I don't get the point and relevance with this message.So we're now supposed to download that file and play until hell freezes... Right?
Whoever gets HG first, wins.

I don't get the point and relevance with this message.So we're now supposed to download that file and play until hell freezes... Right?
"Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver
that didn't even make any sense you stupid ****. If you can't be intelligent then don't post. Is that so much to ask?

Sorry not being intelligent enough, and thanks for showing us how intelligent people post.
But my point was that you just simply stated that the first one to HG wins. Is this a contest or a succession game? You really don't have to be that brief. IMO.
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he was pointing out the @ss kicking he gave oedo when he got HG first
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Showing my ignorance again:
1) HG isn't so mandatory
2) Out of curiousity, who hosted?
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probably Eyes.....
could've been Oedo
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Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.

Oh well he was screwed from the start thenOriginally posted by HappySunShine
Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.![]()
We are not going to pay any more attention to you Eyes until you post a photo of yourself on the Rogues Gallery thread![]()
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Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
My greatest wish is to be half the poster MikeH is.

pipe down criminal
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so if oedo got HG he would have won?
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So eyes won... congrats.
But to claim that HG is the only factor is not proved by a single game... I've had games in duels where I've had it and won... and games where I've had it and gotten killed... HG is only one element. Good land, or excellent luck with huts are also key elements... because they can make or break a game just as much as having or not having HG
Plus, if you get beat to HG... nothing says you can't just go and take it from your opponent![]()
Keep on Civin'
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Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.
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another good reason to avoid duels !!!!
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yup...i like pyramids too Smartfart.....reproducing is key in civ..and pyramids make it a joy...and combined..lethal
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LH and pyramids are both better then HG, hg is a pretty useless early wonder. Its fun building it when playing players who don't know how to expand without it.Originally posted by SmartFart
Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.
Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
and kill them!

I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it.
Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose.
If you don't know how to use them...![]()
Keep on Civin'
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too bad we can´t test eyes´ claim anymore, which is -as I think- as daring as my challenge to him was. he told me he will never play any deity games anymore.
but so it be, one can´t force people to their luck.![]()

well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.![]()
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well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.![]()
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Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
I am talking about 1x 1x here. In 2x most wonders are useless. because you would get way further ahead creating trade routes with those cara'sOriginally posted by Ming
I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it.
Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose.
If you don't know how to use them...![]()
Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
and kill them!
HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.
I was replying to ming and his settings. On 2x 1x diety pyramids is useless, SOL is useless, bachs is useless. Now in a MP game it doesn't matter to much if you get happies or not, where as in a duel it gives a huge advantage to your production and attacking abilities.Originally posted by HappySunShine
HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.
Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG.
Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
and kill them!
"Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG."
Exactly. You have to have HG in order to win. And in order to get HG first you have to have the better science. That game you had whales and everything around you. Your capital was a whale anda pheasant. Your second and third cities had whales. My city had wheat and forest. The only whale I had was 10 squares away. Whoever has the better science gets HG first, whoever has HG first wins the game. I rest my case.

Eyes do you think that about EVERY level...or are we talking about specific settings ?
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I think he means deity games.
The way I see it HG is useful in MP 1x deity games but not crucial to victory. In duels the balance changes towards Eyes' statement, but there are other happy wonders; Mikes can come quite early, and unless the land is very mismatched one player shouldn't get both.

I think so too - you get growth in every form of government.Originally posted by SmartFart
Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
My greatest wish is to be half the poster MikeH is.

pyramids help both the pre WLT*D and the post WLT*D
but obviously are much more beneficial early...especially in those PG games![]()
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If I got the Pyramids on deity x1x1,you'll never get Mike. And even if you do (highly improbable) I'll have Bach.Originally posted by HappySunShine
HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.
Go Arsenal!!!

...and that's quite enough to kick your ass. Now...how about a game?
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