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    Kody = John
    Voltiare = Long ass name
    Couch Commander = Rokossovky

    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    the details will be released in a few days anyway
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    the priorities for the things you have listed
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    defence is pretty low, what we have now will suffice, we have calcuated the chances of counterattack or attack at this time to be minimal
    John says:
    probe foils will be the main source of our worries
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    base growth, SP's and production remain relatively high, we do not want to dedicate the entire faction to this effort
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    a few bases perhaps
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    we continue with current plans, only scale them down slightly in order to complete the military forces
    John says:
    if we're planning invasion force I will need to build those forward coastal bases earlier.
    John says:
    a land base is currently more favourable
    John says:
    because we don't have to put probe defences in
    John says:
    and more defences
    John says:
    our current sea bases are at the rear
    John says:
    so I don't expect a strong force to appear there
    John says:
    however forward costal bases require a stronger defence
    John says:
    as that is where landings will originate
    John says:
    that means a +2 armor infantry and infantry probe each base.
    John says:
    or 2 scout infantry and infantry probe for each of those bases.
    John says:
    or we can have no probe defence, and hope we don't get probed
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    like i said defence is low priority at the moment
    John says:
    the rear sea bases are fine I think with maybe 1 probe defence.
    John says:
    which will be built in 6-10 turns from now
    John says:
    I mean the forward coastal bases that will have yet to be built
    John says:
    just wondering how strongly we need to defend those

    Couch Commander has been added to the conversation.

    John says:
    because in 2 turns I'm going to start planning the next 3 base sites
    John says:
    and if we're building ships for an invasion force
    John says:
    they should be coastal
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    The marshal is here
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    he knows the details better than i do
    John says:
    kay
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    comrade kody was just expressing his conscerns about the defence of the faction
    Couch Commander says:
    ?
    John says:
    I'm trying to figure out the balance, between building sea bases and land bases
    John says:
    I mean coastal bases
    John says:
    rather
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    in light of the planned invasion
    John says:
    the coastal bases mean we can invade a few turns earlier
    John says:
    however they're more vunlerable to attack
    Couch Commander says:
    however more open to probe
    Couch Commander says:
    and sudden assualt
    John says:
    yes especially probe
    John says:
    I originally was going to leave those forward coastal bases until last
    John says:
    because they're less of a production advantage
    John says:
    however from a military standpoint
    John says:
    for an invasion
    John says:
    we should build them
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    From a political standpoint we need not fear for our defence just yet, the other factions most likely are not planning the invasion of anyone else because they are unprepared, just like we are.
    John says:
    it saves us about 5 turns moves transports from the rear of our island
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    If we attack first we have the advantage of surprise, since they are unready to defend their homeland.
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Granted others may be considering the same things, but IMO the risks of such plans coming forth in other factions are minimal.
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    And the rewards of subduing the University great.
    John says:
    I think the pirates may be planning on invasion
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Since with them as our research branch, we need not fear for tech.
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    They haven't met us.
    John says:
    not invading us specifically
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Hence the chances that they are planning on invading us at the moment are low.
    John says:
    but peparing to invade if need be
    John says:
    they've got the sea advantage
    John says:
    so the first thing that will happen is they probe us
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    True
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    In such a case the prudent course of action would be to secure our defense soon after the attack,
    John says:
    the pirates probably will try and probe us early
    John says:
    but the main thing I'm trying to get at
    John says:
    is what balance between fast attack
    John says:
    and security
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Ah
    John says:
    and production
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    But they have to consider diplomatic consequences.
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    My guess is that they will cooperate at first...
    John says:
    probing humans has diplomatic consequences?
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Herculese doesn't seem the aggressive type...
    John says:
    just for the infiltration
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    It would in this game...
    John says:
    apparently you're allowed to infiltrate without informing
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    If we found out that they probed us...
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    We would naturaly consider it an act of agression
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    Is there not a chance of being discovered?
    John says:
    yes
    John says:
    a very good chance
    John says:
    if we don't have probe defences in place
    John says:
    which they will probably assume we don't if they meet us in the next 5 years.
    Couch Commander says:
    I, personally, suggest removing one of their bases from their control as suitible punishment
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    No I meant cannot we detect that the pirates attempted to probe us?
    John says:
    I think it's something like a 50% chance they get away with it
    John says:
    if they use a verteran probe it's like 70% or something
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    therefore there is a 50% chance that we will find out
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    and if we do
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    we have legitimate grounds to consider them hostile
    John says:
    I don't think it will be considered a big thing
    John says:
    buster seems anxious to get sea probes out
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    It may not
    John says:
    and infiltrate everyone
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    at the moment i must be going, things to do IRL
    John says:
    so I think infiltration is an expectation
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    but we will continue this discussion more
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    at a latter date
    John says:
    okay
    John says:
    I'll post the MSN conversations
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    in the mean time state your conscerns to the marshal
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    he is in charge of this operation
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    and he may well speak for me
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum says:
    goodbye

    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum has left the conversation.

    Couch Commander says:
    I have actually got to go to bed right now
    Couch Commander says:
    but we will talk in about 8 hours?
    John says:
    okay goodnight
    John says:
    I'll be asleep in 8 hours I think
    Couch Commander says:
    oh
    Couch Commander says:
    alright
    John says:
    post to forum
    John says:
    I'm putting the MSN conversations up
    Couch Commander says:
    well then tomorrow sometime. I need to format my laptop and rebuilt my desktop
    Couch Commander says:
    GAH!!!
    Couch Commander says:
    not all of them!
    John says:
    what part

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