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    WASHINGTON - Declaring that America's security should not be dictated by protesters, President Bush (news - web sites) said Tuesday he would not be swayed from compelling Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) to disarm. "We will deal with him," Bush said as U.S. and British diplomats weighed another bid for U.N. backing.

    "War is my last choice," Bush said at the White House as echoes of anti-war protests circled the globe. "But the risk of doing nothing is even a worse option as far as I am concerned."

    Standing firmly against skeptical allies as well as the demonstrators, Bush said: I owe it to the American people to secure this country. I will do so."

    Administration officials in Washington and at the United Nations (news - web sites) in New York were discussing the possible gains as well as the risk of a diplomatic defeat if the United States proposed a new resolution to the Security Council to endorse force as an option to disarm Iraq.

    One U.S. official said Tuesday there was no decision on a text or even on whether to go ahead, though White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said, "I think it will be a simple and rather straightforward resolution."

    Bush said a second resolution "would be useful," although "we don't need a second resolution. It's clear this guy could even care less about the first resolution. He's in total defiance."

    In Rome, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) said Iraq had to "move very fast" to heed the call of the international community and cooperate with U.N. inspectors or face possible war. But he said it was up to the Security Council to decide if the inspections had gone on long enough.

    France, with support from Russia and China, does not accept the U.S. view that the Security Council effectively endorsed force as an option to disarm Iraq in an earlier resolution that warned of "serious consequences" if Saddam persisted in defying U.N. demands.

    With some 50 countries lined up to speak to the council in a session that could go over until Wednesday, early action by the United States and its close ally, Britain, was not expected.

    Diplomats at the U.N. said a draft resolution could be circulated late Wednesday.

    As for the protests around the world by millions of people opposed to war with Iraq, Bush said they were irrelevant to his duty to protect America.

    "Size of protest, it's like deciding, 'Well I'm going to decide policy based up on a focus group.' The role of a leader is to decide policy based upon the security — in this case — security of the people," he said.

    "Democracy is a beautiful thing, and that people are allowed to express their opinion," he said.

    "Some in the world don't view Saddam Hussein as a risk to peace," he added. "I respectfully disagree."

    Last Friday, an overwhelming majority of the 15 council members followed France's lead and called for extending U.N. weapons searches in Iraq. Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites)'s argument that the searches were virtually useless was overridden.

    On Tuesday, however, the Bush administration drew some support in Europe.

    Thirteen incoming members of the European Union (news - web sites) endorsed a joint declaration in Brussels, Belgium, that warned Saddam he had one last chance to disarm.

    French President Jacques Chirac scoffed that the 13 had "missed a good opportunity to keep quiet."

    In a parallel action backing the United States, 10 former communist countries, seven of them EU candidates, reiterated their support for Washington's position on Saddam.

    Spokesman Fleischer did not fault Chirac, saying he simply had another approach to the Iraqi threat and has always leveled with Bush privately and publicly.

    Fleischer suggested the same could not be said of German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, declining to say whether the German leader also told Bush the same thing in private as he said in public.

    At the White House, Bush gave no ground.

    "Hopefully, Saddam Hussein will disarm," he said. "If he chooses not to disarm, as I have been saying for a long time, we will lead a coalition of the willing to disarm him."

    But one valued ally, Turkey, hesitated to permit thousands of U.S. soldiers on its soil.

    "We are not going to the parliament tomorrow," Prime Minister Abdullah Gul said Monday, backing away from a pledge for a vote Tuesday. "We have some concerns on economic and political issues."

    Turkey has been negotiating with the Bush administration for a large assistance package. Bush said Turkey had "no better friend than the American government" and he was confident details could be worked out.

    According to a proposal put forward late Monday, Turkey is asking $10 billion in grants and up to $20 billion in long-term loans, diplomats said.

    Turks and Americans had been negotiating on the basis of $4 billion to $6 billion in grants and $10 billion to $15 billion in loans, according to news reports and diplomats. The grants reportedly would be split between cash and military debt write-offs.

    Next weekend, Bush will meet at his ranch in Texas with a European supporter, Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar of Spain. Another, Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) of Britain is under enormous pressure to back away from conflict with Iraq.

    Praising both men as courageous, Bush said, "These are men of vision. They see the task at hand. And I'm proud to call them allies. And we'll work together for the sake of peace."
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    Re: Bush To Ignore Voice of the People

    Oh wow. A conservative ignoring the people.....THATS a first
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    • #3
      The voice of the people is Congress. Write your Congressman to cut funding for the Iraq war.
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      • #4
        Are you really surprised? He's been ignoring the will of the people since before he was elected. Why should he start now?

        Or to put it more humorously, "Bush: Why should I listen to the American people? They didn't elect me."
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          The voice of the people is Congress. Write your Congressman to cut funding for the Iraq war.
          Thats just like saying that the voice of me is through my doctor or my lawyer or something stuipd like that.

          No, the voice of me is through ME, and the voice of the people is through the PEOPLE. Not some beurocrat up in Washington.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            The voice of the people is Congress. Write your Congressman to cut funding for the Iraq war.
            It's too late, funding has been granted. It would take an act of Congress to cut it off, and that would meet a Presidential veto. The only way to stop this war is to raise the stakes.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #7
              "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                It would take an act of Congress to cut it off,
                I believe that's the reason I told you to write your Congressman. If the anti-war movement is really as massive as people claim, it shouldn't be too hard to manage.

                Incidentally, I was under the impression that the funding for the Iraq War wasn't in the budget. How could it be greanted already?
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                • #9
                  66% support among the American people, the people to whom he is answerable.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    66% support among the American people, the people to whom he is answerable.
                    I'm still hearing that the polls say support is incredibly low without UN backing....
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                    • #11
                      Not only that, US support is based upon incorrect propaganda.
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                      • #12
                        I agree with DanS. The American people are largely behind Bush. Even the Democrat party is split on this issue.
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                        • #13
                          Bush's stock is dropping rapidly in my book for this dilly dallying. He is making us look weak by spending too much time with the UN. Now, as I feared, Iranian troops have entered Irag and that bodes ill.

                          We need to withdraw our UN delegation and remove our diplomats from France and Germany and hit Saddam hard, now.

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                          • #14
                            I'm still hearing that the polls say support is incredibly low without UN backing...

                            Without UN backing, but with a limited number of allies, removing Hussein through war has 57% support.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by David Floyd
                              Not only that, US support is based upon incorrect propaganda.

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