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  • The ABSOLUTLEY (un)OFFICIAL "What the hell REALLY happaned in the Matrix"thread

    Warning-This threads purpose is ENTIRLEY to discuss what happaned in the new matrix movie-as it is confusing-the entire thread is ment to be spoilers-so dont read this thread if you havent seen the movie.
























    Okay, what the hell is REALLY going on.... there are COUNTLESS inconsistencies(I was going to start posting em but too many for me to keep track as I saw the movie.... I wish I had it on DVD now or something with a notepad to take notes LOL) and it just dosent seem to "work"....

    What is ACTUALLY happening-were there previous zions, was this all replayed before, is the oracle a "good" guy or a bad, was the "architect" saying the truth? Did Neo stop those machines near the end, or did that ship EMP them, was zion really destroyed(this time), did none of this really happaned and will be revealed to be a dream? What if the entire movie, even when they are "out" of the matrix, they are still really IN it-for the entire first 2 movies(my theory).


    Thoughts?










    Also HOW THE HELL IS NEO CLARVOYANT???? This is the biggest problem in the movie......if he is "out" of the matrix he cant possible be clairvoyant because you cant REALLY predict events(dune idea... perfect knowledge of the past he perfect pradictability(universe is a machine)) but that is ONLY possible inside the matrix, so how did he have vision while outside it?

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    Well, according to the architect, at least some form of this scenario has played out six times (The One coming to the architect, and Zion being destroyed, that is). The Oracle's loyalties are, I believe, still questionable, but, having seen the preview after the credits, I believe she is on the side of the humans.

    I believe that Neo did, in fact, stop the sentinels. How is subject to question.

    I don't think this will turn out to be a dream, as that would be a horrible plot move. And Neo's clairvoyance is, I think, explainable through the fact that his mind has been connected to the Matrix, and he can, therefore, predict events that will occur there, even when outside the Matrix.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
      Well, according to the architect, at least some form of this scenario has played out six times (The One coming to the architect, and Zion being destroyed, that is). The Oracle's loyalties are, I believe, still questionable, but, having seen the preview after the credits, I believe she is on the side of the humans.

      I believe that Neo did, in fact, stop the sentinels. How is subject to question.

      I don't think this will turn out to be a dream, as that would be a horrible plot move. And Neo's clairvoyance is, I think, explainable through the fact that his mind has been connected to the Matrix, and he can, therefore, predict events that will occur there, even when outside the Matrix.

      Unless you want to say its magic, the only way to be clarvoyant is with perfect (or near perfect-for a % of likeliness of events) knowledge of the past-with that you can extrapolate future events.

      Its safe to assume that the matrix has quantum computing(storing information on the variance electron shells of atoms) which is how it has seemingly limitless processing power-so how could Neo do it outside the matrix? A human brain cant hold that kinda info.... heck-if the machines can be clarvoyant, why dont they just extrapolate the best possible future?

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      • #4
        He could if there are multiple layers of matricies.

        However, the problem with this idea is that each additional Matrix-within-a-matrix is gonna cause the power requirements to run it to go up exponetially.

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        • #5
          that french accented ***** guy might not be a *****. He might have been the "previous one" and locked the keymaker because of what he did on previous matrix.

          Not much evidence, but its just a hunch.
          :-p

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
            The Oracle's loyalties are, I believe, still questionable, but, having seen the preview after the credits, I believe she is on the side of the humans.
            there is a preview after the credits?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Apocalypse
              there is a preview after the credits?
              That suprised me as well. I'm going to have to see the movie again to see the preview now.
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              • #8
                luckily, we had a geek among our group sitting us down as soon as we were about to leave.

                Trailer was NOT worth waiting 3 minutes thru the credit.
                :-p

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                • #9
                  Personally, I hope that the third movie is nothing but two hours of dancing.
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                  • #10
                    Perv.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by loinburger
                      Personally, I hope that the third movie is nothing but two hours of dancing.
                      Real Cancun hits theathers sometime this summer.
                      :-p

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                      • #12
                        Bah. Girls Gone Wild hit video years ago.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zero
                          Real Cancun hits theathers sometime this summer.
                          It's been out for a few weeks.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by loinburger
                            Bah. Girls Gone Wild hit video years ago.
                            which one? doggy style or sexy sorority?
                            :-p

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                            • #15
                              I doubt there's a difference.
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