History of the World . . .
This is the thread for the Diplogame featuring:
The Capo
- Adriatic League
Chris - Mali
Drake - Zulus
Dimbleby -
Israelites
Sun Tzu - Chinese
War4Ever - Mongolia
Deity -
Australians
We will feature a website which will have some stories from
the leaders, maps, top five cities, powergraphs, wonder lists, unit and city
counts and all kindsa crap demographics, everything so anyone can check out the
progress of this game.
We will probably have some in game screen shots
and stuff like that, so it should be cool. But for now everyone can post here
and we will get it up on the website. Its been a cool session, I'll put up a
post to get us started...
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Venice Post
2000 b.c.
1/2 Gold
TOP STORY: Israeli -
African Relations Reach a Fevered Pitch!
Jerusalem, Israel - Reports
today show that a war may be brewing just south of the Nile delta. "Early
reports indicate that the Zulu threatened an Israelite settlement in the Nile
Delta, asking for money as well as technology for the safety and lives of the
Hebrew settlers. We began to discuss the matter with both Israel and the Mali
King Mansa Musa in order to iron out some sort of peace process in Africa, but a
deal was struck between Israel and the Mali" reported Venetian Secretary of
Commerce Giancarlo Agrippina. That deal was very much in favor of the African
standpoint. According to early leaks from Israeli sources, the Israelites
promised not to extend their settlements in Africa past their initial city at
the head of the Nile, it made it quite clear that territory claimed by either
Mali or the Zulu were off-limits. "It is quite evident that neither African
state wishes for Israel to extend their culture to that continent, the part that
strikes me as odd is the propensity of the [Mali and Zulus] to make such
outrageous land claims, huge amounts of territory have been claimed thousands of
miles from official borders in Africa. This is a troubling fact, one that
clearly states that the African nations are quite aggressive and expansionistic"
commented Dutch Regent William Van Der Loon. At this point in time, Doge Carlo
D'Medici has given hints that an expeditionary force may be sent into the
theatre to "asses the situation."
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Domestic
Report
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Adriatic Pact signed in
Venice.
Venice - The Lords and Regents of the six independant duchies
signed an agreement today, lineating a very strong alliance which will hence be
known as the Adriatic League. The founding states of Venice, the United
Netherlands, the Kingdom of Romania, the Kingdom of Bosporus, the Duchy of Donua
and the Province of Orenburg have agreed to full military, economic and legal
cooperation forever. "I am quite proud of my father's accomplishment" commented
reknowned Wine Merchant Lorenzo D'Medici and Duke of Trieste "This has cemented
peace throughout the European continent." However not everyone is keen on the
new arrangment, particularly Duke of Padova and well known Commerical
buisnessman Nicolo Machiavelli "I have been working for the Regency in numerous
capacities here in Venice for years, I am not sure that our viewpoints will
agree with those of Bucharesti, let alone far off Donua and Orenburg. I think
that more than peace was at work here." Despite these comments, the treaty went
through without a hitch. Doge Carlo D'Medici of Venice was named King of the
League.
Construction of Monument Commissioned in Venice.
Venice
- In honor of Doge Carlo D'Medici for creating the Adriatic League, a giant
statue in his honor has been commissioned to be built in the port of Venice. "It
will be a testament to his family, and to this very strong alliance he has
formed" commented Romanian sculptor and bronze worker Alexandru Denes, "It will
stand for centuries as a beacon of prosperity." The statue was commissioned by
head Regent Victor Emmanual of Genova.
Burst in Taxes allow more money
to Scientific Research.
Bucharesti - By far the most productive city as
far as scientific research goes, Bucharest has recieved a boost in science
funding, as have all other cities in the Adriatic League "I am quite pleased"
said Atilla Frunze, a Romanian Alchemist "My research has recieved 20% more
funding than we had previously, this should help the entire League to develop
new and better methods of living in general." The science increase occured after
the House of Regents discussed tax intakes, and decided to lower money that
would be spent on civil and military effects and increase funds towards
scientific research. "The decision did not come lightly" stated Doge Carlo
D'Medici "But we did come to an agreement, a consensus that if we are to become
a powerful nation, and a powerful Federation of Duchies, we must be innovative
in the areas of the science.
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International
Report
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Dimbleby the Wise of Israel to Propose
African Peace Summit.
Tel Aviv, Israel - Word has been leaked from the
Israeli settlement of Tel Aviv in Eastern Turkey as to a Summit Proposal which
will include all of the African States. "I am quite pleased with the decision,
if in fact these reports have any truth to them" said Doge Carlo D'Medici, "I
look forward to hearing what may come of such talks, as it is an important
matter to the various states of the League." At this point in time no
confirmation from Dimbleby could be extracted, however Israeli officials did
give hints that it may occur, there will be more information as it comes
available...
Land Deals Cement D'Medici's Place in
History.
Karakorum, Mongolia - The name of Medici will be known
throughout history, as the first leader of the Adriatic League has made two
major land pacts with the nations of Mongolia and Israel. The pacts are very
condusive to Adriatic peace. "Basically what we have done is acquired a large
amount of territory, as per our agreements with the governments of Israel and
Mongolia respectively" commented Duke Garibaldi, Secretary of the Interior "In a
general sense, we have secured all of Europe, lands north of the Khazak deserts
as well as some territory within and west of the Khazak deserts, with this land
peacefully acquired we have established not only a garauntee of open and free
land for our people, but peaceful setlements, unlike those that are being
established and debated in Africa." There are many opponents to these
agreements, especially Nicolo Machiavelli, as well as Duke William of
Orange-Nassau who is a Regent in the United Netherlands. Orange said "This is
quite possibly the most direct assault on the form of Federation we have, we are
allowing neutral and free states entrance, now we are consolidating Empire, that
is not the manner of this government, we will create states that are not of
their own will but of our own political ambition, I believe we have made a grave
misstep."
Editorial
N. Machiavelli
You are being
watched. New taxes, new documentation, new identification and loyalty oaths, new
laws. The once free flowing commerce of Venice is now being funneled through the
red tape of the League. This is hardly a Federated Republic of states. This is a
conglomoration of Medici power accross all of Europe. The possibility of its
demise has been ended, Medici has consolidated power over Europe as well as
other lands in Asia. The Israelites and the Mongols have basically signed this
into effect. I have no doubts that his son will be selected to Head Regency
within the House of Regents. He will practice autocratic power as his father
has, the Republic exists merely as an advisory body, Medici makes the final
decisions. How quickly has the lethality of the Romanian King's toungue has
turned from rasping Medici to praising the man. We have the freedom of speech
here, as long as it does not prevent Medici from retaining his air of supremacy
throughout the Federation. We are working together for our Union, but why is
Medici intervening in Africa? We know nothing of African affairs, or even of
Israeli affairs outside of Tel Aviv. Yet Medici finds it prudent to lambast the
decisions of Mali and the Zulu with no knowledge. This is not the work of a
Republican regime, this is the work of an autocrat. I urge you all to heed my
warning to your various Senates, and Lords. Perhaps the only thing scarier to
them than the sword of Medici is upheaval of the people.
N.M.
deity looked out over this God-forsaken piece of barren land that the builder
of this world had bestowed upon him....
Who will I appoint to lead the
sufferers of this desert island continent?
I give this task to Paul
Keating.
It is his brief to fight against all odds and setbacks to build
a Spaceship before any other nation on Earth and colonise another barren piece
of crap on AC
---
In the first epoch 7 tiny
towns were establish across the breadth of the land. Many local villages were
abandoned and were overgrown by WEEDS!
From only one or two such places
(huts) did anything of any value emerge. But no sign of people. Not even a
barbaraian, who would have been most welcome! We are so lonely. We hear of
wondrous things from far off lands and maybe one day we will...... never
mind...
back to earth.
Despite having only ourselves to rely on our
Scientists discovered a new form of leadership called Monarchy and Paul was
crowned King of the Aussies in 2250 BC.
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Although warned by the gods well ahead of time not to drink and walk,
War4ever refused their advice and thus the journey of Mongolia has been littered
with poor decisions........
The land is harsh and barren..... the crops
refuse to grow..... the only saving grace is that the Chinese leader AI was even
more loaded than I.
Manchuria is secured as is India...... leaving no
room for a Chinese expansion.....
We hear idle rumours of middle east
tension and African politics but have not been in contact with any of these
cultures.
A peace treaty with the courageous and honorable Adriatic
League has been established and we look forward to futher cooperation with the
round eyed peoples.....
Emperor SunTzu's sit on his throne disappionted at the recent events, his
mother has taken control of the local army and has vowed to take over the
land.
Emperor SunTzu gathers his forces and meets his mother at the Yuang
River for the final battle.......
State of the Kingdom (The year 2250):
Population - 140,000
GNP (in
millions) - $5
Manufacturing (in Mtons)- 18
Land Area - 38,000
sq.miles
Life Expectancy - 25 years
Family Size - 6.4 children
Military
Service - 7 years
Annual Income - $3 per Capita
Productivity -
60
Foreign Relations-
Adriatics at Peace Treaty
Mali peace
agreement
Zulu no agreements
A lot of interesting
developments last session, this one looks to be a good one. Is the African
situation resolved or has it just begun? How will the Mongols respond to the new
Chinese Emperor? Some interesting questions, and I'm sure we'll get some new
ones.
Aussies rock
... but
lack cities
more news
soon.....
625 BC..... Mongolia en Masse!
Well we went from 5 cities to 17 cities
with more to follow. The Mongols have been breading like rabbits to secure ALL
of Asia, as colonization of the New World seems to be too far away......
Manchuria is secure!
India is secure! The Urals are being fitted with our strongest workers. Mongolia
looks to cosolidate its standing, not to expand any further westward.
It
is apparent from our diplomats, that both the Hebrew speaking Jews and the
Adriatic League are skeptical of a Mongolian presence in Asia and the middle
east. Mongolia has done everything possible to put both of these powers at ease
but little seems to be accomplished in this regard.
The Adriatic leage is
quite a bully regarding world politics...... My advice to her neighbors is too
watch your back.
Mongolia looks to keep an isolationist approach towards
the white and brown skinned round eyes of Europe and the mediterranean...... We
also hear reports that the African isn't wanted in this world by the white man
as well......
Rumour has it , a tribe of people whom can only be regarded
as from "down under" are a crazy partying lot.... we have watched with shock as
their cities grow at astronomichal rates
Massive roads are being
constructed to allow quick deployment of troops to the front, western or
eastern. Mines are being erected to exploit the land and create an economic and
productive empire.
The Colonization of Japan has allowed us an early
warning defense system in case of a sea raid.
The Mongols are looking for
free trade with countries whom will respect treaties and whom will not be too
greedy. If this is you , please contact the Mongolian embassy in your area.
Tales of Asian treason...
To Whom It May Concern....
The House
of Medici Official Publication
625 b.c.
It has come to our
attention that words from his "respectable king" War4Ever of the Mongols
continue to bear false truths, and the house of Medici finds it incumbent upon
themselves to dispell these horrible lies.
The European Protection Act
was signed into passage as a land claim, the Adriatic League claims all lands
inside of Europe as well as others lineated in the act, and others not lineated
in the act.
The Mongolians have charged us with breaking an initial
agreement that seperated our two territories for all time. I shall now
transcribe a report from general Garibaldi, who was attending to Asian relations
at the time:
"The Mongoloid have charged us with breaking an
agreement, which is a very questionable charge in my own honest opinion. Once we
had agreed upon territorial claims, the House of Medici and his late an
honorable Doge Carlo D'Medici had ushered into effect a warning against the
Mongols. We kindly asked them to leave without threatening the health or
prosperity of their soldiers. We even offered them stay for recouperation after
combating the vile Gothic Barbarians. Thus no threat or aggression was given
towards his majesty of the Kingdom of Mongolian Tribes. However, after centuries
of falsely believing the Mongols and their promise that they would at once
return from whence they came, we had recieved maps from the Israelites which,
upon other things, had shown that the Mongols had in fact headed towards
Scandinavia, when they had told us they would go back to the steppe. I find this
very troubling information. Upon discovery of such a muder of trust, we had
asked the Mongols to please leave, telling them how disgusted we were at their
lies. We never threatened them with any force what so ever. His majesty Carlo
D'Medici offered them our maps so they didn't have to worry about mapping
Europe. Therefore we took their grave trasngression upon our trust with a grain
of salt, and even offered them maps for the misunderstanding. Consequently, a
garrison of Adriatic forces who were NOT in Mongolian territory were threatened
with their lives without warning, or without prior agreements or acceptance of
agreements. Therefore I must ask his majesty if these two faced peoples should
be trusted.
General Garibaldi"
It is thus in my opinion, that
the Mongolian Khan is attempting to subvert the interests of the Adriatic
peoples by continuing lies. They wish to have a grand alliance against us, if
that is their wish, then they have every right to pursue it.
But I do ask
of the leaders of the world, to please make sure you are aware of all facts
before you even entertain such chimerical attempts by the Khan of Mongolia. As a
new King has ascended the throne, his honorable Lorenzo D'Medici, new treaties
will be discussed and old ones revised.
Thank you for your time, and god
bless the states of the Adriatic...
House of Medici
Updates from the Adriatic League!
Doge Carlo D'Medici is dead,
but was he murdered? Who will be king? An African colony in Europe!?!?! The
European Protection Act! Possible border tensions with Mongolia? Giant statue
erected in honor of Carlo D'Medici!! WOW!
Alright, so far the action and politics in this game are very awesome even
after only the second session. We had some issues with the Chinese player but
they were all cleared up and we are ready to get this thing underway. We have a
lot more updates at the site now, including a map courtesy of the Oz-Man, which
is going to be pretty cool and may bring back fond memories of the original
Civ... ah memories.
Anyway a lot of things are going on and they seem
like they are going to heat up even more; Will the border tensions between
Mongolia and the Israelies/Adriatics heat up? What will the Mongols do about the
new leader Prometheus of the Chinese? With the advent of the Lighthouse will the
colonial era kick in? When will the Aussies make first contact? Are the latest
agreements between the Adriatics and the Mali a sign of a future partnership, or
will the European Protection Act end that in its infancy? All of these questions
and more will be asked and answered in the latest updates at the official
website of "The History of the World"....
It's gametime tonight folks, and things are ready to explode!
The Mali
have a new leader, what will King Sekong do in the wake of recent events? Will
this effect the relationship between the Mali and Adriatics? The Chinese leader
"Ai Dum Fuk" has finally abdicated the throne, will the new king Prometheus find
it as easy as Ai did to bow before the Mongols, or will the upstart Chinese
challenge Mongolian hegemony over Asia? Has the border dispute between the
westerners and Mongols subsided, or has it just begun? In which direction will
the Zulu fleet head now that the Lighthouse has been erected? These questions
and more will be answered tonight!
Todady's prospective cast is as follows:
Dimbleby of the
"Rockin" Israelies.
Sekong "The New" of the Mali.
War4Ever the
"Insane" of the Mongols.
Drake the "Black" of the Zulus.
Deity the
"Drunk" of the Aussie Posse.
Pro- "What the hell is he thinking" -metheus
of the Chinese.
And of course, Capo the "Well Endowed" of the Adriatic
League.
Feel the excitement!
625 B.C.
In the centuries
that followed, Paul concentrated on building up his towns to become cities. With
little space for more cities the Aussies set about irrigating the lands and
making babies... Without the tech of Map Making the Aussies only added one new
city, that of Perth.
Every effort was made to concentrate on scientific
research and around 900BC the concept of creating a Republic dawned on Paul
Keating, not for the last time [Aussie joke!]
By 725BC Paul despatched
his crown and donned the garment of the toga! He looked most distinguished and
the people loved him so much that they dreamt about their great leader and their
great nation every night - so much so that the population expanded
astronomically...
But, the secret of Map Making still eluded our
scientists. The Aussies wanted to sail the high seas but when presented with
further research the path of Philosophy was taken and in a northern city called
Weipa it was discovered first in the world (which would have to be the most
unlikely scenario one could imagine!)
Oil was tapped near Broken Hill
and mines setup in readiness to build the Lighthouse Wonder as soon as Map
Making arrived but alas we heard on the wind that a mighty empire of Zulus had
built this Wonder.
Finally, the Aussies were able to build tri-remes and
set forth on voyages of discovery and colonisation. One new city called Bali was
established.
deity looks out at the handiwork of Paul Keating who has managed his republic
most effectively.
With barren terrain and few cities he has lead the
Australian nation to dizzying heights of success.
New Zealand has been
settled as has The Philipines.
Our intrepid explorers to the North
happened upon a jolly fellow called Warforever. We made peace. He likes Aussies
The ultimate moment
arrived in 325BC when Broken Hill, a city where illiteracy is rife, actually
builds the Great Library!
But there are mutterings. Our cities have
reached maximum size and water is lacking. It is a dry continent and our
scientists have much to discover to maintain our momentum. The Zulus and Mongols
have many more cities which are expected to explode in a frenzy of partying and
passion....
Paul looks to the oceans for other
lands.....
A random Mongolian garrison outside of Orsoni passes a small brook, there
is a dead European clutching a peice of paper, one of the soldiers picks it up
and begins to read...
To whom it may concern.
The time has
come to end the impotence of words. They are weak, they do not catch the heart
of the royalists, there are no hearts within these men to catch. It is said
their blood is blue, this is true, for it is cold as ice. They feel no pain for
their fellow man, they are devout as barbarians, they are as benevolent as a
savage beast.
It shall begin here, the words of righteousness are not in
your newspaper, they are tacked to the walls of the slums, of the ghettos. You
will not hear a grand debate in a theatre hall, you will hear the truth in your
local pub, at your local football game. Cast a watchful eye upon your royalists,
they take your money, and spend it on gold, on food, on clothing and on whores.
This decrepid nation will rise out of this horrible position it is in. Enlist
now! Join the Europa movement. Free the world from this horrible
caste.
Bring this paper to the Kyzykum Hotel in Orsoni, present it to the
page within the lobby, he shall make you aware. Be brave, and be
watchful.
-N.B.
The soldier looked over the paper, and
tossed it to the ground. The garrison continued their march....
Tale of Writing
At the year of 3375, aka. New Kingdom 1
year, the Great Pharaoh Ray King raised to be the new ruler of Mali Kingdom. The
new king looked up and down, searched all over the hyperspace, but he could not
find any previous written history about his Kingdom. Finally, he consulted with
his science advisor, and found that the pathetic Mali people even did not know
how to write! The new king took it as a very serious issue, and the order was
given: we must discover the myth of Writing! The King said, whoever can discover
the secret, the King will share him/her all the treasure of the Kingdom! All the
wisest men/women are motivated to focus on this new research direction. But
according to the science advisor, it still needed at least another 100 years
before we can discover it ourselve. The King was so depressed.
One day,
the King stepped up to the tower of his palace, looked through the far end
between the sky and desert, he decided to seek help from other nations.
According to the Foreign Minister, the Mali had three neighbers: Zulu, Isaelite,
and Adriatics.
At first, the King met with Zulu King. A peace treaty was
easily achieved. But Zulu King didn't want to exchange any technologies with us.
Emissaries back from Isaelite also brought bad news: Isaelite the Wise also did
not know how to write. Well, maybe wise people don't need to write. But our
pathetic Mali people needed it. Finally, the Great Paraoh met with Adriatics
King. The Adriatics agreed to teach us in exchange our advanced wisedom: trade.
So it was done. As their first practics, the Adriatics asked to sell us
Literature for 100 gold. And we accepted it.
Finally, the Mali people
had their own language, which was composed of Mali Alphabet and Adriatics
grammar. On the way back to the Kingdom, the Great Pharaoh told his science
Minster an ancient wisdom, Seafaring. It was the first document written in Mali
language.
Timbuktu Times
New Kingdom Year 300
Report from
Defense Minister
As the peace treaty adn agreemnets signed with
neighber countries. A major concern was harassment of Barbarians. Two waves of
barbarian was defeated at Sikasso and Bamako. A barbarian leader was captured
near Bamako. One elite Legion was losed near Sikasso.
To better defend
our cities, a massive recruitment was performed. Each city are guarded by elite
troops now.
Domestic News
Two new cities: Bissau and Benin
were founded. More roads are build to bring more trader between
cities.
Population is 730,000.
In case I don't have time to throw this up here over the weekend here
goes...
The HOTW crew had a little "tuft" over the course of the past
week; were they able to survive this session unscathed?
Speaking of which
how's the New World looking now? The Adriatics and Zulus have finally met, will
there be a clash or a compramise? A new pact was signed, who were its members?
Will there be war again in Africa? What's the latest on the Zulu-Australian
front? Was a treaty really denied? Who's got the biggest army? What will happen
now that the Medici family is no longer in power? Why does Capo do
this?
There is a new leader in the military and cities categories. Go check it out and find out who overtook the Zulus (who had previously held the titles for both these categories in all 3 previous weeks of the game!)
Tommorow night at 8:00 pm EST (U.S.) the HOTW Diplogame kicks
off with more diplomatic insanity! A lot has happened since last session and
this one looks to be a great one. With the infusion of many nations into the
Americas something looks like its gonna break! Who's it gonna be? On top of that
alliances seem to be the soup de jour, with the Mediterranean Pact, and the new
Triple Alliance in Asia, how will the rest of the world react? The Republican
movement has already taken hold in Australia and the Zulu Nation, will it claim
another victim?
Its all gonna come to a head, and the following
douchebags will be thre to make it happen...
Drake "Don't Hate the Player
Hate the Game" of the Zulus.
Dimbleby "The Chillin" of the Fightin'
Isrealites.
War4 "Chaka" Khan of the Mongolian Hordes.
Prometheus
"The Small" of the Cha Cha Cha Chinese.
Se- "King" -Kong of the
Mali.
Deity "The Orange" of the Aussie Posse.
And of course, Il
"He's just here to fix the uh, pipes honey" Capo of the Fanatic
Adriatics.
And that's pretty much it. Peace.
Deity is consistently impressed with Paul’s performance.
The
illiterate folk from broken Hill are hauling in the techs with
GL.
Triremes with settlers have arrived in South America and established
two new towns on the West coast including the Zulu described Gold Coast. We made
contact with the Zulus, who, after some initial diplomatic blunders (on their
part!) accepted a peace treaty. They even offered 50 gold! But why, I’m not
sure? Paul took it anyway
He’s like that!
The Aussies remain the supreme power but with other civs
establishing so many cities Deity suspects Paul may have to carefully consider
his expansion program. It is imperative that all other nations recognise Aussies
rights to substantial areas in the Americas. The following map shows the Aussies
claims.
A strong alliance has been forged with the Mongols and Chinese. Much
tech sharing has occurred and a great friendship prevails. It is also imperative
that significant areas of North America are available for the Chinese, in
particular, to settle.
Paul has had words with El Capo Diego who does not respect the Aussie
claim.
We started out on a lump of a desert island and seek to claim
rather poor land in South America. I seek the counsel of my allies and other
wise leaders of the world.
The Adriatic league started in the lush
valleys and grasslands of Europe. And still have much land to settle in the old
country. Yet, El Capo says he will fight for land in America!
Does the
rest of the world feel that Paul's claim is reasonable?
We warn the world
of the volatile and unreasonable behaviour of the League.
We will
negotiate boundaries with civilsed and respectful nations
only.....
First point; I am not a spaniard it is Il Capo not El Capo.
I never
said I am going to fight you, what I said was I do not respect this claim on the
grounds that it is not fair to anyone else.
If I were to make a huge land
claim the way you did I would be laughed at, and the same should occur to you,
except you have half the world in an alliance which will support this ridiculous
land claim.
My stance is that the new world is open season, whoever
settles what gets it. If you want to fight for land that is your choice to do
so, I simply said that I would settle anywhere I deem plausable and if one
chooses to fight me based solely on where I place my settlements, then I would
be more than willing to accomodate them.
But for you to assume that you
can just go out of your way and make land claims is unfair to me, and is
pesonally dispariaging to me and my people. To further believe you can make
these claims based on your power and my relative weakness compared to that power
is yet another insult, and then to base this huge claim on the fact that you
have a very strong alliance is further evidence that you might intend on using
violent means to achieve this claim.
It is unfair that you get the
opportunity to make a claim and expect everyone else to agree to it, that is
what I am saying, and I believe every nation on this planet including your
allies would agree with that.
I do not bow down to anyone, including
whoever happens to be on top, expecting me to agree to your every whim is quite
insulting as well.
-Adriatic League.
Your map also differentiates with the original zulu agreements that you made.
Our understanding was that South America was to be divided in two on a straight
line. This means that your original line that youve drawn from the tip of South
America should go straight through the entire continent to the top. This is what
Shakeem agreed to and he will not honor your claim in eastern S. America.
Although most of this land is made up of jungle, the resources there are
numerable. Shakeem also wants to remind Consul Keating, that real estate in
Southern Africa is very limited and our expansion into the new world will not be
covering the Northern America. That being said, if you insist upon retaining
your claim in S. America, we will be forced to migrate there (N. America). We do
not desire this, so don't make the mistake of forcing us into an akward
situation.
The wide range that is claimed is almost as ridiculous as
Shakeem claming that Canada is his. Consul Keating, we wish the best of luck to
you, but you're in a dream world if you think the rest of the world will bow to
your wishes........
Also, if you wish to complain of god given land,
please take a look at China and Israel. Israel is sandwiched between three large
nations and has no room to expand. Yet you do not hear them making claims that
they cannot support. And China. China was raped out of their land by the
Mongols. Their potential was squashed like a bug long ago. Australia leads the
world in population and power. Apparently the land god gave you could not be
that poor. To be ambitious is one thing. To be greedy is another.
New Timbuktu Times.
AD. 30. 1/4 Gold
Headline: The
Settlement in New Land.
After centuries' searching, we finally found
a new land. The New Timbuktu City(NTC) are founded.
Since the early
days, The Great Pharaoh had been concerned about the growth limit of Mali due to
a lack of fertilize land. About half land of Mali are desert. The only answer to
this problem is exploring new land. The first several orders of The Great
Pharaoh included sending a navy fleet to find the new land. After Several
hundred years' travelling, the fleet passed Iceland, Greenland, and finally
found a New Land. Meanwhile another navy fleet with new seafaring technology
also arrived. Local nomads seemed happy to our arrival. Some skilled tribes
joined us. A local legion called Sitting Bull has been assigned to be the
associate military leader at new settlement. The head of all the settlement is
believe to be the Great Pharaoh himself. He bought the land of New Timbuktu from
natives by a bag of colorful stone: emerald, gold, and ruby, which represent the
color of our flag. Some attendant of the Paraoh argued that it might be too
expensive. But the Pharaoh replies, "If you know that, hundred years later, the
city founded here will be the center of the world, the icon of freedom, each
acre of its land will worth more than that, you would not say so. And my
reincarnation will come back here 2000 years later." With a big smile on his
face, the Pharaoh think: what I really mean is that I AM directing the founding
of this city, where I am living, from 2000 years later.
That year was
called AD.1. It's popular believed that AD is the abbreviation of "After great
Discover". But only the Pharaoh know that there is an another cause yet to be
revealed. When HES TIME COMES.
The Building of Great
Wall
In order to defend our cities, the Great Wall was built. It's a
movement began from Timbuktu. It compose of city walls surround each of cities,
and between cities. The Great Wall will give us special benefit when defending
barbarians and other invassions. Almost every families devoted to this great
project. Kids play with stones since very young. Therefore it became a habit
that wherever out settler found a new city, the first thing they will do is to
build a city wall. Believe or not, they can do it even when they have sweetest
wildest dreams. Otherwise it can't explain how it could be done in almost no
time. Maybe that's god's miracle onto people living in pathetic
desert.
International reports.
At the time of finish Great
Wall project, we re-state our peace willing toward all nations. In the New Land,
we expect to meet new nations and seeking true friendship. Before any agreement
was made, we claim the land we settle first. Land within our cities's radius, in
between, and nearby, now and in future, before official agrrements are made. We
like to discuss the issue with leaders of other nations.
Our friendship
with Zulu nation are developing. Caravans come from Zulu. They are welcome. Some
of our caravans are also ready to depart from Timbuktu. We look forward to
further trading with Great Zulu.
Israelite are building fortress at the
border. It's not friendly movie, but we hope it will end as defense purpose
only.
We continued to trade some advanced technologies with Adriatic
League, but meanwhile they breaked the land agreement with us, they landed at
Tunis and claimed that's within their city's radius. The Tunis settlement
project have to be postponed. While the Foreign Minister still stay in League to
negotiate the situations, military force are not that opatient. Middle class
military officers are angry about league's behavor. Rumor said some special
action might be performed.
Domestic Report.
Building road.
Building road.
Building Irrigation. Building Irrigation.
When European
explorers arrived in new worlds they DID claim whole lands. Sometimes several
nations laid claims, sometimes there were wars.
Paul has made an Aussie
claim and is prepared to peacefully negotiate the borders as previously
stated.....
Shakeem, you said
you would send the Aussies a map but it did not arrive.
So we proposed
the claims in the posted map as a suggestion since the additional land Paul
would like to claim is virtually all jungle anyway.
However, your words are
correct and we shall amend our boundary to reflect the longitude that you
suggest.
You must admit that, if you count up the land area, the Aussies
are at a huge disadvantage and when you add to that the poor quality of our
terrain I appeal to the world to understand the need for at least the rest of
our claim.
Paul can support
his claim and it's up to all nations to provide for their own
people.
Paul wishes friendship with the Zulu folk and is disappointed
with the tone and manner of this missive.
Shakeem's generosity in securing
peace with the Aussies will not be forgotten, however. And it is clear you see
some merit in the argument that a nation starting out with poor land deserves a
little international support in securing at least some additional colonies,
albeit also with poor terrain.
Clearly the Aussies have fully recognised
the rights of the Chinese to large areas of land in North America.
A letter arrives in the newly established Australian town in the new
world..........
Consul Keating,
As long as you retract your
plans to cut into eastern S. America, there will be peace. Shakeem welcomed your
countries entry into a continent that could have very easily been "claimed" in
entirety by the Zulu Nation. We even tolerate the city that you so boldly placed
not far south from an established Zulu city. We can be peaceful neighbors. That
is what the Zulus want. Whether we will be or not will be determined by
decisions you make in the near future. I know you to be a wise man Consul. Your
empire is one of legends. We trust you will make the wise choice.
Consul
Shakeem
Habsburg Royal Palace, around dinner time...
King Ferdinand:
All of this talk, it is frustratingly dull!
Cosimo D'Medici: Yes 'tis
sire, I am quite shocked myself. You know the Asians have established a very
strong alliance, word comes from the Zulu that it has even made a land claim of
nearly all of the Americas.
Vittoria: Speaking of which how is Leopold?
Is he well?
Ferdinand: I have heard nothing of Leopold, I assume
so...
Cosimo: He's a strapping lad, he'll be perfectly fine. He braved
the harsh asian deserts, through Mongolia, Israel, Mali and the Zulu Nation.
He'll be fine, he's got Habsburg blood, its strong.
Ferdinand: Yes it is
(he smiles and looks at Vittoria, she smiles back) Well, regardless it should be
fine the- (he is interrupted)
Page: Sire, I apologize for intruding upon
your mealtime, but this is of the utmost importance! A message from Leopold and
the Zulus sire! (he hands a scroll to a servant takes it and hands it to the
king, who stands up and reads it)
Cosimo: What does it say
Ferdinand?
Ferdinand: My god, Giovanni, please give these scraps to the
servants.
Giovanni: But sire, there is a whole meal he-
Ferdinand:
Don't ever say but to me again! When I give you an order you obey, now take the
food to the cooking chambers at once! (the servant leaves alongside the
page)
Cosimo: My lord?
Ferdinand: Vittoria please leave... (she
slowly exits, looking at her brother Cosimo with a worried look)
Cosimo:
My lord?
Ferdinand: It is this map, this is America look at it. (he hands
it to Cosimo) See that, right there in the middle?
Cosimo: Are you sure
the landmasses are shaped correctly, there is no way Europe is this small
compared to-
Ferdinand: Its right Cosimo, god damn it! What will we
do?
Cosimo: I have no idea, I am no politician...
Ferdinand: We do
not need a politician Cosimo, we need a leader.
Cosimo: My lord, I have
heard legends the Aus-
Ferdinand: Call upon Garibaldi, I want a House of
Regents meeting as soon as is possible.
Cosimo: That could take weeks
sire, I shall send the word. (He exits)
King Ferdinand looked out of
his palace window, staring accross the Adriatic Sea, he pulled out his sword and
looked over it, for centuries it had been passed down through the ages of
Habsburgs... it was so clean and shiney, so perfect... and it was all going to
change...
Paul now realises
the unfortunate nature of this mis-understanding.
The map now shows
Shakeem's understanding of the originally verbally agreed border.
The
Australian envoy in South America has been asked to attend a 'holiday'
conference in Tahiti - permanently
However, Paul has sent a message appealing
to the Zulu's sense of fair play and asks that the land in question be requested
for Aussie settlement, perhaps in return for gold?
(BTW as an aside Civ
3 will have a bargaining table - can't
wait!)
The following message arrives at the various palaces of Mongolia, China,
and Australia....
Dear Sirs...
Through the Zulu embassy it has
come to our attention that a member of your alliance, which we refer to as the
Pacific Pact (please inform us if this moniker is incorrect), has made quite the
land claim in North America, and since "situations" have deterred us from
"playing" I think the time we now have to discuss this issue will suffice for
some type of end result here. I believe I speak for the Mali as well when I say
that land is tight in North America, and we feel that the Australians may have
overstepped their realistic bounds in making this claim.
I have many
issues to bring to a head as concerns this land claim as well as treaty and
alliance in general. There have been past agreements made to me by nations in
Asia that, if this claim comes to fruition, will have been discarded. Which I
believe is unfair to me. Therefore I would like to personally, as King of the
Adriatic League, ask that the sovreign nations of China, Mongolia and Australia
hold an ICQ audience with me so that I may display my grievences/issues with
this land claim. Thus, I ask that the Pacific Pact at least hear me out. We may
hold the meeting in any Asian city that is required, I will send only one
ambassador, Antonio DeNucci from Naples to attend the meeting, and he shall only
represent the interests of his most Catholic majesty, King Ferdinand I of
Habsburg.
Thank you for your time,
Leopold of Habsburg.
END
MESSAGE.
Paul will discuss with his allies first using the following map as a basis
for discussion...
Don't call us Capo, we'll call you
A message from his most Catholic Majesty; Ferdinand I of
Habsburg...
In response to the map and corresponding claims posted I
say this: First I continue to disregard any claims made by Australia to any land
in the Americas, and obviously I disregard any claim made BY Australia
FOR another nation. To think I would accept a land claim made by
Australia in the name of the Mali is ridiculous, or a land claim made by China
in the name of Israel for example.
Further I disregard any land claims
that are made at all. If I am in a position to respect a specific claim I myself
will do so. For instance of the Zulu wish to hold all of South America within
their realm, they shall not only ask Australia to agree to this claim, but every
nation, as every nation is sovreign the will of one should not be projected upon
the consent of another. If any mapping out of the New World shall occur, as has
been done in the leisure time of the honorable Consul Keating, a congress should
be established of all nations in the world to establish such a map. I hardly
believe it is the will of every nation on the planet for Australia to carve up
the New World in such a manner.
Further, I do respect the honorable
portions of his designs. I.E. the land grant towards China, it is quite an
honorable tact. However, though I do see the plight of China as a horrible one,
I don't think it gives Australia any more right than it does say the Mali,
Israelites or the Adriatic League to carve up a fast claim in the name of China.
The original map created by Australia which did lineate the land claim of only
the Australian Republic was acceptable if only for suggestive purposes. As I
have said before, for Australia to think it could simply claim whatever land it
wished and expect every nation on the planet to agree to it without problems was
quite ridiculous. Possibly Australia's nation, which is an Isle unto itself with
no foreign aggressors or any chance of them without a vast naval force, has
given Australia some false impressions as far as international politics
goes?
In reality if a stunt of this nature was pulled in volatile Africa,
or even more volatile central Asia, a war or advanced aggression would have been
the result. I believe with every fiber of my being that Australia is attempting
to further its own Alliance, which (as far as Adriatic intelligence currently is
aware) consists of the nations of Mongolia, China and Australia. They are
attempting to do this at the sacrifice of the power of the Adriatic States, the
Mali, the Israelites, and the Zulu Nation. For any nation to simply draw out
borders in two continents that they have no full control over is ridiculous. The
Australians have CLEARLY forgotten the states of Israel and the Adriatic
League when creating these land grants, I believe it is unfair for this to
occur.
I believe I speak for the Mediterranean Pact when I denounce these
land claims/grants, however the Wise Dimbleby of Israel is free to offer his own
opinion into these matters. Before anything further officially occurs, I believe
that a summitt of all nations is in order, I would like to discover the opinions
of China and Mongolia (who are mysteriously silent) and the opinions of the
Mali, the Zulu and my ally Israel before I agree to any sort of land claims or
grants by any nation whatsoever.
In closing I would like to say that I am
the King of a sovreign nation. The Adriatic League, I am quite sure my sentiment
is shared with every leader on this planet when I say that I am dead-set against
any nation taking advantage of me or my people. I am fully prepared to fight any
nation that would purposely slight my people, and would take advantage of them
in any adverse way. If for any leader among us this does not ring true I doubt
your abilities and credulance as a leader. However if you are aware that these
are qualities of all good leaders, than you will understand my points and my
arguments, and you will entertain an international meeting on this subject.
CLEARLY this situation could lead to a world war, and that is something
that I want to avoid.
-Ferdinand of Habsburg.
[This message has been edited by The Capo (edited March 19,
2001).]
I find it odd that the Aussie et al are making land claims in North America,
when the Zulus and the Adriatic are the only ones who actually have units in
North America. Claiming land is all fine and dandy, but it's pointless someone
else settles it before you have the tech and units to get there.
Israel
herby claims all of North America, even though we have no tiremes and have not
discover navigation yet.
A message from the Special Committee on New China Affairs:
SOUTH
AMERICA
It is the opinion of this committee appointed by the Great
Republic of China that there is no need for Chinese interference in this area of
the world, the Great Republic of Australia and the Great Republic of the Zulu’s
have reached an agreement on the division of the land in South America and each
are believed to be in a position to enforce there claims there. As it is
believed that no other power has a position in the territory of South America.
This Committee endorsees with the will of the Senate the land agreement reached
between the Zulu’s and the Australians is now recognized by the Republic of
China and will respect the territories claimed by the Republic of Australia and
the Zulu Republic in the sphere of South America.
OTHER
LANDS
It is the opinion of this Committee that while each country could
expand as fast as it could into the New World that it would eventually lead to
War as the Adriatic Emperor pointed out. And that while the Australian Map is a
start in the guide to peacefully there are some changes that need to be made. As
the Emperor of the Adriatic’s pointed out neither they nor the Israeli people
were on the Map. However the Israeli government is wrong when they say “the
Zulus and the Adriatic are the only ones who actually have units in North
America” Both the Chinese Government and the Mongols have forces and even cities
in North America and our reading of Foreign Newspapers indicates that the Mali
are also present.
THE CHINESE PROPOSAL
Now we are not saying that this
Proposal is set in stone, obviously the Mali and the Adriatic’s need to discuss
there division of there territory and I am sure each government has its
complaints but this process will only be completed if each and every country
tells the others it’s territorial ambitions. The Chinese are happy with the
amount of land granted to them by the Australian proposal.
China only
asks that all other countries recognize the Chinese Claim.
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