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One entry found for patriot.
Main Entry: pa·tri·ot
Pronunciation: 'pA-trE-&t, -"ät, chiefly British 'pa-trE-&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriOtEs, from patria lineage, from patr-, patEr father
Date: 1605
: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests
Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread.
Your thoughts aren't solicited here.
You can be a Patriot, and still understand that change in anything is always desireable.
Circumstances change, government is evolutionary.
So, given the fact that your country could probably improve on some things,
who is a Patriot here?
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

Besides me?![]()
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

Me.
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Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it, so I'll say it:Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread.
This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.

I love my country, accept its authority and support its values.

Don't give a rat's ass if you aren't, just move on to bother people in another thread.
Your thoughts aren't solicited here.
When did that ever work Sloww?
I love my country, which is why I dsitrust its current authorities.
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake :(
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...Originally posted by Tuomerehu
This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.![]()
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O

Me. and i agree with Gepap completely
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
I am. Even when I hate it's policies, and system, I still love it and it's worth fighting for. So, sure..
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

Ge :
The authority of your country and its current authorities are completely different things.

This thread is wasting server space. It serves no use whatsoever, apart from elitism.Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...
That's the primary reason why I said what I thought.
EDIT2:
nm.He has also been warned...
Last edited by RGBVideo; April 13, 2003 at 13:24.

What does authority mean in the context you place it? authority over one-self as citizen, authority as defining its actions to be legitimate?Originally posted by Spiffor
Ge :
The authority of your country and its current authorities are completely different things.
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake :(
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

How was his post different from Slowwhand's comments of "dork threads" in a number of places, Ming?Originally posted by Ming
Another post like this and your account will be a waste of space since you will be restricted...![]()
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

He has also been warned...
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O

To me, "supported your country's authority" means that you consider it legitimate that your country can exert coertion on you (coertion in general, you can disagree with the particulars, such as the fantastic patriot act). It means that you accept to pay taxes to your country, and that police and public coercion is your country's job.Originally posted by GePap
What does authority mean in the context you place it? authority over one-self as citizen, authority as defining its actions to be legitimate?
It is also acknowledging the legitimacy of your country's authorities, even when you disagree with them. I may hate Chirac, I must acknowledge this guy is my legitimate president. I know Bush has lost the election, but you can still believe in the legitimacy of your authorities if you think such a coup won't happen again.

Well, if defined as such, I do believe in its authority but not its current leaders.
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake :(
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

I think you are splitting hairs, Spiffor, but I am too tired to write a thesis right now.![]()
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

What does "splitting hairs" mean ?
being a patriot doesn't mean blindly following your leaders.
it means doing your duty as a citizen, and keeping a tight rein on them.
it's a given you get behind your president when it's your national security at risk; it's not like you have a choice between him and yosemite sam.
that said, you can still criticize him/her. you can still protest. you can still exercise all the rights you have.
those who were protesting against the war are just as much patriots as those who were supporting bush in the war.
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I'm a patriot who regularly exercises the right to question my leaders and their policies at all times. Blind devotion is extremely dangerous, and should be thoroughly discouraged.

I love my country. I distrust my government. I will fight for change in my country because I love it. I would put my life on the line to help my country (a la Septemer 11th). I will not fight wars that are fought without a just cause towards the health and safety of my country (a la Iraq).
"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

I am a patriot. The true patriots protect their country from their government.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini
^^^^^
My comment made it into your sig? I'm honored! And I applaud your obvious intelligence and common sense.![]()

hehehe. thanks.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

Well, since you were the first...Originally posted by Tuomerehu
Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it, so I'll say it:
This thread is pathetic, braindead waste of space.
Speaking of brain-dead, can you not read?
Understand English ? Hablo Inglés?
I said, I don't give a rat's ass about people like you.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Rather than be redundant, this goes for whomever follows, that is of like mindlessness.
Last edited by SlowwHand; April 13, 2003 at 14:05.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

Amusing.Speaking of brain-dead, can you not read?
Understand English ? Habla Ingles ?
I said, I don't give a rat's ass about people like you.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I don't give a rat's ass about people like you.Very mature attitude, there.Judging from this, it seems that you don't realize it

As Ming noted, I've been warned.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
How was his post different from Slowwhand's comments of "dork threads" in a number of places, Ming?
I can't point out the fact that you're a dork, because it gets me in trouble, but you know it anyway, so I needn't bother.
I'll tell you what, any further postings of a negative nature in this thread, and I believe the conclusion may be drawn that the poster is a "closet patriot".
Which is even sadder.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
he's finnish. perhaps he's a finnish patriot who thinks the us is a negative force on finnish interests?
B♭3

I can't point out the fact that you're a dork, because it gets me in trouble, but you know it anyway, so I needn't bother.
Signature material.
Let me guess, you didn't said that I was a 'closet patriot', either?I'll tell you what, any further postings of a negative nature in this thread, and I believe the conclusion may be drawn that the poster is a "closet patriot".
I'll STFU now in this thread, so you don't need to yell at me for avoiding the loss of your status.

Tuomerehu... You are suspended for 48 hours for attempting to start a flame war. You should take my warnings more seriously in the future.
And Slow... I've told you to ignore people who are taking shots at you... We will deal with those people, as I just did. So just chill.
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
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