Session Start: Tue Nov 05 15:38:51 2002 Session Ident: #civ3dem [15:38] * Now talking in #civ3dem [15:39] * E_T_Busy has joined #civ3dem [15:42] HEY! [15:42] Problem solved [15:42] I [15:43] I'm on again [15:44] hello [15:44] How are oyr MrWIA? [15:45] I think that it's kind of appropriate, I'm listening to the 1812 Overture right now...... [15:47] * Kloreep has joined #civ3dem [15:47] Hi. [15:48] * Kloreep is now known as Klor-AFK [15:49] hello [15:52] Hi guys [15:52] hello [15:53] This may be a little shorter than usual - I will need to see the fireworks if they are on in a few hours time. :D [15:53] The weather is shite, though, so they might be postponed [15:53] I'm doing some last minute things with the orders [15:53] Fireworks? [15:53] November 5th. [15:53] Yes, already. :D [15:54] What's so big about the 5th? [15:54] Guy Fawke's Day. [15:54] Oh wait - E_T - are you in some non-English country? [15:54] I didn't think they still celibrated that [15:54] USA [15:55] That might explain it - although I thought every nation with historic ties to England celebrated it. [15:55] Sunny Central Florida to be exact [15:55] tho' it's night [15:55] Australia does, NZ, South Africa, possibly the Indian subcontinent, maybe Canada...? [15:56] It's the perfect excuse for everyone to go outside, look at the sky and go "oooh: for half an hour. [15:56] * Klor-AFK is now known as Kloreep [15:56] Guy Fawke came after the Revolution, I beleave [15:56] That's the guy who tried to blow up parliament, right? :) [15:56] Yep [15:57] the original Anarchist [15:57] Yeah. That's why we celebrate him. [15:58] Better load that save.... [15:58] it's still an hour, right? [15:59] Is it? [15:59] Let me check again. [15:59] I thought it was a few minutes till. [15:59] Yeah, its 0257 GMT [16:00] I thought that it was 11EST, which is GMT-4 [16:00] I thought EST was GMT-5 [16:00] EST is - are you on EDT? [16:00] hmmm, let me doe one mor thing and post the rest of my orders, BRB [16:00] Sure. [16:01] Time difference noe, I'm on Eastern Standard Time now [16:01] Kloreep - we may delay a little since it would be best if Aggie was here for the whole thing - that was the reason for the dealy from yesterday [16:01] In that case GMT = EST + 5 [16:01] Maybe we should just use Poly server time. That should be easy enough for everyone. [16:01] Try this [16:01] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ [16:01] brb [16:02] Yeah, I figured you weren't going to start with just two other people attending. [16:02] Lessee - Poly time seems to be EST? [16:02] I'm sure it has changed at least once recently. [16:03] No rush, I guess. [16:03] I wonder why it is that Europeans, Brazilians and Israelis know GMT, but Americans and Canadians always get an hour confused somehow... [16:04] too many time changes throught the year [16:04] Just the two, surely... [16:04] Never mind - no reason starting till there are others here. [16:04] Well, I'm posted, I just hope I hAven't missed anything [16:05] With a new save or the orders updated? [16:05] Orders [16:06] I triple checked the save before I posted it. [16:06] * WIA changes topic to 'Chat waiting for enough Ministers' [16:07] * WIA changes topic to 'Chat waiting for enough Ministers - Est. 0400GMT start' [16:07] * dejon has joined #civ3dem [16:07] Downloading... [16:08] Hi dejon! [16:08] Hi dejon. [16:08] When do you think we start. [16:08] Hi [16:09] Ah, it's GMT-5. My bad [16:09] oh, I'm not sure, I just saw a post on 'poly that said someone was in here... [16:09] * E_T_Busy is now known as E_T [16:10] Hi Dejon, how are you? [16:11] ah, _very_ busy, but good. [16:11] and you? [16:11] Just finished my orders, I hope...... [16:11] I should really be studying for my exam in three days - but I'll do this first. [16:12] * Apoceva has joined #civ3dem [16:12] Hey MWIA [16:12] I hope we get a GL, and before Russia gets STC [16:12] Hi APOC! [16:12] Apoc [16:12] :) and I really should be finishing another few modules before getting some sleep (only 7 hours of sleep this weekend) [16:12] MWIA, is NGE over yet or do you have one more episode? [16:12] Hi Apoc [16:13] Apoc - it's done and I have watched EoE. [16:13] Cool :b: [16:13] Hello. [16:13] Which was more satisfying than those idiot last tow episodes (especially the 2nd to last), but still frustrating [16:13] pray tell - NGE? EoE? [16:13] Neon genesis Evangelion and End of Evangelion [16:14] An anime series that changed anime series [16:14] Aname? [16:14] I liked the last two episodes. Well actually at first I got really pissed off. You can ask Kass. He was the first person I talked to afterwards. [16:14] Trip was kinda a fan, Apoc is, I am... [16:14] Trip is a fan. [16:14] He changed is avatar. [16:14] *his [16:14] Anime - otherwise known as Japanimation [16:14] He did? [16:14] * WIA goes to look [16:14] ah, I see. [16:14] I like it, but it's too expensive to by thei Vids and I don't have Cable [16:15] Well, he did change it back to Chrono, but it was Asuka for a while. [16:15] Very Erotic at times [16:16] It is back to Chrono [16:16] It must be nearly time I changed mine again... :D [16:16] OK... I might start some orders for this turn... [16:17] 4Turnchat starts! [16:17] 4PW orders [16:17] * Disconnected * Not connected to server Session Close: Tue Nov 05 16:17:26 2002 Session Start: Tue Nov 05 16:18:33 2002 Session Ident: #civ3dem [16:18] * Now talking in #civ3dem [16:18] * Topic is 'Chat waiting for enough Ministers - Est. 0400GMT start' [16:18] * Set by WIA on Tue Nov 05 15:05:14 [16:18] really? [16:18] Intriguing - as soon as I said 4Turnchat starts! it disconnected me. [16:18] I walked out of the theatre with a big grin after seeing The Ring (title restated so MWIA knows what I am talking about). [16:18] lol [16:19] That was very out of character for me. [16:19] MWIA - He had Asuka for about a week after watching the movies. [16:19] * WIA changes topic to 'Turnchat is on now' [16:19] Everyone seems to like good ole Asuka [16:19] Oh, I was going to tell you two what my favourite show is.... [16:19] I'll try again... 4Turnchat starts now [16:19] Go on, dejon [16:19] HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA! [16:19] :) [16:20] Cool. [16:20] Sorry, I don't watch TV besides news and sports. [16:20] Hockey is good. Even if it's the ice sort. [16:20] I like the Minnesota team. The Areos are its minor league team. [16:20] Even if??? (oy) [16:21] The Wild are doing very well (remarkably) [16:21] I just moved from Vancouver to Toronto this year, so I have two teams to root for now [16:21] NGE isn't TV for me and Trip. It is for MWIA though. [16:22] Sorry dejon - I have never seen a full game of ice hockey. It's the field sort in NZ. [16:22] back [16:22] * E_T_AFK is now known as E_T [16:23] * Togas has joined #civ3dem [16:23] I'm only somewhat here. Watching Monday Night Football right now. Almost half time. [16:23] Hi Togas. [16:23] No worries WIA - field hockey is pretty unknown over here - but I understand it can get pretty interesting in some countries (Malaysia, for one) [16:23] MWIA, have you been looking into and EoE analysis? (Or talked to Kass about it) [16:23] Hey Togas [16:24] Togas, how was MNF? [16:24] Hi Togas [16:24] Apoc - a little, not much [16:24] I can't find that link to the parody summaries of the episodes that Kass likes [16:24] I can pm you some conversations I had with Kass about it. [16:24] 4PW complete [16:24] OK, are the French dead yet? (I'm been away for awhile) [16:25] 4 CP now [16:25] Not quite. [16:25] Are we moving the slider? [16:25] Really, when was the last chat? [16:25] We've taken Rheims, Amiens, and Lyons so far. [16:25] Oh - E_T - all your changes are done, right? [16:26] All but the ones in red [16:26] Gotcha. Thanks. [16:26] for turn 0, and the rushes [16:27] Green Bay 7, Miami 0. Green Bay marching at the end of the half. [16:27] Ray Lucas is out. Injured shoulder. [16:27] Togas, did you see how badly I did in the Fantasy Football game? [16:27] I hope we don't loose you after half time... [16:27] It was by far my worst game of the season. [16:27] NHL: Van 2, Col 1 :) [16:27] 4 CP done unless we moe the slider. [16:28] I could have had over 30 more points if I had put a couple different people in too. [16:28] 4FAM [16:28] Touchdown Green Bay [16:28] 3and have the rushed at the end of turn, incase we need to divert some funds [16:29] 12 Sell dyes to Greece for 19gpt, 23g, and WM [16:29] Wasn't there a poll about moving the slider? [16:29] The unofficial slider poll says 40% (36% of votes) [16:29] Don't remember whether it was official. [16:29] 4Sell dyes to Greece for 19gpt, 23g, and WM [16:29] Don't see an official poll [16:29] 12 Sell Chemistry to Persia for 6gpt, 8g, and WM [16:29] It was Unofficial, but the way that Reddawg had posted his orders, it might leave it open to MrWIA's interatation [16:29] 4 Sell Chemistry to Persia for 6gpt, 8g, and WM [16:30] 4 FAM done [16:30] Slider really should be changed this turn. [16:30] No other FAM orders this turn. [16:30] He's got court problems with MrOrange at the moment [16:30] I agree, shoud be 40% [16:30] If slider is at my discretion, I like 40% - I will do the SMC moves, then make the change - so any problems - discuss them now. [16:31] Court probs shouldn't keep him from saying where we should put the slider. [16:31] I know, he had other RL stuff too [16:31] Van 3, Col 1 (go Bertuzzi!) [16:32] I'd prefer 50%, but I 40 is alright. It received the most votes, too [16:32] 40% [16:33] It should keep the 400 Researve that Reddawg wanted [16:34] 4 SMC orders call for attack on Dijon - commencing attack [16:35] 4 1 SP killed by Cav - no dmg [16:35] anyhow, Apoc, I haven't checked the score of your game yet. My team is so far behind in the standings in the Jungle League that I haven't gotten around to checking it today. [16:36] ack - you're attacking me?? [16:36] half time now. You've got my full attention for the next 15 minutes :) [16:36] * dejon is now known as dijon [16:36] 4 2nd Cav kills SP, becomes Elite, takes Dijon, with 0L. 2 resisters, no slaves [16:36] JL is based on RL Football, right? [16:36] Yep. [16:36] * WIA points out the "E" in dejon as opposed to Dijon :D [16:36] Ah [16:37] * Kloreep cheers. [16:37] Go Cav [16:37] Togas, the score was like 58 to 53. [16:37] LOL - not too many ppl care about the French anymore [16:37] yeah, well, dijon@myisp.com was taken, so it became dejon [16:37] 4 Attacking sword NW of Amiens... [16:37] Were Annexing you [16:38] 4 1hp dmg to Vet Cav, Sword killed [16:38] I can offer a bribe if you don't burn my city - wonderful mustard! [16:40] [Apoceva:#civ3dem PING] [16:40] I just realized I am horrible lagged. [16:40] * Apoceva has quit IRC (Quit) [16:40] * Apoceva has joined #civ3dem [16:40] [Apoceva:#civ3dem PING] [16:40] Hey WIA, thump the timpanis if you're about to attack with an elite unit - let us build up the anticipation of a Great Leader [16:40] Still lagged. [16:40] 12 MrWIA, when you get to it, Dijon - Build Temple, Add Court-Wealth-Wrk-Lib to Q. WF to Population neutral [16:40] did I win? [16:40] * Apoceva has quit IRC (Quit) [16:41] I need to leave in 1h 20, so I'd better move fast... [16:41] Things are hectic with my moving out and everything. [16:41] Were are you through? [16:42] I'm in the AZ node [16:42] I am in geneva [16:43] 4 Attacking Besancon with Cavalry [16:43] HMM? [16:44] Geneva, Switzerland? [16:44] 4 No HP lost, sword killed, Besancon taken with 3 pop, and 3 slaves, no resisters [16:44] That's it Togas - I know no other Geneva [16:44] Woah... big lag. BRB. [16:44] * Kloreep has quit IRC (Quit) [16:45] * Kloreep has joined #civ3dem [16:45] That's better. [16:45] You're an Aussie, right? [16:45] got a 38 sec ping to WIA [16:46] Try switching to the Geneva server, ET. I got a 1 second ping after I did. [16:47] I seem to be o.k., but I might change between turns [16:47] 4 SMC done [16:48] Now for the slider.... 40% [16:48] So, we haven't captured any workers yet, right? [16:48] * donegeal has joined #civ3dem [16:48] Hi donegeal. [16:48] Yes - three in Besancon [16:48] 12Besancon - Build Worker, Add Settler to Q. Set WF to Pop Neutral [16:48] Whoops. Missed Besancon. [16:48] 4 slider set at 40% [16:48] hello gentlemen... and WIA... [16:49] Yeah [16:49] Hi Donegeal [16:49] 4 +339Lpt and Democracy in 12 [16:49] Hi don [16:49] hi Don [16:49] 4 Turn ends in 1min [16:49] * E_T has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [16:49] * Togas has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [16:49] we still on the first turn? [16:49] Yes. [16:49] Started about 20 past [16:49] Have to end in 1h10min, so am going as fast as I can [16:50] k, I'll keep quite unless I see something... [16:50] Cheers - appreciated [16:50] 4Turn ending [16:51] * E_T has joined #civ3dem [16:51] 4 French archer retreats from HIW [16:51] back [16:52] cursed net split... [16:52] Netsplit. Togas might still be on a USA server [16:52] 4 Posting... [16:52] 4 PW orders [16:53] did yopu do the rushes? [16:53] * Togas has joined #civ3dem [16:53] test [16:53] Shite. Sorry E_T - the SMC ones but I missed the CP ones [16:53] That's what I get for trying to go fast without you around. [16:54] the netsplit happend at the wrong moment, well rush them this turn [16:55] 4 Posted [16:55] are we in the next turn? [16:55] Yes, the save is posted [16:55] I thought Aggie was going t be here... [16:56] 12Dijon - WF to 7 [16:57] 12Besancon - build Worker, Settler in Q [16:57] 4 PW done [16:58] 4 those additions above of CP done [16:58] 4 Posted CP orders... [16:58] hello... I thought Aggie was going to be here. Isn't that why we delayed the chat till now? [16:59] Do all the rushes now? [16:59] I did too. [16:59] Oh well. MWIA gets to play with Cav some more. :) [16:59] Don - I thought so too. He said he could definitely be here in 3 minutes (0400GMT). I have no later time to do this until Sunday or beyond [16:59] Kloreep - YAY! [16:59] 12do the three Rushes from last turn and save the ones for this turn until the end of the turn [17:00] Yeah, Don, I guess he's late, I hope [17:00] 12only the ones from last turn [17:00] 4 Doing last turn rushes... [17:00] 12save the ones that are for this turn until the end of the turn [17:01] let me say ... it is so nice to see us with cavalry and cannons on the map vs. French archers. [17:01] 4Willsbury Cathedral - 72L [17:01] 20L cheeper [17:01] 4NY Cathedral for 216L [17:01] 4L cheaper [17:02] 4Lyons worker for 24L [17:02] Oh, does anyone know what the status of Lyons & Besancon are under the "Ghenghis Plan" for the French Territoryies? [17:05] 4 All CP done except this turn's rushes [17:05] 4FAM anyone..? [17:05] Let me look [17:06] 12 No FAM this turn [17:06] 4 Noone has any techs, no lost civ has any money [17:06] 4 SMC now [17:06] hehehe... just like we want it... [17:06] ;) [17:07] no workers? [17:07] Workers? I did the PW before [17:07] Oh - no, no workers that I saw - but I didn't check everyone [17:07] to buy, from other civs.... [17:08] England has 2 workers [17:09] how much? [17:09] 56L [17:09] for the two [17:09] 4 SMC done [17:10] Now just any new FAM and CP rushes [17:10] They'll sell for WM and 40g [17:10] We have 806L and +328Lpt [17:10] Not a bad prospect. Let's buy more slaves, shall we? [17:11] 4Shall I do that deal? [17:11] 12 Buy 2 workers from England for 40g and WM. [17:11] 4Buy 2 workers from England for 40g and WM [17:11] * aggie has joined #civ3dem [17:12] hello all [17:12] No more workers [17:12] Hi. [17:12] AGGIE! [17:12] E_T - CP rushes now? [17:12] SMC.... ***Donegeal Salutes Aggie*** [17:12] good deal [17:12] sorry i'm late the weathjer was bad and i had to dodge heards of deer [17:12] No worries - we took Dijon and Besancon easily [17:13] Aggie, if you're thinking of Pres next term, you'd better start grooming a new SMC. [17:13] Cannons moving into position, 3Cav and i Elite Knight ready to attack Tours [17:13] 12MrWIA, nest turn Arbela will generate a worker, that will not be for PW but it's to go to Contagion and Join the city [17:13] OK, E_T [17:13] I know togas, just don't know who [17:13] what's oour cash? [17:13] 766L and +328Lpt [17:14] Easily enough [17:14] 12Rsuh Bact & Mincie [17:14] 4 Rushing... [17:14] spend some of that cash. [17:14] wow we are in good shape money wise [17:14] 40% Scieance, too [17:14] what year are we at [17:14] 830 [17:14] 4Bacteria - Rush Courthouse for 116 [17:15] got one Elite Cav from Dijon [17:15] 4Muncie - Rush Court for 96L [17:15] downloading save now [17:15] 4 Done [17:15] yeah, you're welcome. :) [17:15] 4 Turn ends in 1 min [17:15] did you st the biulds & WF for Bas & Dij? [17:16] I'll check... [17:16] Yes I did [17:16] 4 1 min till turn end [17:16] 12have Dijon WFF work tile #7 [17:16] Done already [17:17] what has the french boat done [17:17] 12set Macros Cities WF [17:17] It's S-S-SW of Termina [17:17] * Trip- has joined #civ3dem [17:17] i hope it doesn't contain settler isn't there a settler in galley bug [17:17] 12Macross City - IF SCIENCE SLIDER IS CHANGED - WF to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-13-14-13-17. [17:18] we have 1 spear and 2 WCs defending all of Uber Isle [17:18] Wouldn't it more likely contain war forces? [17:18] i suspect,it does, [17:18] is it the same one the GF made the bet about from way back when? [17:19] large proportion of ministers I see [17:19] E_T - 13, 14, 15, 17? Or 13, 14, 16, 17 [17:19] We have a caravel in Tass ready next turn. [17:19] Trip... my new enemy... how are you doing? [17:19] 13-14-16-17 [17:20] 4 Done [17:20] i wonder it might be, i just worry because i don't think the bug of the settler on galley wasa fixed [17:20] Turn ends in 1min [17:20] checking [17:20] There's a WC in AGC - could hold out... [17:21] Or just upgrade now [17:21] 12cp looks goo [17:21] *good [17:21] and one WC east of Boomtown. That's it. [17:21] Aggie, don't worry: "Fixed v1.21f: Fixed crash related to last settler dying on a transport. [17:21] We oughta build some defenses there soon. [17:21] Any upgrade requests, Aggie? [17:21] Otherwise turn ends now. [17:22] thanks klorrkeep, lets wait till next turn for upgrades [17:22] 4 Turn ends [17:22] Whoops. Wait! [17:22] Two workers in Poly from trade [17:22] They're joining an anti-jungle group [17:23] sounds good [17:23] Dammit - settler in HII [17:23] A bit late, I'm doing good donegeal :) [17:23] a pity it will be quite a very long while before the PTW demo game gets going [17:24] Man you post fast... it hard to keep up with you... [17:24] 4 Turn ends [17:25] 4 French Galley now S of Poly, Fr sword next to workers at Lyons [17:25] 4WLWIAD in Port Rouge [17:26] 4 1 resister quelled in Dijon [17:26] Yeah [17:26] 4 Lotsa builds... [17:26] * donegeal has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:26] 12put them to work [17:26] 4 Russians building Magellan [17:26] * Donegul has joined #civ3dem [17:26] wb Done [17:27] * Donegul is now known as Donegeal [17:27] Aggie - quit hitting me on the head! OK - I'll stop my protests! [17:27] Hi Trip! God to see you. [17:28] *Good :p [17:28] 4 Posted [17:28] 4 PW orders [17:28] hehe, yah we know how to handle resistor [17:29] LoL [17:29] you too Mwia [17:29] I've been in here for about 10 minutes [17:29] * dijon lurks off to start a Francophone resistance cell [17:30] dijon you join timeline as the only person who has acity name for them [17:30] because these are out of sync due to russing late, I'll repost them for you [17:31] Heh, I doubt it will last long. Someone will give it some silly name. [17:31] 12Willsbury - Courthouse built, Worker next in Q - No WF changes. [17:31] 12 [17:31] 12New York - Cathedral built, Court next in Q - WF to 1-4-5-7-8-9-20. [17:31]