Food insecurity doesn't actually refer to not having food. It means "we can't say people are starving anymore so we have to come up with a new justification for useless welfare programs and NGOs." These people's jobs depend on pretending that there is still hunger in this country.
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Maybe you should learn what food insecurity actually means.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Food insecure numbers count Low and Very Low. Hunger only applies to Very Low. Anyone getting school lunches qualifies as Low (my son certainly complains about the quality and variety of foods available at school).“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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Originally posted by pchang View PostFood insecure numbers count Low and Very Low. Hunger only applies to Very Low. Anyone getting school lunches qualifies as Low (my son certainly complains about the quality and variety of foods available at school).
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by DaShi View Posthttp://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-...x#.Us3h9fRDuSp
It's like you just looked at that page for the first time.
I quoted the metric, you can accept that or move into (remain?) douche bag liar territory.Last edited by Patroklos; January 8, 2014, 23:17."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostIt's more like you ignore the metric as they themselves state it because your world view is cracking before your eyes. We are talking about the term food insecurity, not hunger. One category of food security specifically states it has nothing to do with hunger, thus you can be food insecure without hunger. You can also be food insecure and hungry, bu that is irrelevant to what we are talking about.
I quoted the metric, you can accept that or move into (remain?) douche bag liar territory.
What's truly dishonest is that you are completely ignoring that food security involves access to quality and a variety of food. Your millionaire and hohos example is either profoundly dishonest or stupid. In this case, I believe it is the latter and your inability to comprehend food security has led you to become dishonest and defensive (as seen by the quoted post). I stand by my original assessment. Your quoting of the metric and following response further demonstrates that you have much to learn and lack to will to in addition.
One thing I do agree with is that the measurement of food insecurity is imperfect. Access to food is hard to measure, so type food intake is usually a close proxy. In addition, most surveys ask additional questions about food availability and anxiety as well as general lifestyle. A millionaire may truly become food insecure due to personal desires. But a millionaire is much less likely to reach the Very Low category that you ballyhooed about. Frankly, I'm not sure you even understand your own argument. Regardless, food insecurity as a concept is worth studying because it covers an aspect of nutrition that is lost in solely measuring hunger and the opinion of denying that it even exists is naive.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostNot when when its not an opinion. Since the term is as used by the government and he provided the government definition, it is a fact.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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What is it which Dashi and his ilk and self delusion? Despite his backtracking and attempt at face saving in that last paragraph that basically admits he was full if crap and the metric is useless, it's pretty clear he is simply incapable of outright calling the spade of administration data manipulation a spade. The sad thing is that if he actually cares about the hungry he should be furious about exploitiing them politically as is the case here.Last edited by Patroklos; January 9, 2014, 08:46."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostIndeed.
Oh and those kids going out and buying big bage of chips? 30% of America's kids are now obese."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post850 Calories is quite reasonable for a lunch. Multiply x 3 meals and you get 2550 total calories. What should be happening is that kids from families without adequate income should also be getting school breakfasts of equal caloric value. Many school districts provide this service.
Oh and those kids going out and buying big bage of chips? 30% of America's kids are now obese.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostThe sad thing is that if he actually cares about the hungry he should be furious about exploitiing them politically as is the case here.
Incidentally, pointing to some tiny shiver of people who accidentally fall into a definition as if that somehow disproves the whole group exists is really, really goddamn stupid. I suppose a millionaire choosing to fast for a week means that a group classified as going hungry isn't an issue too right?
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostContrary to popular myth, healthy food is actually much cheaper than junk food. Source: just check the prices in your goddamn local supermarket. I don't care how cheap BK is, green beans are cheaper.
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