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    Why is that certain techs say that they take more turns to discover than others (I'm referring to the new Science Advisor screenshot)? Polytheism takes 15 turns, Currency take 19 turns, Construction takes 24 turns, and Writing takes 3 turns. Does this mean that some techs take longer to research than others. I think I might actually like it if it is actually that way. No, I'm not real sure what to think to tell you the truth, I don't know if I like it or if I don't like it (assuming that is what it means). Could you explain Dan?
    However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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    Hey Danny boy could you explain this please? Or if somebody else might know could you fill me in? Thanks.
    However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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    • #3
      Good job, TW. I didn't even notice that. This certainly is a hell of a revelation. It appears that the further down the tech tree you go, the more expensive techs are.

      Writing requires 1 pre-req; requires 3 turns
      Polytheism requires 2 pre-reqs; requires 15 turns
      Currency requires 3 pre-reqs; requires 19 turns
      Construction requires 5 pre-reqs; requires 24 turns
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      • #4
        off topic, sorry, looks like polytheism wont let you have elephants

        and i dont see a diplomat under writing...
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        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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        • #5
          Actually, having some techs cost more than others isn't that much of a revolution. The CTP series had that feature in it from the start.
          The Electronic Hobbit

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          • #6
            As I understand the screenshot, blue indicates techs that have already been discovered. Yellow indicates techs that can be researched. Green indicates the tech that is currently being researched. And, grey is for techs that are not available yet.
            The number of turns next to the tech indicates the number of turns it would take to research it. The number of turns in the green tech indicates the number of turns left.

            Am I right Firaxis?
            Last edited by The diplomat; August 10, 2001, 20:59.
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            • #7
              Don't you think that the numbers are the cumulation of that tech plus their pre-reqs? Also, remember that each tech requires more 'beakers' than the one before, as in Civ2.

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              • #8
                Sounds promising having idfferent speeds required to research harder to research technologies!
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                • #9
                  I bet this progressive research system is a try to balance the ancient vs. the modern age and make ancient more attractive to play and make war in. In Civ II, most player just rushed this age, expanded and researched.

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                  • #10
                    Maybee as you advance into the Fuedal age and still dont have writing it makes it easier to get? Just a thought.
                    Alex

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                    • #11
                      Diplomat I think what you stated is correct. Unless for some werid reason what Steve said is right. Alex that's a good thought but I think it's the way Diplomat pointed out. Uncle Funk what you said is probably the motivating factor behind doing this.
                      However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                      • #12
                        Supposedly you can't move forward to a new epoch until you have researched all the civ advances in the current epoch.
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                        • #13
                          Does that mean you can't research any thing from an epoch above where you are at until after you have researched everything already? Or does it simply mean that you can't officially enter the next epoch?
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                          • #14
                            You can't research anything from the next epoch until you have all the pre-reqs from the current epoch. The pre-reqs won't necessarily include every tech, but it will probably be a significant number of them.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • #15
                              Ohhh! That sounds attractive! (the whole epoch pre-req thing)... I found it funny that, in Civ II, one could research automobile w/o actually having "The Wheel."
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