, soon.
<Drg|DEI|G> why not just change research
<herc3> nobody*
<Drg|DEI|G> imsure people would want to
<GT^Commis> That won't help; we get the same list.
<Drg|DEI|G> same list?
<GT^Commis> Unless we steal AAA, then try switching.
<GT^Commis> Sam elist of techs to research.
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<Drg|DEI|G> still assasssinate research
<Drg|DEI|G> ers
<GT^Commis> Ok, we'll see.
<Drg|DEI|G> its more important that the hive doesnt get it
<Drg|DEI|G> and please move the transport, NW is you have to to get around the IoD
<Drg|DEI|G> but we need to get there before they research it
<GT^Commis> Well, I can't see the IoDs any more, so I'll risk it.
<herc3> we also ned to trade  quickly in case some friends have discovered tech
<GT^Commis> I'm dropping the probes off on the shore enarby, just in case.
<GT^Commis> Herc: nope, nobody has it.
<herc3> job for DoS
<herc3> re transport go with drogue
<GT^Commis> Drogue, are you sure you want the Twin Peaks former to crawl nuts from 20,122? There's only 1 nut 
  there.
<Drg|DEI|G> there wont be soon, have a former en route
<GT^Commis> Ok.
<GT^Commis> What should be done with the two southern scout petaols? They've just been wandering around aimlessly.
<GT^Commis> patrols.
<herc3> what happened to TKG
<herc3> anybody recording this
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<Drogue> sorry, d/c
<GT^Commis> Herc: He left.
<GT^Commis> And I'm recording this.
<herc3> good
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<Drogue> GT?
<Drogue> Herc?
<herc3> yes
<GT^Commis> Yes?
<Drogue> Ok, I am in here
<Drogue> sorry, thought you couldn't hear me
* Drogue is now known as Drg|DEI|G
<GT^Commis> One of our probe foils has spotted a pod.
<GT^Commis> One of the eastern ones.
<GT^Commis> Pop?
<GT^Commis> Drogue?
<GT^Commis> Hello?
* GT^Commis slaps Drogue
-> [Drg|DEI|G] PING
<herc3> you have a wonderful way with names 
<Drg|DEI|G> me?
<Drg|DEI|G> lol
<Drg|DEI|G> I cant get Drogue and DEI and Gov on
<Drg|DEI|G> GT: Have you done the former for the place where the crawler in Twin Peaks is going
<herc3> moves?
<Drg|DEI|G> if it has moves left
<Drg|DEI|G> Im here, one of us had lag
<GT^Commis> Re: the former - it's ont he way.
<Drg|DEI|G> thanks
<GT^Commis> The probe has 3 moves left.
<Drg|DEI|G> pop it
<herc3> go
<GT^Commis> Ok.
<GT^Commis> IT got swept away by a tidal wave, and ended up a lot neaer to the Uni than it was.
<Drg|DEI|G> :yay:
<Drg|DEI|G> lucky
<GT^Commis> It should arrive next turn.
<herc3> smile
<GT^Commis> Okay, now anothe rone of the probes has found a pod, but it's in the fungus and it'd have no moves 
  left if it opened it.
<herc3> careful
<GT^Commis> Also, we're just about to build UN MArine Institute
<Drg|DEI|G> the northern one?
<GT^Commis> Yes.
<Drg|DEI|G> ok
<GT^Commis> northern base.
<GT^Commis> Now, should we pop the other pod or not?
<herc3> wait
<Drg|DEI|G> which probe?
<GT^Commis> The pod's on 42,82, the probe is 1 south.
<Drg|DEI|G> where is that, I cant have the game open and mIRC?
<Drg|DEI|G> east?
<Drg|DEI|G> near what base?
<GT^Commis> Near Mendelev Colelge.
<GT^Commis> College.
<Drg|DEI|G> dont pop
<GT^Commis> The base we're going to steal from.
<Drg|DEI|G> wait
<GT^Commis> I'd say don't pop.
<GT^Commis> Well?
<Drg|DEI|G> sorry, didnt u get the message?<Drg|DEI|G> dont pop
<Drg|DEI|G> <Drg|DEI|G> wait
<Drg|DEI|G> wait till next turn
<GT^Commis> oh, ok.
<GT^Commis> Though you meant you'd changed your mind.
<herc3> wait
<Drg|DEI|G> sorr, no, better to wait
<GT^Commis> Okay, we just stole the Spartan world map at BRC, but unfortunately we lost the probe.
<GT^Commis> Now, we need to figure our what to do with the two colony pods being by in SS. One of them's done 
  already.
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<TKGDIA> still here. good
<Drg|DEI|G> hey TJG
<TKGDIA> ey drug
<Drg|DEI|G> TKG*
<TKGDIA> whats going on now
<Drg|DEI|G> Sheathed Sword GT?
<Drg|DEI|G> colony pods in SS
<TKGDIA> shit
<TKGDIA> gtg again
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<GT^Commis> Oh, you're back.
<GT^Commis> f*cking hell.
<GT^Commis> I think it can wit until alter.
<GT^Commis> later.
<GT^Commis> 2226 complete
<GT^Commis> :eek:
<GT^Commis> The Hive just captured University Base.
<GT^Commis> Anf NT just Drone Rioted again.
<GT^Commis> And
<GT^Commis> I used another doctor and I'm rushing the Node.
<Drg|DEI|G> thanks
<GT^Commis> Ok, one of the southern scout patrols just encountered a worm in the fungus (you still haven't tolf 
  me what to do with them)
<herc3> Re Someone has to inform the next of kin. These were brave boys
<GT^Commis> the probe team?
<Drg|DEI|G> i posted orders for them
<Drg|DEI|G> Scout Patrol[s]: Are they both mine? First Scout Patrol to explore South of Twin Peaks, the 
  unexplored area. Second Scout Patrol to fortify new base about to be built, near it.
<GT^Commis> really? I don't have them. They've pretty mcuh finished exploring down south anyway.
<GT^Commis> Oh, thanks.
<GT^Commis> Now, should it attack the worm?
<GT^Commis> odds are 15 to 8 in our favour.
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<herc3> I thought opinion was yes
<GT^Commis> We won, got taken down to 70% health.
<Drg|DEI|G> thats good :D
<GT^Commis> Ok, the pod we just popped contained some some kelp farms.
<Drg|DEI|G> thats ok then
<herc3> Do you know with STEP here we have powerful infuence
<herc3> influence*
<GT^Commis> :eek:
<Drg|DEI|G> i no
<Drg|DEI|G> its great isnt it :D
<GT^Commis> The University si researching Fusion Power.
<Drg|DEI|G> and we control all non forming units
<Drg|DEI|G> ok, well steal it
<Drg|DEI|G> he has crap probes
<GT^Commis> He's researching, it he doesn't have it.
<GT^Commis> Anyway, we're about to steal something.
<Drg|DEI|G> yes, so we can leave a probe near one of his bases, to steal it as soon as he does
<herc3> yes
<GT^Commis> Ok, we got Presentient Algorithms (before AAA), but we lost the probe.
<Drg|DEI|G> thats ok i guess
<herc3> it helps
<herc3> the P Algor thag is
<GT^Commis> Ok, so we need to start working on the HSA.
<Drg|DEI|G> ASAP!
<GT^Commis> I'll put TA on it, and have NA built the EG.
<herc3> yes
<Drg|DEI|G> Sounds good
<GT^Commis> Okay, the western foil has spotted another pod just south of it, near Cape Storm. Pop?
<Drg|DEI|G> probe or non probe?
<Drg|DEI|G> moves?
<GT^Commis> lasrer foil, 4 moves.
<herc3> If you get a chance  do you want to rename some areas/regions as per polls
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<Drg|DEI|G> pop
<GT^Commis> Another sonar pod, and it revealed a Spartan impact foil.
<GT^Commis> 4-2-4
<herc3> that the laser foil in te funus
<Drg|DEI|G> where?
<GT^Commis> S-SE
<herc3> the fungus*
<GT^Commis> S-Sw, sorry
<GT^Commis> No, the Sprtan foil isn't in the fungus, but our one is.
<GT^Commis> Ithink we should run.
<Drg|DEI|G> leav eit there then, hope they dont se us
<Drg|DEI|G> or run?
<Drg|DEI|G> or dodge around?
<herc3> dodge
<GT^Commis> Well, we could do the old emergyency upgrade routine.
<GT^Commis> Oops, no, we can't.
<GT^Commis> If we live until next turn we can.
<herc3> worked before Hoew much?
<Drg|DEI|G> run then
<GT^Commis> Don't know, can't test it yet.
<Drg|DEI|G> dodge later
<GT^Commis> I say we move 1 square N and hope they don't see us.
<GT^Commis> We can't upgrade, we've moved.
<herc3> Ok
<Drg|DEI|G> ok
<GT^Commis> 227 complete
<GT^Commis> sorry, 2227 complete
<GT^Commis> Man, the University are really getting their butts kicked.
<Drg|DEI|G> nasty
<Drg|DEI|G> should we talk to them, se if they wneed help?
<GT^Commis> They just lost Keppernigk Observatory, too.
<GT^Commis> I'll try.
<GT^Commis> At the very least, see if we can get some tech from them before they're annihilated.
<GT^Commis> Also, there are more mindworms north of DEM.
<GT^Commis> Attack?
<GT^Commis> the odds are 3-2 in our favour.
<GT^Commis> Herc?
<GT^Commis> Hello?
<GT^Commis> Ok, talking to Zakh, he want sus to attack Miriam again, I say no.
<herc3> talk to them 
<herc3> I presume it's to yang
<GT^Commis> Now he wants Nonlinear Mathematics.
<GT^Commis> What?
<GT^Commis> I'm talking to Zakharov.
<Drg|DEI|G> the university war
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<herc3> 3 to 2 go for it
<Drg|DEI|G> i would say give him it
<GT^Commis> Why?
<Drg|DEI|G> hecr has lag
<GT^Commis> It won't help him, he already has Gatling.
<Drg|DEI|G> because itll help him against Yang
<Drg|DEI|G> we dont want yang to annialate him
<GT^Commis> No, it won't, he already has gatling.
<GT^Commis> Give it, or not?
<GT^Commis> The hell. I'll refuse.
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<TKGDIA> :dizzy:
<GT^Commis> Back again, I see?
<GT^Commis> We're talking to Zakh.
<GT^Commis> Were you here when he declared war?
<GT^Commis> He wants a Truce.
<TKGDIA> :eek: and no
<TKGDIA> sure. was it because we're still in wealth?
<GT^Commis> No.
<Drg|DEI|G> Impact could help a lot
<TKGDIA> :relief:
<GT^Commis> We refused to give him Nonlinear Mthematics.
<GT^Commis> Drogue: As I keep saying, no, it wouldn't because HE ALREADY HAS GATLING.
<TKGDIA> give him nonmath then
<GT^Commis> Anyway, shoudl we try for a Treaty with him?
<GT^Commis> TKG: WHY!?!?!? IT WON'T HELP.
<TKGDIA> sure, why not
<Drg|DEI|G> and were stealing from him, its almost justified
<Drg|DEI|G> then itll help him gte chaos
<Drg|DEI|G> we need allies, especially ones at war with yang
<herc3> I am abit lost as to where we are
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<Drg|DEI|G> nonlinear maths to zak, yea or nay?
<Drg|DEI|G> dont u have to go with majority?
<Drg|DEI|G> TKG
<Drg|DEI|G> we;;, GT refused
<Drg|DEI|G> I said give it
<Drg|DEI|G> i know he hasd
<Drg|DEI|G> thats not a reason not to give it, friendship
<Drg|DEI|G> yes
<TKGDIA> flud
<GT^Commis> EH?
<Drg|DEI|G> no need from caps GT
<GT^Commis> Okay, vote.
<GT^Commis> 1 = give it, 2 = don't, 3 = abstian.
<Drg|DEI|G> herc you hear?
<Drg|DEI|G> 1
<TKGDIA> well, would it helpp?
<GT^Commis> 3
<herc3> 1
<TKGDIA> for anything, at all?
<GT^Commis> TKG: No. He has better weapons already.
<Drg|DEI|G> for truce
<TKGDIA> i mean, what purpose would it serve
<Drg|DEI|G> friendship
<TKGDIA> sure then
<GT^Commis> Drogue: We have Truce alreayd.
<Drg|DEI|G> and its another tech, towards militry techs
<TKGDIA> erm 1
<Drg|DEI|G> which will help in in the future
<Drg|DEI|G> he is beign annialated by yang
<Drg|DEI|G> so we give it
<GT^Commis> I tried for a Treaty, he refused, and then cut the contact.
<GT^Commis> So we can't give it.
<GT^Commis> Maybe next time.
<herc3> next time
<Drg|DEI|G> did u offer it for treaty?
<Drg|DEI|G> oh well
<Drg|DEI|G> next time
<Drg|DEI|G> what's up next?
<GT^Commis> I offered him tech, he just said no.
<Drg|DEI|G> ok
<GT^Commis> And I think the Uni is going to lose New Arzamas next turn.
<GT^Commis> They have 1 unit in it, and there are hordes of Hive troops outside.
<herc3> we' ll see next turn
<GT^Commis> TKG: Where shoudl the Sheathed Sword pods go?
<TKGDIA> 14, 54 IIRC
<TKGDIA> and 19.59
<GT^Commis> Thanks.
<herc3> Is my request for a Plasma sentinel on there
<GT^Commis> Where?
<TKGDIA> where
<GT^Commis> Sheathed Sword?
<herc3> Sheathed sword
<TKGDIA> didn't we have a leftover from pandemonium move there?
<herc3> ok if so
<GT^Commis> There's a 1-2t-2 unit there, if that's what you mena.
<TKGDIA> uhm earlier you said there were 3 units in pandemonium
<TKGDIA> and asked what we should do with the "extras"
<GT^Commis> Seathed Sword, not PAndemonium.
<GT^Commis> Oh f*ck.
<GT^Commis> IT's launchtime here.
<GT^Commis> lunchtime, sorry.
* TKGDIA shrugs
<GT^Commis> Do any of you need to go soon?
<GT^Commis> Or can you wait for a bit?
<GT^Commis> If you need to go, go now.
* GT^Commis is now known as GT^AFK
<TKGDIA> i can stay i guess...then again, it's not like 2 am...
<Drg|DEI|G> Id better go, its afer 2 in the morning
<TKGDIA> as it is (if i'm not incorrect) for drug and herc
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<Drg|DEI|G> I guess ill go, icant wait for too long
<Drg|DEI|G> Ill have a look at the og when posted
<TKGDIA> ok
<TKGDIA> later
<Drg|DEI|G> remind GT to rush the net node in NT (drone riots) if he hasnt already
<TKGDIA> i'll stay for a bit, see if he comes back
<TKGDIA> after he's finished eating launch :D
<Drg|DEI|G> and to rush the supply crawler in Aurora if he hasnt already
<TKGDIA> gotch
<TKGDIA> a
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<herc2> back again
<TKGDIA> you know, we should really do this on the poly server
<Drg|DEI|G> we should
<herc2> somebody still recording?
<Drg|DEI|G> bye all
<TKGDIA> for one, there's chanserv and nickserv, and you can make longer names too
<TKGDIA> later drug
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<TKGDIA> i'll record
<herc2> long way to go 
* TKGDIA tries to figure out how the hell you log...
* GT^AFK is now known as GT^Commis
<GT^Commis> Ok, I'm back for now.
<herc2> waht  year are we at 
<GT^Commis> 2228
<herc2> so one more
<GT^Commis> yes.
<herc2> ok
<TKGDIA> now, how to log...
<herc2> whats required re orders
<GT^Commis> TKG: go to the menu next to file, go to buffer, and click save as
<herc2> GT you wanted to leave for weekend, Go now
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<GT^Commis> Not necessary though, I'm dealing with that.
<GT^Commis> Herc: That's tommorow.
<GT^Commis> I held the chat today because of that.
<herc2> I know but there's just us 2
<GT^Commis> yeah, I suppose you're right.
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