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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Whoah.

    I'm guessing oil prices brought them down. Alberta's economy seems to be on a perpetual cycle of boom, bust, repeat.

    Mismanagement, arrogance, entitlement, etc.

    I'm a Tory and I'm glad they're out. They were in power far, far too long. Rotten to the core pretty much. The price of oil shouldn't have such an effect on provincial finances, but it does because these clowns refused to overhaul our tax system. Instead they slapped band-aids on what's clearly broken.
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    • #17
      Canadian overdose
      Indifference is Bliss

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      • #18
        Asher for Alberta
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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        • #19
          What's ridiculous is that the PCs DID pass a fixed election date law recently, every four years. The whole point was to prevent **** like they pulled this time - a snap election to catch opponents at inopportune times. They chose not to follow it. One of the many factors that ****ed them over.
          Prentice was a moron. A complete moron. He had the governing party, he had the ex-Rose leader in his camp - even managed to destroy her in her own PC primary. How do you lose that election? Watch and learn. Two months ago they were at 40 percent in the polls. Now they are pretty much finished as they lost their rural base.

          Christy Clark was left for dead, ran a fantastic campaign and won outright.

          1. He blamed Albertans for the problems the provincial government has ("Look in the mirror")
          2. In the debate, he got schooled by the NDP leader and responded "I know math is hard, but" as he was obviously misrepresenting their positions
          I don't see Prentice as being concerned about the NDP at all - this was to stick a dagger into the Rose to try to finish them. What he didn't understand is that Danielle Smith was keeping the Rose down rather than being beneficial - had he let her do her thing, they would still have had 40 percent and would have won the election.

          My view of the political spectrum from left to right:
          NDP - Liberal - Progressive Conservative - Wildrose

          5) New-generation Albertans. Younger Albertans aren't as staunchly conservative as their parents were. They're young, educated, and fair-minded. They're how a muslim lefty academic became beloved Mayor of Calgary (unexpectedly to the media and existing politicians). They're also how the NDP probably got in this time. My social media over the past week was absolutely lit up with voter activism, the likes of which I've not seen before in Canada. Everyone was telling everyone else to go out and vote, and vote strategically. People are motivated and educated, and fearmongering PCs don't help themselves with that demographic.
          I'd add all the BC commies you've had relocate. Lots of happiness I'm getting from my old friends glad if they couldn't get the Commies in BC - they'd do the same in AB.

          The PCs needed to be held accountable and shown that they aren't entitled to rule the province. I suspect after 4 years they'll come back in power, they are the "natural ruling party" in Alberta politics-wise. They just lost their way through entitlement. It's good they were turfed.
          Nope. The PCs are done. Rose solidified their control of the rural areas of AB - which is the conservative Grassroots. Where is the PC party to go? The capitalists will do the same thing they did in BC and pick a winner to destroy the NDP. Now that the PC party isn't a winner, they'll be abandoned.

          But the NDP is scary in many ways. $15 minimum wage (up from $10) is a massive change. No other province is above $11. And to do this at the same time of raising corporate taxes from 10% to 12%, and when oil prices have slumped, puts massive pressure on businesses that are already laying off to stay afloat.
          AB is screwed. BC in 1990 used to have the highest earnings per capita in Canada. By 1995, we were a have-not province. You'll see the same in AB. And you'll find it harder to remove the NDP if they get ahold of redistricting.

          They may even try to pass electoral 'reform', because they know this is a temporary period but with 'reform' they can make it permanent.

          The "oil royalty review" they plan is also going to cause a lot of consternation in an already cynical oilpatch that is struggling. Also combined with the corporate tax increase, could result in much more capital flight at the worst possible time.
          Oh yeah, plus you'll get a PST again to 'pay' for a 'balance budget' along with 'raised taxes'.

          I am encouraged that the NDP will finally help us manage the oil revenues properly, investing most of them rather than spending them as they come in frivolously. Albertans do need to pay more taxes to have a solid fiscal base - the resource revenues should be treated as gravy.


          Watch capital flight out of AB. They were all in AB because of the business climate. Now they will leave - to Vancouver.
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          • #20
            I'm a Tory and I'm glad they're out. They were in power far, far too long. Rotten to the core pretty much. The price of oil shouldn't have such an effect on provincial finances, but it does because these clowns refused to overhaul our tax system. Instead they slapped band-aids on what's clearly broken.


            You guys are gonna get it good and hard from a real socialist party.
            Last edited by Ben Kenobi; May 7, 2015, 18:46.
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            • #21
              Alberta Loses Its Goddamn Mind for the Fourth Time: A Guide for the Perplexed

              The longest-lived political dynasty in Canadian history has been swept away after 44 years as Albertans voted en masse for the New Democratic Party.
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              • #22
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                • #23
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                  • #24
                    Does anybody care about Alberta ?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Braindead View Post
                      Does anybody care about Alberta ?
                      No
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #26
                        I'm considering moving there in a couple of years.






                        So no.
                        Indifference is Bliss

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                        • #27
                          See? Asher is here (update on the house please - especially the garden)

                          Then Ben shows up and ruins everything
                          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                          • #28
                            Ben has been in love with Asher for over a decade.
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                            • #29
                              It's a shame Asher isn't here anymore


                              Agreed.

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