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I want to read some philosophy books and want your opinions on which philosophers I should read. I know of Rand, Kant, Nietsche, and Sartre.
Can you give a brief explanation on what their core theories are/is?
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all good, though i would skip rand If you like the matrix, read descarte. Also, philosophy is a very progressive thing. I would recommend you start earlier with some presocratics, particularly Epicurus, and the Atomists. It isn't heavy reading, and won't take you long. Then, you should spent atleast a brief amount of time on Socrates, Plato's "forms" and aristotle's Ethics. A lot of what is addressed by later philosophers specifically refers to these ideas, and you should have some understanding of them, atleast on a general level.
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Rene Descartes is an interesting read, his "Dualist" ideas are interestign to say the least, they lend support to relgioius things.
to sum it up in a setence, "there exists something not of my body that is still me, and that is all i can prove exists".
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Descartes' Dualism probably stemmed from Plato, esp. "The Cave."
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Hmm... Bhuddism can give a few pointers, but I wouldn't recommend going totally Bhuddist. I don't think of it as a religion - there's no form of worship!
I like Thomas Aquinas and Merton... a bit old fashioned for some. heavily based on theology rather than philosophy.
Winston Churchill's books are a bit stodgy, and much more political than pure philosophy. But it does give a few pointers on progressive ideas.
I always found Nietsche unreadable. Clearly I'm not iup to that level yet. I'm not even sure I want to be!
And yes, the Greek classic philosopher's are still worth reading. It gives you a better appreciation of the later stuff.
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Originally posted by Frankychan
I want to read some philosophy books and want your opinions on which philosophers I should read. I know of Rand, Kant, Nietsche, and Sartre.
Kant is for Eurocoms. Read Hobbes
No, I´d recommend Kant, but (at least in German - don´t know English translations) it is the most difficult read I ever had (and I only read some things from him).
Reason is the central component of his philosophy. Reason, he says, (not interests or instict) "demands" (hm, not sure if that is explained correctly) certain behaviour. This is not realistic you might say, but Kant is an Idealist. His ideals are certainly worth to strive for
I got a lot of use out of Habermas's Discourse Ethics, but I oughta warn you that his writing is incredibly dense. He uses these bizarre, nonsensical indexing systems in his writing, and I suspect that he does it just to make reading him all the more difficult.
I've been intending to read Sartre, but I've had that intention for the past two years -- it's difficult to find the time.
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He uses these bizarre, nonsensical indexing systems in his writing, and I suspect that he does it just to make reading him all the more difficult.
Must be a conspiracy of philosophers.
Habermas is a must for me for the future. Maybe they´ll have a course at the uni which is related to his works then I could take the chance and read him then, it´s better if you have some other guys around who struggle with the same stuff. If not, then I´ll read him just for me.
His favorite tactic is to fool you into believing that he's using a basic heirarchical outline system, when in fact there's no heirarchy involved at all.
"Section I.A.1? Sure, makes sense, we'll start at the beginning!"
"Section I.A.2? Hooray, next section!"
"Section I.B.2? Wait just a minute..."
"Section II.C.2? **** off, Habermas."
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He feels that the moral way through life is to do whatever it takes to amass the most power for yourself and be the most advanced, powerful human possible. Do whatever you want, whenever you want, and don't let anyone else get in your way.
His is the philosophy of bullies and despots everywhere.
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try Hume's An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding for some good Empiricist epistemology and metaphysics, but my favorite still has to be the Chuangtzu which is the second most famous Taoist text...
If you like the matrix, read descarte. Also, philosophy is a very progressive thing. I would recommend you start earlier with some presocratics, particularly Epicurus, and the Atomists. It isn't heavy reading, and won't take you long. Then, you should spent atleast a brief amount of time on Socrates, Plato's "forms" and aristotle's Ethics. A lot of what is addressed by later philosophers specifically refers to these ideas, and you should have some understanding of them, atleast on a general level.
I hope he uses footnotes longer than the text above too 
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