PEACE-CyCon War Preparations thread

[Drogue]

Whatever happens. They do not have HEC or Non Math. That means we are ahead one defence and soon one attack thread. If they build a fleet, we have the defences at the most likely bases they'll hit, and a laser cruiser patrolling to destroy any transports they send. They had so low defences before, even if they build a we synth sentinels, we can still attack them effectively. We should do fine

[Phenix]

We're effectively relying on our tech advantage. That's a correct action, but we must protect our bases as well as possible against probes. An infiltration would be deadly, but Peace stealing NonLMath even worse!!

[Impaler[WrG]]

*Shudddders*

[Drogue]

We will have probe defenses in our 3 Western coast bases, and AP will keep building them until we feel safe. Shouldn't be a problem.

[Drogue]

Besides, by the time they can prototype an impact cruiser, we will have beaten the crap out of them enough. If they get HEC it may be worse, since then they can defend effectively.

[Maniac]

No more PEACE apparently...
What to do now with our best-of-Chiron military technologies? Attack another faction? It would be a huge waste of our relative advantage to other factions if we didn't...

[DeathByTheSword]

PEACE will be back...mananogwat just did save it the right way

[Maniac]

Ah now I get it! I thought they deliberately suicided...

[Maniac]

I have reviewed Drogue's production plan in more detail. I agree with the most of it, but I have a few points I'd like to offer to think about.

First, I agree with Phenix that if PEACE expects an attack, they will concentrate on defense units. Therefore I think that for now building one plasma sentinels is sufficient to prototype plasmasteel. Since we're going on the offensive, first focusing on more probes or impact marines/rovers could be better.

Secondly, I think we should concentrate on infiltrating PEACE much earlier than 2152 (unless the Hive would be willing to provide us with all their infiltrator information). To that end, I would like to propose that we either build a plasmasteel transport in Pi Square first, and send it to (57.63) with one or two probes in it, or first send it to the fungus patch at (62.68) and then the next turn infiltrate at Alexandria or something. Another possibility would be rushing a transport in Aurora with the help of a crawler.

Thirdly, is it necessary to switch out of Wealth in MY 2146 already? I never delved into the details of Wealth SE morale effects, children's creches influences etcetera, but isn't it so that any units built under wealth get their normal morale whenever you switch out of wealth, meaning we could change in MY 2151 as well. Or perhaps not switch out of wealth at all! After all, PEACE suffers the same moral penalty as us, and ATM we have superior weaponry anyway.

[Impaler[WrG]]

I am wondering if we plan to upgrade any of our Scout Patrols to Plasma Steel after we get it pro-typed? Is it advantagous to do so? I am not familar with how our energy is being alocated but it might be better to upgrade some scout patrols (espeacialy ones with good moral) rather then build new ones. Rather we could build additional attack forces or focus on growth. I am not shure what the cost would be but I estimate it would be around 30 credits, dose anyone else know better?

[Phenix]

Yes... I think the most important troops in our upcoming assault will be the amphibious impact squads and maritime combat vessels.

We might not need as much probes as anticipated (but off course they're still necesarry), because we can probably gain infiltration via the Hive , and there are lots of factions now to trade with.

As for the Plasma garrisons, as already mentioned, IHMO one will do as prototype. Following defense can, suggested by Impaler, come in the form of upgraded scouts...

[DeathByTheSword]

I agree...but i would like to keep the amount of probes they can haress the enemy and steal any info money or techs we dont have yet

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Maniac
First, I agree with Phenix that if PEACE expects an attack, they will concentrate on defense units. Therefore I think that for now building one plasma sentinels is sufficient to prototype plasmasteel. Since we're going on the offensive, first focusing on more probes or impact marines/rovers could be better.

Ok, I will edit for that.

Originally posted by Maniac
Secondly, I think we should concentrate on infiltrating PEACE much earlier than 2152 (unless the Hive would be willing to provide us with all their infiltrator information). To that end, I would like to propose that we either build a plasmasteel transport in Pi Square first, and send it to (57.63) with one or two probes in it, or first send it to the fungus patch at (62.68) and then the next turn infiltrate at Alexandria or something. Another possibility would be rushing a transport in Aurora with the help of a crawler.

Possibly. We need to do it while remaining treatied IMHO, and unseen. But yes, I agree with you, we need to infiltrate earlier.

Originally posted by Maniac
Thirdly, is it necessary to switch out of Wealth in MY 2146 already? I never delved into the details of Wealth SE morale effects, children's creches influences etcetera, but isn't it so that any units built under wealth get their normal morale whenever you switch out of wealth, meaning we could change in MY 2151 as well. Or perhaps not switch out of wealth at all! After all, PEACE suffers the same moral penalty as us, and ATM we have superior weaponry anyway.

We need the morale points (our laser cruiser is very green ) and we need all the bonus we can get against naval yards. Also, no, they don't gain morale when we switch out later. You lose morale on switching into wealth, but do not gain it on switching out. Either we live with very green units (which would be suicidal IMHO) or we switch out of wealth. We only get a slight mineral reduction and 1 extra energy per base anyway. For 2 morale points, on 25% in battle, that's a bad trade IMHO.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
I am wondering if we plan to upgrade any of our Scout Patrols to Plasma Steel after we get it pro-typed? Is it advantagous to do so? I am not familar with how our energy is being alocated but it might be better to upgrade some scout patrols (espeacialy ones with good moral) rather then build new ones. Rather we could build additional attack forces or focus on growth. I am not shure what the cost would be but I estimate it would be around 30 credits, dose anyone else know better?

It costs a lot more than that (nearer 120ec) IIRC. It may be worth it, certainly in an emergency, but I think for 18 mins each, it's worth building them. Not yet though, as I agree with Maniac in delaying them.

[Googlie]

It costs 140 ec's to upgrade form 1-1-1 to 1-3-1

G.