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  • #31
    ...LOL - by which he means illegal copies of course
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    • #32
      Victoria has been pirateted...that sucks.
      Visit http://www.civgaming.net/

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      • #33
        Originally posted by uglyduck
        ...LOL - by which he means illegal copies of course
        I mean absolutely legal copies. There are no illegal copies of those two games in Russia. Russian pirates don't have balls to copy games published by Snowball.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Serb

          I mean absolutely legal copies. There are no illegal copies of those two games in Russia. Russian pirates don't have balls to copy games published by Snowball.

          What? Does Snowball have their own hit squads?
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          • #35
            Who knows, it's Russia!

            BTW, uglyduck: What are you tw otalking about? Is it something with you and the Oaradox forums agian?
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            • #36
              Nuts.

              Just read through 'the thread' on the Paradox forums.
              I hope that the reviewer responsible for leaking it gets it in the neck and that the whole incident doesn't have too much of a negative impact ...

              [Edit: I wonder - If the released version did have a unique identifier - could Paradox tailor future patches not to recognise it - a little like Stardock and Galactic Civs I guess?]

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              • #37
                Victoria has been pirateted...that sucks.
                It's not that big a deal, just alot of scare mongering and witch hunting going on in the official forums because no one has anything better to do while they wait for the game. Of course, Patric cheering them on and droping ridiculous threats like "maybe we won't make any patches..." isn't helping any.

                Every game is pirated, often a week before it's released in the stores, and this won't have any impact on the sales. Having it pirated week early isn't going to stop people from buying it, just as having it pirated a week later wouldn't stop anyone from downloading it. If it has any effect, it will just be from people who are 'demoing' the game before buying it, and as long as they make a quality product they have nothing to worry about in that regard.

                Originally posted by ravagon
                [Edit: I wonder - If the released version did have a unique identifier - could Paradox tailor future patches not to recognise it - a little like Stardock and Galactic Civs I guess?]
                It's common practice to change the copy protection when making a new patch to inconveniance pirates and make them get a new crack, but it really doesn't amount to much. And it can actually inconveniance the customer just as much, or more. They changed the protection on Eu2 alot, sometimes turning it off or changing it in each patch, and because of that, there was one version where my CD wouldn't work due to the new copy protection they added.

                By the way, the 'unique identifier' of Galactic Civilizations (ie. CD keys) didn't last very long either, as they quickly made a key generator for it.
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                • #38
                  I'm glad the pirated version has been released, since this game won't be released in Belgium officially any way

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                  • #39
                    Oh, you can be sure it will be released sometime. Paradox just have to find someone willing to publish it.

                    BTW, that pirate BS doesn't belong here.
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                    • #40
                      If the game's not being released officially in your country, you can just order it online...pretty painless, eh?

                      In any case, the buzz is that it seems that the game may be rather hard to play without a manual....bad news for pirates, good news for legal buyers.
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                      • #41
                        I must say that I doubt that, based on experience from earlier PAradox releases.
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                        • #42
                          I betatested the game, and I can asure you the manual is so much better than the previos paradox manuals.

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                          • #43
                            That's good to know. I've understood that it is Patric that have made it this time, and not someone from outside of Paradox?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Nikolai
                              I must say that I doubt that, based on experience from earlier PAradox releases.
                              Except that those earlier releases had a tutorial...Victoria doesn't.

                              Still, Perhaps, but then again I'm just the messenger....

                              That's what some people on the Paradox forums are saying, can't confirm if it's true.
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                              • #45
                                It had a "tutorial" to be more precise. It's right that Vickie won't have a tutorial, but I for one don't see that as a huge loss.
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