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    Can anyone give me a satisfactory answer WHY we killed Udai and Kusai?

    I was listening to this local political moronic pundit, and he played some clip a British reporter asked one of our high up's at a press conferance yesterday in Iraq......

    "Mr. General, the American's are famous for their skill in being able to siege a place, to surround it, cordon it off and keep the occupants inside till they surender, they only had 2 ak 47's, why didnt you cordon the area off and wait?"

    The generals response was "Next question"(exact response).


    The political pundit moron started screaming "He said they only had 2 ak 47's? LETS SEE HOW YOU LIKE BEING SHOT AT WITH AK 47's!!!!!!"

    Completley missing the point....... there was no need to endager our men. Afterwards we started unloading rpg's and 50 caliber machine gun fire all over the building.......


    We should of sieged it, tear gassed it or SOMETHING........ why the hell DIDNT WE SIEGE IT??? We had time on our side, we had no shortage of materials, its not like we were in hostile territory...... worst case they commit suicide, best case they live and we put them on trial.

    WHY THE HELL DID WE JUST KILL THEM WHEN WE HAD THE OPTION NOT TO??????????
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    Re: Can anyone give me a satisfactory answer WHY we killed Udai and Kusai?

    Originally posted by Vesayen
    WHY THE HELL DID WE JUST KILL THEM WHEN WE HAD THE OPTION NOT TO??????????
    If we had been intending to kill them do you really think the stand off would have lasted as long as it did?
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    • #3
      I'm simply guessing here. But I assume our combat troops are equipped with weapons that deal death and not submission.
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      • #4
        One reason I can think of is that Iraqis are terrified of them. They were ruthless people, and alot of Iraqis were scared that they would somehow come back to power and punishe those who supported the Americans.

        I think capturing em could of got the U.S some information, but then I also think the attacks on troops there would have increaded greatly in number.

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        • #5
          Because trials, courts and stuff are by default not allowed to take part in your foreign affairs?
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              I suppose it could have had something to do with them choosing to fight it out? But no, Let's blame the US for eliminating these fine upstanding Iraqis.

              (Did you hear the one where Qusay watched and laughed where he had a man's foot sawed off with a circular saw?)
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              • #8
                Well-.. I wasn't there so I don't know what the situation was really like. But, if there was an option to siege them, I think it was worth a shot. But like I said, I was not there and I don't know what the situation was like, so I am in no position to question about there decision.
                It's war, these guys were still fighting, didn't want to give up, so I guess you do what you have to do.. but if it was an option, I think it would have been worth it. I'm kind of repeating myself here.
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                • #9
                  Ves: You feel sorry for those two mother****ers?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Of course we wanted to capture them, it would have been more embarassing for them.

                    You don't want to risk the lives of soldiers trying to do something that isn't really necessary.
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                    • #11
                      I heard somewhere that the building in question was suspected of being linked to an underground tunnel network. So when the planned "quick break in and capture" failed and gunfire was returned, the commander on the spot choose overwhelming force as the option to not give people in the house a chance to possibly escape.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PLATO1003
                        I suppose it could have had something to do with them choosing to fight it out? But no, Let's blame the US for eliminating these fine upstanding Iraqis.

                        (Did you hear the one where Qusay watched and laughed where he had a man's foot sawed off with a circular saw?)

                        I know they are both proboably 2 of the eviliest bastards in the world, we should of still put em on trial if we could........

                        It is REDICULOUS to say "we had to kill them or they would of killed us!".

                        We set up a perimiter and keep em in the house, how the hell do you get shot then?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rah
                          I heard somewhere that the building in question was suspected of being linked to an underground tunnel network. So when the planned "quick break in and capture" failed and gunfire was returned, the commander on the spot choose overwhelming force as the option to not give people in the house a chance to possibly escape.
                          Good point... and plus, the engagement took over 6 hours. That's more than enough time to have them give up. They obviously did not want to be taken alive.
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                          • #14
                            "Can anyone give me a satisfactory answer WHY we killed Udai and Kusai?"

                            There may be some considerations as to try to capture them alive, but overall I'm just tempted to say: "Why not?"
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                            • #15
                              suppose it could have had something to do with them choosing to fight it out?
                              I heard somewhere that the building in question was suspected of being linked to an underground tunnel network. So when the planned "quick break in and capture" failed and gunfire was returned, the commander on the spot choose overwhelming force as the option to not give people in the house a chance to possibly escape.
                              And your question is what?
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