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    • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
      Of course it can't get the same ratings as it isn't available in anywhere near as many households. To imply low ratings are a result of less than par quality is, I repeat, laughable (and you know it).
      Now you are grasping at straws. Mad Men has horrible ratings for CABLE shows.

      All you've done is name a couple of cable shows that might have possibly been considered for broadcast TV at one time. To imply they both could have and would have been the same as the versions that DID actually air on cable is conjecture at best.

      The closest we have is Sopranos and the atrocity it became when edited for "regular" TV. I have no idea why you think this particular argument supports your point.
      As anyone knows, dubbing for curse words never works and taking out sex scenes whole hog, instead of, say showing the same scenes without nudity as if they would if it is originally on cable (A&E IS CABLE!) dampers things.

      A good example is the HBO show "Dream On". The creators did 2 versions - one with nudity and one without for broadcast showing down the line and guess what it did air on broadcast TV (one season on FOX).

      Btw, do you still think that Breaking Bad has too much violence on TV considering (and this is a show I did forget), FOX had "24", which included torture?

      Originally posted by Wezil View Post
      I said the last few years and you have now conceded the point. Thank you.
      Way to be overly pedantic and engaged in picky selection indicating your complete and utter failure to prove your point.

      How about for musicals? Drama is the category that counts.
      So you are conceding you are wrong?

      After all, plenty of comedy is far better than the vast majority of drama. Exhibit A: Community.
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      • But think of how awesome Community would be if it had nudity and swearing?
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        • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
          I restate: Why are you entitled to get something for free?
          I never said I was.

          My complaint is there's no way for me to give them my money!!!!
          Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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          We've got both kinds

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          • I am angry because I want to give the money and they make it impossible for me to do so.
            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
            Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
            We've got both kinds

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            • Except wait a year. This is 2012 not 1812, I don't have to wait for them to physically ship it by boat from America.
              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
              We've got both kinds

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              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                Now you are grasping at straws. Mad Men has horrible ratings for CABLE shows.
                We switched from Breaking Bad to Mad Men did we? Of course the cable shows have fewer viewers, they are in far fewer homes. You can't get around this fact despite continuing to ignore it. Also, I don't know why anyone is watching Mad Men so don't expect me to pump that one up.

                As anyone knows, dubbing for curse words never works and taking out sex scenes whole hog, instead of, say showing the same scenes without nudity as if they would if it is originally on cable (A&E IS CABLE!) dampers things.

                A good example is the HBO show "Dream On". The creators did 2 versions - one with nudity and one without for broadcast showing down the line and guess what it did air on broadcast TV (one season on FOX).


                So it makes a difference then? Once again you concede the point.


                Way to be overly pedantic and engaged in picky selection indicating your complete and utter failure to prove your point.


                It's not overly pedantic to say you can't compare when no comparison exists. If cable wasn't making shows ten years ago how can you compare theme to broadcast shows of ten years ago?


                So you are conceding you are wrong?

                After all, plenty of comedy is far better than the vast majority of drama. Exhibit A: Community.


                No, I'm saying you have picked a red herring. When I claim elevated levels of permissible violence is a part of the reason for cables success it is hardly fair to pick a genre that doesn't lend itself to violence as your go-to example. Particularly when comedy isn't what they predominantly show (we weren't talking about the Comedy Network). Why not musicals? Hell, pick reality shows as your example and you can trounce me.

                Your own post confirmed cable has a virtually lock on both genies and golden globes for several years now. Cable has arrived and they have taken over.
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                • The 2012 Golden Globe nominee list:


                  BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA

                  AMERICAN HORROR STORY (FX)

                  BOARDWALK EMPIRE (HBO)

                  BOSS (STARZ)

                  GAME OF THRONES (HBO)

                  HOMELAND (SHOWTIME)


                  Another sweep.
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                  • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                    Except wait a year. This is 2012 not 1812, I don't have to wait for them to physically ship it by boat from America.
                    I've never understood why HBO is opposed to Hulu and/or Netflix. They could put up the entire season 6 months after it aired on their channel and load the DVD up with extras when they would normally release it and mute these complaints.
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                    • I'm sure Imran is right that they feel they are protecting their subscription income.

                      I think people who want to watch the latest version of the show when aired will either pay to have a subscription, or pirate, whether the Netflix and Blu-Ray comes out 3 months after the season or a year after the season.
                      Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                      Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                      We've got both kinds

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                      • What if you're subscribed, but you pirate anyways for the convenience of having your own copy?
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                        • In a similar vein, is it moral to record TV? DVRs cut into sales of DVDs, since fans of the show can watch whenever they want without buying expensive boxed sets.
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                          • Felch, that's moral because the law says it is.
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                            • Oh, okay. I'm not a lawyer, so sometimes I have a hard time telling right from wrong.
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                                The 2012 Golden Globe nominee list:


                                BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA

                                AMERICAN HORROR STORY (FX)

                                BOARDWALK EMPIRE (HBO)

                                BOSS (STARZ)

                                GAME OF THRONES (HBO)

                                HOMELAND (SHOWTIME)


                                Another sweep.

                                I thought "American Horror Story" was rubbish. Can't argue with the rest of those, though.
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