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    Tabby’s Star: Weird Star Gets Weirder
    By: Monica Young | August 12, 2016
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    A new study on KIC 8462852, the star of alien megastructure fame, finds yearlong trends that effectively rule out the one working theory astronomers had to explain this strange star.


    Comet Swarm
    Tabby's star, also known as KIC 8462485, showed a strange series of dips in its lightcurve that astronomers thought they could explain with a swarm of comets breaking apart in the star's gravity. A new study rules out that idea, putting astronomers back at square one.NASA / JPL-Caltech
    Tabby’s Star, or KIC 8462852 as it’s more formally known, made headlines last year when Tabetha Boyajian, then a postdoc at Yale University, announced the discovery of this system’s strange patterns in brightness. The star’s weird dips have defied explanation and even prompted theories about extraterrestrial life.


    The story keeps getting better: as astronomers called for more data and SETI searched for alien radio signals, archival investigations for historical context stirred up controversy on the star’s longterm trends. Now, with the release of a new study last week that finds that the star has long been fading, it looks like Tabby’s star is even weirder than we knew.


    The Curious Case of KIC 8462852


    The star was one of more than 150,000 that Kepler monitored during its original four-year mission. While computer algorithms were busy picking out planets by the thousands around other stars, humans volunteering in the Planet Hunters citizen science project spotted strange dips in brightness around a singular star. Typical planetary transits dip by a few percent (or usually far less) for a few hours, but as we shared with our readers last year, this star would dim for days at a time by up to 20%. And while planets orbit their stars like clockwork, those dips showed up with surprising irregularity.


    KIC 8462852 plots
    The top panel shows four years of Kepler observations of the 12th-magnitude star KIC 8462852 in Cygnus. Several sporadic dips in its light output hint that something is partially blocking its light. The portion highlighted in yellow is shown at three different scales along the bottom. The random, irregular shape of each dip could not be caused by a transiting exoplanet.
    T. Boyajian & others / MNRAS
    No planet could explain this star’s behavior. Yet, on the surface of things, Tabby’s star seemed to be a normal, 12th-magnitude F-class star. So perhaps the star was young — either prone to pulsations, or surrounded by a dusty disk that was getting in the way of the starlight. But no, the star is moving too fast through the galaxy to be part of its youthful stellar population, and infrared observations show no sign of the dusty disk that ought to surround young stars.


    After considering and discarding this and several other ideas, the scenario that Boyajian’s team settled on for publication (though not without caveats) was a comet swarm in the midst of dissolution. After all, we’ve witnessed a comet breaking apart around Jupiter, so there’s ample reason to think that the same could happen around a star. In fact, a group of comets mostly reproduces the long-term light signatures Kepler had captured.


    Still, there was that nagging thought: why would we happen to catch this star just as an extraordinary swarm of comets was breaking apart in its gravity? As colleague Jason Wright put it in a blog post at the time, the idea appeared “contrived.”


    Meanwhile, another idea was tickling researchers’ brains and making journalists’ hearts race: maybe there was no natural explanation for this. Maybe the explanation instead involved “megastructures” put in place by extraterrestrial intelligence. Naturally, the media leaped on that explanation, but to everybody’s disappointment, a SETI search for deliberately produced radio signals came up blank.


    Dimming Over the Decades?


    AAVSO lightcurve of Tabby's star
    Amateur astronomers part of the American Association for Variable Star Observing (AAVSO) are monitoring the brightness of Tabby's star. If it dips, alerts will be sent out to larger observatories for more detailed observations.
    AAVSO
    When astronomers face a puzzle, there’s always one clear path forward: more data. Boyajian sought Kickstarter funding so that Las Cumbres Observatory Global Telescope Network (LCOGT) could continuously monitor the star — and she met her goal, raising more than $100,000. AAVSO also put out a call for follow-up observations from amateur astronomers.


    Meanwhile, some astronomers turned to historical archives to find out what the star had been up to in the past. Bradley Schaefer (Louisiana State University) sifted through the Digital Access to a Sky Century at Harvard (DASCH) archive, a century’s worth of glass plates collected at the Harvard College Observatory. He found that Tabby’s star had faded over a period of 100 years, at a rate of 0.16 magnitude per century.


    Controversy ensued: shortly after the result went public, independent scientist Michael Hippke posted a rebuttal on the arXiV preprint server, arguing that the longterm dimming could be attributed to systematic errors. After some animated discussion between the teams, Hippke revised his rebuttal and published it in the Astrophysical Journal.


    Tabby’s Fading Star


    Now, a new study has appeared on the scene: Benjamin Montet (Caltech and Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics) and Joshua Simon (Observatories of the Carnegie Institution of Washington) have investigated Kepler data to look for longterm trends. If there had been a century-long dimming of 0.16 magnitude, Kepler ought to have seen a loss of several thousandths of a magnitude during its first, 4-year mission — it was exactly the kind of precision experiment the satellite was born for.


    There’s just one problem: Kepler was designed to detect tiny planetary blips, not year-long fades. Montet and Simon went to great lengths to get Kepler to spit out the longterm trends that are normally purposefully removed from the data. What they found wasn’t exactly what Schaefer or Hippke (or Boyajian, for that matter) were expecting — Tabby’s star was fading even faster than anyone had thought.


    Kepler longterm lightcurve of KIC 8462852
    Kepler tracked the changing brightness of Tabby's star, finding a dimming of about 0.3% per year for the first three years, then a sudden drop of 2.5% per year for a period of seven months.
    B. Montet & J. Simon, arXiv
    For the first 3 years, the star faded at a rate of 0.3% per year, equivalent to 0.37 magnitudes per century and more than double what Schaefer had found in the DASCH data. Then, for almost seven months, the star suddenly began dimming even more rapidly, at a rate of 2.5% per year. The sudden decline came to a halt before Kepler’s initial mission ended, but it’s not clear if the light curve flattened out or returned to its previous dimming pattern in those remaining months.


    The results appear to support Schaefer’s assertion that the star is in longterm decline, though they can’t directly confirm the century-long trend since Kepler’s observations are limited to four years.


    The results also put the “comet swarm” scenario to rest. “It was already pretty contrived to invoke a swarm of comets to explain the data,” Boyajian says. “The Montet and Simon results put an additional tremendous strain on it!”


    So, if it’s not comets, then what?


    “Honestly, I'm all out of good ideas — all of us are,” Boyajian says. “We just need more data at this point!”
    This is the same star with the strange non-periodic brightness fluctuations. Looks like a big +1 for the Dyson Sphere under construction theory.
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  • #2
    ...or it could be a giant ringed planet.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
      ...or it could be a giant ringed planet.
      A planet ringed by giants!!!

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      Or maybe a giant space goat!
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      • #4
        u playin the foosball epw?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
          ...or it could be a giant ringed planet.
          It's not a planet. Some sort of debris field/massive asteroid field are obviously leading theories, but they don't explain all the observations at this point.
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          • #6
            My god, you guise, this is just SO INTERESTING! I can't stop thinking about this to the point that this thrade may have changed my entire life. I would be surprised if EPW had not spent less than 3 weeks planning this thrade out because of how deeply fascinating it is. The care and time he put into making this behemoth of a thrade is nothing short of astounding. It is thrades like this that is the reason I am still here on this website.

            This is AAHZ and that was my poast. Thank you.
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            • #7
              Some form of Dyson sphere/swearm getting built would somehow make sense with the observed brightness decrease.

              3 sol years (or more, as we are lacking data for the time before) shutttling of building materials into a predefined orbit (-> 0.3 % brightness decrease / year). Then in the 4th sol year, assembling of the station (maybe resulting in the unfurling of giant solar sails, resulting in the 2.5% decrease of brightness)
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              • #8
                A giant ringed planet, like this one.

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                Artist’s conception of the extrasolar ring system circling the young giant planet or brown dwarf J1407b. The rings are shown eclipsing the young sun-like star J1407, as they would have appeared in early 2007. Credit: Ron Miller

                Astronomer Eric Mamajek at the University of Rochester and his co-author from the Leiden Observatory, The Netherlands, have discovered that the ring system that they see eclipse the very young Sun-like star J1407 is of enormous proportions, much larger and heavier than the ring system of Saturn. The ring system – the first of its kind to be found outside our solar system – was discovered in 2012 by a team led by Rochester’s Eric Mamajek.

                A new analysis of the data, led by Leiden’s Matthew Kenworthy, shows that the ring system consists of over 30 rings, each of them tens of millions of kilometers in diameter. Furthermore, they found gaps in the rings, which indicate that satellites (“exomoons”) may have formed. The result has been accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal.

                “The details that we see in the light curve are incredible. The eclipse lasted for several weeks, but you see rapid changes on time scales of tens of minutes as a result of fine structures in the rings,” says Kenworthy. “The star is much too far away to observe the rings directly, but we could make a detailed model based on the rapid brightness variations in the star light passing through the ring system. If we could replace Saturn’s rings with the rings around J1407b, they would be easily visible at night and be many times larger than the full moon.”

                “This planet is much larger than Jupiter or Saturn, and its ring system is roughly 200 times larger than Saturn’s rings are today,” said co-author Mamajek, professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester. “You could think of it as kind of a super Saturn.”

                The astronomers analyzed data from the SuperWASP project – a survey that is designed to detect gas giants that move in front of their parent star. In 2012, Mamajek and colleagues at the University of Rochester reported the discovery of the young star J1407 and the unusual eclipses, and proposed that they were caused by a moon-forming disk around a young giant planet or brown dwarf.

                In a third, more recent study also led by Kenworthy, adaptive optics and Doppler spectroscopy were used to estimate the mass of the ringed object. Their conclusions based on these and previous papers on the intriguing system J1407 is that the companion is likely to be a giant planet – not yet seen – with a gigantic ring system responsible for the repeated dimming of J1407’s light.

                The light curve tells astronomers that the diameter of the ring system is nearly 120 million kilometers, more than two hundred times as large as the rings of Saturn. The ring system likely contains roughly an Earth’s worth of mass in light-obscuring dust particles.

                Mamajek puts into context how much material is contained in these disks and rings. “If you were to grind up the four large Galilean moons of Jupiter into dust and ice and spread out the material over their orbits in a ring around Jupiter, the ring would be so opaque to light that a distant observer that saw the ring pass in front of the sun would see a very deep, multi-day eclipse,” Mamajek says. “In the case of J1407, we see the rings blocking as much as 95 percent of the light of this young Sun-like star for days, so there is a lot of material there that could then form satellites.”


                Exoring model for J1407b from Matthew Kenworthy on Vimeo.



                In the data the astronomers found at least one clean gap in the ring structure, which is more clearly defined in the new model. “One obvious explanation is that a satellite formed and carved out this gap,” says Kenworthy. “The mass of the satellite could be between that of Earth and Mars. The satellite would have an orbital period of approximately two years around J1407b.”

                Astronomers expect that the rings will become thinner in the next several million years and eventually disappear as satellites form from the material in the disks.

                “The planetary science community has theorized for decades that planets like Jupiter and Saturn would have had, at an early stage, disks around them that then led to the formation of satellites,” Mamajek explains. “However, until we discovered this object in 2012, no-one had seen such a ring system. This is the first snapshot of satellite formation on million-kilometer scales around a substellar object.”

                Astronomers estimate that the ringed companion J1407b has an orbital period roughly a decade in length. The mass of J1407b has been difficult to constrain, but it is most likely in the range of about 10 to 40 Jupiter masses.

                The researchers encourage amateur astronomers to help monitor J1407, which would help detect the next eclipse of the rings, and constrain the period and mass of the ringed companion. Observations of J1407 can be reported to the American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO). In the meantime the astronomers are searching other photometric surveys looking for eclipses by yet undiscovered ring systems.

                Kenworthy adds that finding eclipses from more objects like J1407’s companion “is the only feasible way we have of observing the early conditions of satellite formation for the near future. J1407’s eclipses will allow us to study the physical and chemical properties of satellite-spawning circumplanetary disks.”
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                  A giant ringed planet, like this one.
                  This wouldn't explain the findings however, that KIC 8462852 not only shows periodical dimmings, but that also his total brightness decreases more and more. With ~0.37 mag / century

                  That would be inconsistent with "just" a planet with Megarings periodically passing in front of the star.

                  Interesting enough it would be consistent with an alien civ building a dyson sphere (or a dyson swarm) and thereby preventing more and more light of the star from getting outside of the system, making the star appear dimmer and dimmer
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                  • #10
                    The main thing is that the dimming is not really periodic. Therefore, not from anything that is in a steady orbit, but something that can accelerate/decelerate.
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • #11
                      Perhaps it is the first sign of a Prethoryn invasion.
                      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                      • #12
                        KIC 8462852 seem not to be that bright anymore
                        Blah

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                        • #13
                          Okay, how about a different kind of system? Being eclipsed by a nearby protosteller disk that still occludes its central protostar, for example. That would cover both the random dips and the increasing dimness, no LGM required.
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                          • #14
                            first of all

                            27 years and this is the first i hear?

                            second of all

                            who is measuring what in 1890 and has everyone been doing it the same way since then? nobody ****ed up with data collection or anything between then and now?

                            how is this brightness measured? how can those results compare to 1989 results? it seems like my first thought would be to that


                            OH BUT ITS ALIENHJSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sava View Post
                              first of all

                              27 years and this is the first i hear?

                              second of all

                              who is measuring what in 1890 and has everyone been doing it the same way since then? nobody ****ed up with data collection or anything between then and now?

                              how is this brightness measured? how can those results compare to 1989 results? it seems like my first thought would be to that


                              OH BUT ITS ALIENHJSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
                              They had photographic plates from the beginning of the 20ths century.
                              But actually the whole hypothesis meanwhile is 2 sided:
                              1. At the end of the last year, one astronomer used these photographic plates and detected the long term dimming of KIC 8462852. AT this time however, the other astronomers still were sceptical and some alternative hypothesis were, that the higher brightness of KIC 8462852 (on these plates) were artifacts of either the storage of the paltes, or the conditions of the instruments when the photos were taken.

                              2. Now however (which is the topic in the OP), some other astronomers have used Keplers instruments in order to get the brightness of KIC 8462852 over the past 4 years and they actually were able to confirm that KIC 8462852 really gets dimmer with every year

                              This large dimming over the years actually puts the favored (natural) explanation to rest, that everything we see is "just" the result of some huge meteorite swarms.

                              Of course it don't necessary have to be aliens that build a megastructure, but at the moment it seems like the astronomers are out of natural explanations for everything we observe about KIC 8462852
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