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  • this is what nasa used to be like

    ah, the good old days, when nasa actually did some good things that weren't drowned out by negative press.

    laser sails might actually work, now, according to this nasa test.


    NASA Successfully Flies First Laser-powered Aircraft

    Ever since the dawn of powered flight, it has been necessary for all aircraft to carry onboard fuel - whether in the form of batteries, fuel, solar cells, or even a human "engine" - in order to stay aloft.

    But a team of researchers from NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards, Calif., and the University of Alabama in Huntsville is trying to change that.

    They have now chalked up a major accomplishment... and a "first." The team has developed and demonstrated a small-scale aircraft that flies solely by means of propulsive power delivered by an invisible, ground-based laser. The laser tracks the aircraft in flight, directing its energy beam at specially designed photovoltaic cells carried onboard to power the plane's propeller.

    "The craft could keep flying as long as the energy source, in this case the laser beam, is uninterrupted," said Robert Burdine, Marshall's laser project manager for the test. "This is the first time that we know of that a plane has been powered only by the energy of laser light. It really is a groundbreaking development for aviation."

    "We feel this really was a tremendous success for the project," added David Bushman, project manager for beamed power at Dryden. "We are always trying to develop new technologies that will enable new capabilities in flight, and we think this is a step in the right direction."

    The plane, with its five-foot wingspan, weighs only 11 ounces and is constructed from balsa wood, carbon fiber tubing and is covered with Mylar film, a cellophane-like material. Designed and built at Dryden, the aircraft is a one-of-a-kind, radio-controlled model airplane. A special panel of photovoltaic cells, selected and tested by team participants at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, is designed to efficiently convert the energy from the laser wavelength into electricity to power a small electric motor that spins the propeller.

    The lightweight, low-speed plane was flown indoors at Marshall to prevent wind and weather from affecting the test flights. After the craft was released from a launching platform inside the building, the laser beam was aimed at the airplane panels, causing the propeller to spin and propel the craft around the building, lap after lap. When the laser beam was turned off, the airplane glided to a landing.

    The team made a similar series of demonstration flights in 2002 at Dryden, using a theatrical searchlight as a power source. The recent flights at Marshall are the first known demonstration of an aircraft flying totally powered by a ground-based laser. The demonstration is a key step toward the capability to beam power to a plane aloft. Without the need for onboard fuel or batteries, such a plane could carry scientific or communication equipment, for instance, and stay in flight indefinitely. The concept offers potential commercial value to the remote sensing and telecommunications industries, according to Bushman.

    "A telecommunications company could put transponders on an airplane and fly it over a city," Bushman said. "The aircraft could be used for everything from relaying cell phone calls to cable television or Internet connections."

    Laser power beaming is a promising technology for future development of aircraft design and operations. The concept supports NASA's mission-critical goals for the development of revolutionary aerospace technologies.
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    • #3
      They should try that in orbit, with no atmosphere and a big assed high powered laser we could really get places.

      Pretty useless for Mars or other interplanetary missions though, it can't handle conjunction trajectories can it?

      Good for the moon or possible far future deep space probes (with a lot of power).
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      • #4
        it's still got a long way to go, methinks, but they've just show that it can work. an impressive feat, too. all they have to do now is work out how to use it in inclement weather for terrestrial flights, and how to keep the beam in focus with enough power for spaceflight.
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        • #5
          Pointless. Too inefficient and easily interrupted. What if something goes wrong? Ion propulsion looks promising though.
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          • #6
            the point is less that lightsails work as to rather that nasa does still do some good work.
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            • #7
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              • #8
                In space you would not need an un-interupted power supply, only enough to give you the push to accelarate and slow down.
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                • #9
                  but lightsails, i think, wouldn't really accelerate fast enough. so you'd need an uninterrupted powersupply for a hella long time.
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                  • #10
                    I guess you could direct more energy to a smaller point with a laser, rather than have to build huge sails ..

                    If you combine it with other technologies like Ion and battery (for storage of surplus energy), then it could be quite useful.

                    If it was a manned mission, id want all kinds of options ... rather than relying on 1 single point of failure.
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                    • #11
                      This might be a way to help launch things into Earth orbit more cheeply.
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