A Sane and Moral Choice for Prez

[Ben Kenobi]

Well then I guess no choicers are just SOL this time around. What a shame.

That's a clever insult I've never heard of before. Who writes your material? Sid Caesar?

[Elok]

You told a class full of kids that you didn't vote?

Middle schoolers. And I'm a sub, so I doubt it made much impact, if you're worried about them losing faith in democracy. I allow that I should have kept my mouth shut, but one does get tired of shoveling bull**** all the time.

EDIT: Did you forget the aspie part? IRL, when I don't have indefinite time to think over what I say, my sense of tact is deeply defective. E.g. at work many years ago some women were discussing how Cabbage Patch Dolls now come in preemie sizes. I asked if they also sold aborted Cabbage Patch Fetuses under the name "coleslaw."

For some reason, nobody laughed.

[Lorizael]

There are systems in which you can vote more than once, such that you can simultaneously ensure the greater evil isn't elected and that you voice your true preference. In our system, that's not possible except by hoping (sometimes with good cause) that your vote not to prevent the greater evil isn't required.

[Elok]

Yeah, first-past-the-post is another nail in the voting coffin for me.

[The Mad Monk]

Middle schoolers. And I'm a sub, so I doubt it made much impact, if you're worried about them losing faith in democracy. I allow that I should have kept my mouth shut, but one does get tired of shoveling bull**** all the time.

EDIT: Did you forget the aspie part? IRL, when I don't have indefinite time to think over what I say, my sense of tact is deeply defective. E.g. at work many years ago some women were discussing how Cabbage Patch Dolls now come in preemie sizes. I asked if they also sold aborted Cabbage Patch Fetuses under the name "coleslaw."

For some reason, nobody laughed.

I laughed.

[rah]

That's a clever insult I've never heard of before. Who writes your material? Sid Caesar?

I see you're mistaking a statement of fact for an insult.

[Thoth]

Middle schoolers. E.g. at work many years ago some women were discussing how Cabbage Patch Dolls now come in preemie sizes. I asked if they also sold aborted Cabbage Patch Fetuses under the name "coleslaw."

For some reason, nobody laughed.

I laughed. But I am a rather horrible person.

[Ben Kenobi]

I see you're mistaking a statement of fact for an insult.

I was referring to 'no choicers'. Pretty sure choosing to keep your child rather than killing her is a choice.

[rah]

Does that mean you are really pro choice?

[Ben Kenobi]

Does that mean you are really pro choice?

I believe that some choices are wrong and that preventing children from being killed in abortion outweighs the inconvenience of having to bear a child to term.

[rah]

Yes we're all quite familiar with your stance on this issue.
So we're back to you believing there should be no choice. So no choice is an appropriate term to use.

[Ben Kenobi]

So we're back to you believing there should be no choice. So no choice is an appropriate term to use.

Curious. If choosing to keep your child is the same as having no choice, then how is pro choice different from pro abortion?

[rah]

IT's not that hard of a concept.
I believe in the right to choose but would never choose that option unless the mother was at risk.
You also would never choose that option but believe that no one else should either.

I am pro choice and you are no choice. Seems kind of simple.

But if you actually believe that you're choosing to keep your child, then by definition, that is pro choice.

You can be pro choice and still not be pro abortion.

[Ben Kenobi]

IT's not that hard of a concept.
I believe in the right to choose but would never choose that option unless the mother was at risk.

That means that you would support the decision of the mother to carry to term, no?

You also would never choose that option but believe that no one else should either.

Presumably you don't believe that women should have the choice to kill their 1 year old. Why is that? Are you a no-choicer?

Some choices are wrong.

[rah]

Presumably you don't believe that women should have the choice to kill their 1 year old.

Not what we're talking about, so what I think about that is not important to this discussion. There are many things I don't think should be done.