Hospitals and Bribes

[Bereta_Eder]

How many of you have paid bribes in hospitals?

[DinoDoc]

Not all of use live in corrupt third world ****holes, Zorba.

[Bereta_Eder]

You are worse than Greece, I'm mostly interested in serious countries responding

[SlowwHand]

Not so fast, DD. I assume that you're aware of recent events involving the VA. ?

[Alexander's Horse]

I was tempted to steal pilow cases, does that count?

[Bereta_Eder]

only in verifying your very poor judgement on personal hygene

[Alexander's Horse]

why I didn't take it

[Bereta_Eder]

is health care free and universal in australia?
i know you don't even give pensions to those who own a house, that's why i'm asking

[Nikolai]

Bribes? In a HOSPITAL? We're not in Zimbabwe, man.

[Bereta_Eder]

Your genuine surprise is so demoralizing

[The Mad Monk]

Our genuine surprise is because hospital bribes is not something we do.

[Bereta_Eder]

I'm sorry and I'm not saying this to vex you but the US is not a model I consider as a paradigm in health care services.
So you could be surprised but it doesn't matter much.

Norway OTOH is. It's having a universal health care system that covers the whole population through taxes. And it seems to be working ok.

[Bereta_Eder]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/heart-patient-dies-amid-claim-doctor-sought-bribe-275579.html

That's the insentive I got for posting this poll btw.
This is attrocious, a deliberate murder. That "doctor" should go to jail for the rest of his life.

However there seems to be an extrainstitutional equilibrium reached in Greece that now with the crisis it's breaking down.

I remember in 2006 a global survey put the greek medical system above that of the UK. I'd say that was a good achievement.

I dread to look where it is placed now.

Bribes are not "forced"

Everyone is entitled to free health care and he gets it.
BUT

(here's the big but)

there is very often a negotiation so the doc could get something more.
Bribes are effectively annuling free health care here and coupled with the crisis that is hitting health care and other things, things are nightmarish, if this is an example of what is going on.

[Nikolai]

I'm sorry and I'm not saying this to vex you but the US is not a model I consider as a paradigm in health care services.
So you could be surprised but it doesn't matter much.

Norway OTOH is. It's having a universal health care system that covers the whole population through taxes. And it seems to be working ok.

Yeah, it works well. Doesn't mean we don't complain, as the spoiled brats we are, but the major health discussion lately goes over whether or not a doctor should be able to reserve himself from referring a woman to abortion. A doctor can now, some people want that to end. In short, our system works very well.