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    Well, chaps, Your Holiness, Blessed Father, and Cardinals of the Church,

    As you know, King Togas, Ordained by God, has purchased the Gospels of Sts. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John from the Arabs for a hefty price. Yes, that's right, Polytheism was, unfortunately, all a bit rubbish. In fact, we recently discovered that the chap who invented it was a Vaudevillian.

    Inspired by the truths of the Gospels, I have, for efficient spreading of the Good News, purchased the whole of Vatican Hill, which now serves as its own city. Vatican City will be the home of the Pontiff, and the Cardinals, and the seat of the Universal Church. Hip-hip, hoo-ray!

    So, where St. Peter's Basillica is concerned, how about it? White, or pink marble, eh?

    Squid is available at some decent taberna near the construction site.

    Inside the Curia, the Cardinals will convene to hand over the keys of the Church to Cardinal Tacticus, who will be Pope No. 1. He can choose his own titles, too, God bless him.

    So, chaps, let us set up the Church's foundations, eh, what?

    So far, as Cardinals, we have...
    Tacticus...soon to be Pope,
    Calamari...
    and Cian.

    Cardinal Fernand de History Guy Calamari
    Empire growing,
    Pleasures flowing,
    Fortune smiles and so should you.

  • #2
    OOC: We don't have Monotheism yet, but I suppose it won't hurt to discuss how it will affect our nation. In my opinion, this technology should have a dramatic change to our roleplay.

    First off, Spain will adopt one faith, and one faith only. All Spaniards will worship that faith or else. We must decide if we want to take on a historical faith like Christianity or take on one of our fictious faiths.

    We will have a church. We will have a "Pope" or other major religious leader. The Church will handle justice and crimes and inquisitions. The Pope can name Cardinals, etc, and should have a say in how the nation is run ... which should focus mostly on the happiness of the people.

    Alternativly, my "Most Trusted Advisor" can become the Pope.

    We MAY have a religious city like Vatican City created. I leave this idea up for debate.

    If you have other ideas, please post them.

    --Togas
    Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
    Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
    Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
    Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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    • #3
      idea: Those who are not dukes may choose to be Cardinals. The Cardinals should convene and elect a Pope.

      --Togas
      Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
      Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
      Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
      Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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      • #4
        ooc:

        I'd like to suggest that Vatican City be an alloted portion of Madrid, actually.

        Also, I thought it had been agreed that we'd do Christianity, so as to be a bit more...Spanish.

        I agree where the Pope is concerned.
        Empire growing,
        Pleasures flowing,
        Fortune smiles and so should you.

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        • #5
          My Lord King,

          The makeshift Curia is now open for the election of the Holy Spanish Pontiff of the Universal Church.

          Cardinal Fernand de History Guy Calamari
          Empire growing,
          Pleasures flowing,
          Fortune smiles and so should you.

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          • #6
            The House of Tacticus would like to nominate Marcos Navarro Tacticus as the first Spanish Pontiff.

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            • #7
              *Cardinal Calamari, in his vermilion outfit that denotes the position of Cardinal, struts forward in a squid-like pose*

              I second that motion, and bless it, in the Name of the Most Holy Trinity.

              May Cardinal Tacticus be our first Pope, and our most holy one.
              Empire growing,
              Pleasures flowing,
              Fortune smiles and so should you.

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              • #8
                The House Cian nominates Aidun Cian the older, to become the first Pope.
                "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                • #9
                  Pablo Arenhos Winterius, adopted son of Polaris Winterius, nominates for cardinal.
                  Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                  Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                  Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                  • #10
                    Togas, I think Santiago de Compostalla will serve uintil we conquer some city of GoW or ND.

                    But Santiago should get a cathedral in time, or do you want the clergy to have to hold their divine services in a pagan temple?

                    Aidun Cian the older,

                    Cardinal
                    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                    • #11
                      I, the younger son of Thud Quixote I, Paul Quixote, wish to become ordained as a cardinal of the Church.

                      (christianity seems to be the logical choice for spain... but if someone comes up with another religion that is fine)
                      "The Enrichment Center is required to inform you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake"
                      Former President, C3SPDGI

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                      • #12
                        Ehm, Togas, we are getting a lot of cardinals, perhaps we should have bishops and cardinals: The bishop of Madrid is the arch bishop, the old priests the cardinals and the new priests the bishops...
                        This does not mean thet the old priests are superior to the bishops...

                        Aidun Cian the older,

                        Cardinal
                        "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                        Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                        • #13
                          Cardinal Cian,

                          I believe you do not understand ecclesiastical matters. You see, the Cardinal is the highest Bishop. A missionary Bishop can be sent out to his own diocese to serve as Cardinal and also as the Bishop of that region. The Cardinals are the Bishops who have the right to elect the Pope, or can be the Pope.

                          Cardinals Winterius and Quixote, we welcome you.

                          Cardinal Calamari
                          Empire growing,
                          Pleasures flowing,
                          Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                          • #14
                            Well, I understand the catholic church very well:
                            [ooc]I'm very known with it[/ooc]

                            Bishops serve as regional representives of the cardinals and the Pope.

                            Each province of the Church has a cardinal at it's head and bishops under him for the smaller regions. A bishop has several deans under him and the deans have local priests under them.

                            Considering Spain a province of the Church, it should have but 1 cardinal, some bishops, etc.

                            Bishops may be formally lower than cardinals, I do not want to deny others the richt to vote for the new Pope, but five judges, isn't that a bit too much?
                            It was already complex enough with the watcher judging on his own.

                            Aidun Cian the older,

                            Cardinal
                            "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                            Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                            • #15
                              Grrr...you are right.

                              Of course...if the Curia only has one Cardinal...he may as well be a Pope. It would be pointless.

                              Besides, sadly, the Holy Mother Church has not put missions anywhere else yet. These Arabs were nearly won over, but found something else called Islam.

                              [ooc] Meet another Catholic, old chap. [/ooc]

                              Cardinal Calamari
                              Empire growing,
                              Pleasures flowing,
                              Fortune smiles and so should you.

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