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  • #16
    did you hear about the bishop of new jersey? the guy is embezzling church funds to build himself an addition to his lavish mansion. His house is getting a second elevator. I wonder if he uses Mitt Romney's elevator guy.

    There's no honor among thieves, apparently.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #17
      BORED?
      THIS IS GOOD STUFF MAN

      TOP NOTCH

      GRADE A

      PRIME

      SLICE OF AAAAAAAZZZZZZ
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sava View Post
        There's no honor among thieves, apparently.
        I always commit honorable theft and robbery bb:
        [Pets] can't be reasoned with when their instincts kick in and they remember that they're animals. Especially dogs which are genetically 100% wolves. - Al B. Sure!

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        • #19
          stealing from corporations is honorable
          but not smash and grab or anything violent

          if you can't figure out good opportunities without resorting to violence, you are an amateur and deserve to be not doing this
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sava View Post
            did you hear about the bishop of new jersey? the guy is embezzling church funds to build himself an addition to his lavish mansion. His house is getting a second elevator. I wonder if he uses Mitt Romney's elevator guy.

            There's no honor among thieves, apparently.
            Any chance of starting a Euromaidan movement against corrupt Catholic bishops?
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #21
              you've joined the super adventure club, Ben

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              • #22
                Ben Kenobi, now we're on this topic I got a serious question to you;
                I'm busy writing a book on how christians should live in the post modern world, and of course christian views on homosexuality and gay marriage has to be a part of that. I'm going to send a letter some dutch orthodox church college to get an answer to this question, but I'm also interested in your response.

                I have a female colleague, she's a lesbian, married with another woman. They have 3 children (2 given birth by one mother, 1 by the other mother).
                The children are age 3, 5 and 7. This family (mother, mother, 3 children) have been living as a family for quite some time already.

                Now my question to you is, what do you think that should happen with this gay marriage?
                Is it the christian way to split the family up into two parts, tear the brother and sisters from eachother, and force them to continue as two single-mothers? Or do you believe that the christian way is to keep them together?

                Thanks for answering.
                Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                • #23
                  Dutch Orthodox?

                  dafuq?

                  services are in old church Slavonic?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #24
                    Dutch-Russian Orthodox, I believe, Sava.

                    Btw, its a good question, Plomp.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      that makes more sense
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Robert Plomp View Post
                        Now my question to you is, what do you think that should happen with this gay marriage?
                        The Catholic teaching is that marriage is between one man and one woman. So in the view of the Catholic Church, the marriage doesn't exist.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                          The Catholic teaching is that marriage is between one man and one woman. So in the view of the Catholic Church, the marriage doesn't exist.
                          Then why pray tell is there a fight against these marriages in the secular sphere. it makes my head hurt.
                          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                          'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Robert Plomp View Post
                            Ben Kenobi, now we're on this topic I got a serious question to you;
                            I'm busy writing a book on how christians should live in the post modern world, and of course christian views on homosexuality and gay marriage has to be a part of that. I'm going to send a letter some dutch orthodox church college to get an answer to this question, but I'm also interested in your response.

                            I have a female colleague, she's a lesbian, married with another woman. They have 3 children (2 given birth by one mother, 1 by the other mother).
                            The children are age 3, 5 and 7. This family (mother, mother, 3 children) have been living as a family for quite some time already.

                            Now my question to you is, what do you think that should happen with this gay marriage?
                            Is it the christian way to split the family up into two parts, tear the brother and sisters from eachother, and force them to continue as two single-mothers? Or do you believe that the christian way is to keep them together?

                            Thanks for answering.
                            Not answering your question, but divorce rates for lesbians are considerably high.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                              Then why pray tell is there a fight against these marriages in the secular sphere. it makes my head hurt.
                              I'm guessing because they think homosexuality is evil and secular recognition of same-sex relationships will lead to more buttsex.
                              [Pets] can't be reasoned with when their instincts kick in and they remember that they're animals. Especially dogs which are genetically 100% wolves. - Al B. Sure!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Robert Plomp View Post
                                Ben Kenobi, now we're on this topic I got a serious question to you;
                                I'm busy writing a book on how christians should live in the post modern world, and of course christian views on homosexuality and gay marriage has to be a part of that. I'm going to send a letter some dutch orthodox church college to get an answer to this question, but I'm also interested in your response.

                                I have a female colleague, she's a lesbian, married with another woman. They have 3 children (2 given birth by one mother, 1 by the other mother).
                                The children are age 3, 5 and 7. This family (mother, mother, 3 children) have been living as a family for quite some time already.

                                Now my question to you is, what do you think that should happen with this gay marriage?
                                Is it the christian way to split the family up into two parts, tear the brother and sisters from eachother, and force them to continue as two single-mothers? Or do you believe that the christian way is to keep them together?

                                Thanks for answering.
                                Jesus has already given us the answer to this when he told us to render under Caesar what is Caesar's. Our secular governments have created a secular contract of marriage out of the religious sacrament of marriage. This secular contract is imbued with secular rights and obligations. The Christian way is to accept the couple as loving individuals and to leave secular questions to secular authorities.
                                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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