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    Call to Power -- Play-by-Email Ratings and Rankings

    Last Updated: 15-APR-2001 (updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time)

    RANK NAME................... RATING WIN. LOSS NAT.TR

    0001 KLAIR.................. 23.256 0027 0000 FRA...
    0002 MOBIUS................. 22.833 0029 0002 GBR.EN
    0003 RICK_ELKINS............ 22.372 0020 0009 USA.NY
    0004 SWISSY................. 21.782 0016 0003 USA.IL
    0005 THEBIRDMAN............. 21.600 0063 0043 DEN...
    0006 BERXPERT............... 21.023 0014 0001 MEX...
    0007 ZOBOZEWARRIOR.......... 21.000 0000 0000 FRA...
    0008 BLACKICE............... 20.995 0026 0007 CAN.ON
    0009 SLAMP.................. 20.964 0022 0008 FRA...
    0010 KEYGEN................. 20.878 0014 0011 GRE...
    0011 ST_JON................. 20.791 0043 0042 GBR.EN
    0012 MAX_WEBSTER............ 20.674 0016 0011 CAN...
    0013 LUNG................... 20.385 0020 0013 AUS.SW
    0014 FRANSES................ 20.264 0022 0016 NED...
    0015 STAVROS................ 20.147 0062 0026 GER...
    0016 KRALJ_MATJAZ........... 20.051 0034 0009 SLO...
    0017 BILHQ.................. 19.737 0003 0001 INA...
    0018 NUKE_BOY............... 19.357 0003 0002 USA.FL
    0019 QUINNS................. 19.285 0051 0049 USA.CA
    0020 NOTUNCOMMON............ 19.174 0012 0010 DEN...
    0021 DUGRIK................. 19.000 0000 0000 USA.TX
    0022 FRAZE.................. 18.987 0012 0031 GBR...
    0023 STEVE5304.............. 18.626 0002 0003 USA.WI
    0024 MAESTRO................ 18.592 0004 0010 BEL...
    0025 DUCK_HUNTER............ 18.500 0007 0020 USA.FL
    0026 ARTHUR................. 18.494 0014 0039 USA.UT
    0027 KRASH.................. 18.479 0010 0010 GBR.EN
    0028 PAUL................... 18.375 0016 0033 NED...
    0029 KING_THOR.............. 18.199 0029 0051 USA.FL
    0030 BONAPARTE II........... 18.000 0000 0000 USA.NY
    0031 JPWW................... 18.000 0000 0000 USA.GA
    0032 PN..................... 18.000 0000 0000 GBR.EN
    0033 ELROND................. 17.850 0000 0000 GER...
    0034 DARTH_VIPER............ 17.621 0010 0021 NED...
    0035 YETI................... 17.598 0005 0008 USA.WI
    0036 420.................... 17.572 0002 0013 USA.IL
    0037 SOLVER................. 17.325 0015 0032 LAT...
    0038 PHOENIXCAGER........... 17.273 0004 0011 SGP...
    0039 THE_TRUE_DEMOSTHENES... 17.041 0006 0057 GBR.EN
    0040 CUAICH................. 17.000 0000 0000 CAN.ON


    Frequently Asked Questions

    How do I become rated? Simply post, to this thread, the highest level of victory that you ever attained, (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, or Deity), in a "single player" game of Call to Power, along with the Nation and Territory that you presently reside. That's it! You'll see your name appear on the above list within a week.
    How do the ratings change? See the below CTP Ratings Links section for an in depth discussion.
    On whose turn should the Power Graph be reported? It doesn't matter because the Power Graph remains the same during the cycle of the turn. However, we recommend that the 1st player (blue) always report the Power Graph results.

    Adjustments to Ratings

    New Players to Add:
    Pending *9th Turn Processing:
    Pending Elimination:
    Pending Delinquency Adjustment (- 0.1 points):

    Current Rated Games In Progress*:

    (Turn rating started in parentheses)
    1. R2_Islands(0) - Solver, Fraze, King Thor, Kralj Matjaz, Quinns.
    2. Love_Conquers?(50) - St Jon, Mobius, (Keygen), Stavros, Rick Elkins, King Thor.
    3. Eagles_at_War(0) - TheBirdMan, Solver, Kralj Matjaz, Notuncommon, Fraze, Krash, Arthur, Quinns.
    4. Lung's_Fast(86) - Lung, Stavros, Paul, St Jon, TheBirdMan.
    5. Do_Some_PBEM(49) - Solver, TheBirdMan, Blackice, Paul, Krash, (Stavros).
    6. Fixed_Game(30) - King Thor, Stavros, (PN), Keygen, Quinns.
    7. Team_Horses(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, Darth Viper, Blackice, Quinns, Franses, Nuke Boy.
    8. Monkey_1(187) - Yeti, (TheBirdMan), Swissy, (Nuke Boy), Slamp, Paul, (Max Webster), (Fraze).
    9. Monkey_2(226) - Yeti, (Max Webster), (Germans - A/I), Lung, Paul, (Zaphod), (TheBirdMan).
    10. Conquer!!!(23) - Bilhq, TheBirdMan, (Steve5304), Stavros, Paul, King Thor, (Jafo).
    11. Giant_Bird(29) - TheBirdMan, (Stavros), Notuncommon, Franses, Darth Viper, (King Thor).
    12. Dutcheese(119) - (Fraze), TheBirdMan, Klair, Duck_Hunter, Max_Webster King_Thor, Slamp, St_Jon.
    13. Youngbloods(0) - 420, Darth_Viper, Kralj_Matjaz, Phoenixcager, BerXpert, Blackice.
    14. Fly High(29) - TheBirdMan, Notuncommon, Krash, (Fraze), King_Thor, (Arthur), Bilhq.
    15. Team Spirit(29) - Stavros, Franses, Keygen, Arthur, Maestro, TheBirdMan, Swissy, King Thor
    16. Veterans In Arms(0) - Keygen, TheBirdMan, Paul, Slamp, The_True_Demosthenes, Swissy
    17. Young v. Old Blood(0) - Keygen, Blackice, St_Jon, Yeti, TheBirdMan, 420
    18. Youngbloods Gathering(0) - Phoenixcager, Blackice, 420, BerXpert, Yeti, Steve5304
    19. Another World(0) - Darth_Viper, Bonaparte_II, 420, Nuke_Boy, Dugrik, Steve5304
    20. Lungmatch 2.1(66) - Max_Webster, Lung, Arthur
    21. Lungmatch 2.2(0) - Keygen, Solver, Swissy
    22. Strife(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, PN, JPWW, Blackice, Nuke_Boy, Cuaich
    23. Lungmatch 3.2(8) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, TheBirdMan
    24. Swissy2(238) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, Lung, (Moral Hazard)
    25. High Voltage(0) - PN, jpww, Blackice, Dugrik, (eohian)


    * A player in parentheses is unrated in that game.

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    Related CTP PBEM Ratings Links


    TENPL639_AM
    --- Rankings for Apolyton Call to Power Play-by-Email (PBEM).

    TENPL641_AM
    --- History of Ratings for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.

    TEN619_AM
    --- *9th Turn Game Results for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.

    RATINGS FORMULAS
    --- Formulas Used in Determining Ratings Calculations.

    SOLVER'S PBEM CHARTS Download
    --- Charts Related to CTP Players Wins and Losses.

    PBEM LADDERS thread
    --- Early Discussions on the Foundation of the CTP PBEM Rating System.

    POWER GRAPH INTERPRETED --- Discussions on Call to Power's Power Graph.

    COMPANY, BATTALION, BRIGADE, DIVISION... YIKES
    --- Discussions on the Standarization of the Groupings of Military Units in CTP.
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    TENPL639_AM Report Legend:

    NAT.TR - Nation and Territory of Primary Residence.

    PBEM RATING - Starts with an initial value depending upon the highest CtP AI level ever honestly defeated: Chieftain=14; Warlord=16; Prince=17; King=18; Emperor=19; Deity=21. This rating changes by winning or losing to other rated players, (at the *9 turn mark every ten turns), while playing "rated" PBEM games. See the CtP Multiplayer topic "PBEM Ladders" for details on how this rating change is calculated.

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    TEN619_AM Report Concepts:

    Win/Loss - A Win counts by having a "higher" Power Graph rating at the ten turn mark during a "rated" game. For example, in a five player game, at the ten turn mark, each player will receive four results - 4 wins and 0 losses, or 3 wins and 1 loss, etc.

    Delinquency - 24 or more hours late counts as a delinquency. Each delinquency deducts -0.1 ratings points from player's rating.

    Inactivity Adjustment - Players will lose 5/100ths of a ratings point (-0.05) for each month they go without a ratings adjustment, (i.e. remain inactive in the ratings for an entire month).
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    Elimination Rule

    If, in a rated game, a player:
    a) resigns;
    b) changes status from "rated" to "unrated";
    c) gets annihilated; or
    d) gets "next turned" for three turns in a row,

    then every remaining player in that game "DEFEATS" THAT PLAYER THREE TIMES (as measured by the normal ten turn phase defeat).

    For example, in a 5 player game, the first person who gets "eliminated from the ratings in that game" would be "defeated" 12 times (as measured by the normal power graph 10 turn defeat), (3 multiplied by 4 remaining players.) This equates to an average decrease in ratings of about 2 to 3 points for the eliminated player. The second player eliminated would be defeated 9 times (3 multiplied by 3 remaining players), ... etc.

    In the case of resignation or three consecutive "next turns", then that resigned player's civilization will be "next turned" until a replacement player, (either rated or unrated), takes over that civilization's control.
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    Alien Life Victory Rule

    If a player wins by completing the Alien Project, then that player defeats every remaining player three times.
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    Rating Change Table: - (example +2 to -2)

    DIFFERENCE.. RATING
    IN RATINGS.. CHANGE (+ for winner, - for loser)
    +2.0 ........ 0.083
    +1.5 ........ 0.118
    +1.0 ........ 0.167
    +0.5 ........ 0.222
    =0.0 ........ 0.250
    -0.5 ........ 0.278
    -1.0 ........ 0.333
    -1.5 ........ 0.382
    -2.0 ........ 0.417


    *** NOTICE TO ALL GAME STARTERS IN RATED GAMES ***

    Please post all of your turn *9 power graph results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread). (I don't look at all of the game threads in progress.)

    Also, a reminder that all APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:
    1. Official game name;
    2. Player list (in turn order) of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please). Place players that wish to be "unrated" in parentheses;
    3. All desired rated players must have a current rating -- (please state their initial rating if they do not have a current rating).
    4. The current turn number;
    5. The turn number you want the game to become "rated".


    [This message has been edited by quinns (edited April 27, 2001).]

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    *** Ratings Updated ***

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    Hey, I didn't knew Love Conquers was rated.
    Quinns, put me out for this game .

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    Wow the powergraph can really fluctate early in a game! I remember last time I took a peek at it in Youngblood gathering I was second last...now I'm second hi! Must have been that invasion...err I mean exploration force I'm building

    Ahh, Monkey2 world...Lung, enjoy your country while you can...you're failed invasion is an example to all who challenge the Mighty French! Judgement day is approaching for the Austrailians! I will watch in glee as I lob nukes across the vast ocean to your defensless country! Hee Hee Hee!



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    Cool, I'm in the TOP 10 in only 2 ratings!

    That's fluctuation at powergraph

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    Congrats BERXPERT! You can fall as quickly as you go up though! Be careful!! There are some mighty good players around here.

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    Thanx!

    Yes, I know I'll go down in the next rates, but I'm happy (and surprised) with this result... not too bad for a youngblood isn't it?

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    Quinns,

    How does the rating system work for games where there has been a substitute? I'm playing in two games as a sub and I beleive they are both rated. One of the games, I'm in a particularly challenging situation. Where I'm at in the games is not really attributable to my skills or lack thereof. Can I opt out of those games for ranking purposes or doesn't it really matter?

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    Quinns, did you put me out of the Love Conquers?
    I didn't knew it was rated and I just joined it.
    I don't desire to get rated for the specific game.

    [This message has been edited by Keygen (edited March 27, 2001).]

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    Hail Nuke Boy, heh love that name....

    Are you a permanant sub? If so suck it up my friend...I'm in 2 games where I took over, and one was, still is, in a "challenging" situation. Not to mention when I agreed to be rated I only beat warlord in SP, and now have beat Diety a couple times....So I started dead last in the ratings.......

    Up for the challenge? I mean that's why you play PBEM, right? The thing I noticed is you can get ALOT of your objectives accomplished with offline diplomacy. In monkey2 I had to call up every bit of game knowledge, the principles of war, massive propoganda, and disinformation to repel nuclear attacks and an invasion from 2 countries. Lung hid about a 15 ship invasion force a few squares off my coast for god knows how long from my spyplane and ship and sub patrols. Now that's balls. Where else can you find that kind of talent? Not any ai that's for sure. I've survived so far, (and did some invading and nuking myself), and out of any civ game I've played so far ever, that one has been the most enjoyable.

    Then again I might just be a masochist

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    Keygen; You are now unrated in Love Conquers.

    Nuke Boy; Yes, you can opt to be "unrated" when joining as a replacment. Just let me know the names of the games you just joined where you wish to be "unrated".

    Yeti; Good Post!

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    Thumbs up

    Hey, if those Germans are still AI'ed in Monkey2 and you want some REAL opposition let me know...!

    As Yeti says, sometimes the 'Sub' games are far more interesting than the homegrowns - Can you turn the Civ around? Can you avoid being crushed like a Dog? Can you feed your population or transform your science? Etc...

    Diplomacy is a wonderful tool and far more powerful than mere military might if utilised properly - my guess is that for every post seen on the threads, many more are sent privately...

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    Hey Mobius.

    Then try to contact our Only Living Saint on Earth.

    We received an e-mail from Jon 3 weeks ago, indicating he wanted to pull out of a couple of games, among others Lung Fast. He might be willing to let you have the indian nation - if you are in need of some new challenge. Other Players are Lung, Paul, Stavros and me.

    I took over the romans (you do remember the romans, don't you ) from Shavlor many-many turns ago. And he had as usual made a very nice job.

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    Thumbs up

    Hmmm, I didn't offer my services in that game because of a potential conflict of interest…

    Of course, if all the other participants were not objectionable I could be persuaded to change my mind?

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    I don't have a problem with you taking over in Lung's Fast. But you have a lot of inside knowledge of Lung's Australian civ, so Lung might not be happy about it.

    And if you want to take the German AI in Monkey 2, go ahead. We'll see if you can last longer than BirdMan's English . Your position is about as bad is his was; I believe there are two German cities left at the moment. Would you also want to be rated? I could use the extra rating points I would get for defeating you.

    If your interest in Monkey 2 is serious, please post in the game's thread and you can play if nobody objects.

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    Quinns, I'm back. Aren't the changes we spoke about still aplied, as I see? I thought you'll apply things like that immeditaley. Just sarcasm.

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    NEW RATED GAME IN PROGRESS!

    - Official Name: Strife

    - Players/Current Rating:

    ZoboZeWarrior ------ currently not rated
    PN ............. 18.000
    jpww .......... 18.000
    Blackice....... 20.103
    Nuke Boy...... 18.950
    Cuaich ------ currently not rated

    - Current Turn# = 2

    - We'd like the game to become rated ASAP (9th turn?!)

    Superator: Keygen




    [This message has been edited by jpww (edited March 30, 2001).]

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    Strife Part I is now rated. See above.

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    Thanks quinns! I'll call you quinns "The Expeditious" from now on

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    jpww, the game is called "Strife" and Cuaich & ZoboZeWarrior are probably going to be rated too. One of them has sent me the AI level and I am waiting for the other's reply.

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    Quinns, here is the powergraph for Lungmatch 2.2, Turn 9:

    1. Solver
    2. Swissy
    3. Keygen

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    Keygen, OIC, the part number is the current thread number, right?

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    quote:

    Originally posted by Keygen on 03-30-2001 02:46 AM
    jpww, the game is called "Strife" and Cuaich & ZoboZeWarrior are probably going to be rated too. One of them has sent me the AI level and I am waiting for the other's reply.


    Keygen, just checking...I've sent you my "AI defeated" level, right?

    Just in case, the highest level I've beaten (that I can remember) is Prince...kinda pathetic, I suppose.

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    quote:

    Originally posted by jpww on 03-30-2001 12:45 PM
    Keygen, OIC, the part number is the current thread number, right?



    Yep!


    quote:

    Originally posted by Cuaich on 03-31-2001 12:49 AM
    Keygen, just checking...I've sent you my "AI defeated" level, right?

    Just in case, the highest level I've beaten (that I can remember) is Prince...kinda pathetic, I suppose.

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    [This message has been edited by Cuaich (edited March 31, 2001).]



    Nope, it's not that bad.

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    Thumbs up

    This has come up in the past and I am late in posting this, heh.

    For those of you who need screen shots of power graphs in CTP follow these instructions.


    Screen Capture Win98

    You don't need a fancy graphics program to get a screenshot of what's on your
    computer. If you are in any windows based program, just hit the print screen key on your keyboard and you have a full screenshot. Paste it into Paint or any other Windows based graphics program.

    You will have your screen shot.

    Just thought it may help..


    Blackice


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    I never knew that

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    Lung's Fast PBEM - turn 149:

    BirdMan
    Stavros
    Lung
    Jon
    Paul

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    Teamhorses turn 29:

    1. Blackice
    2. Quinns
    3. Nuke Boy
    4. Franses
    5. Darth Viper
    6. Arthur


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    Powergaph for Islands, turn 49:
    1. Frazer
    2. Kralj
    3. King Thor
    4. Quinns
    5. Solver

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    Quinns, change the name of "Strife Part I" to plain "Strife".
    And change Cuaich and ZoboZeWarrior from unrated to rated status.

    Cuaich:
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    ZoboZeWarrior:
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