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  • #31
    It's extremely difficult to find an anti-Zimmerman screed that does anything more than attempt to tug on your heart strings ("Martin looks so innocent in his elementary school photos"), or a pro-Zimmerman screed that doesn't stink of racism ("Martin word hoodies and listened to hip hop")
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    • #32
      I think the anti-Z screeds are also fueled in large part by racial issues. The asumption seems to be automatic that Zimmerman didn't like him because he is black. The report also mentions how it is very unlikely that Zimmerman is racist based on past actions. Is that bunk?

      Which of these other things are false?

      TM had experience with MMA
      TM had a burglary tool in his locker at school
      TM had stolen property in his locker at school
      TM had a history of being agressive in word and deed
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      • #33
        I'd say that the second and third shouldn't be considered relevant - a history of theft doesn't translate to being prone to commit assault. I'd say that the first by itself shouldn't be considered relevant (lots of people including me learn martial arts without ever committing assault), but the fourth should definitely be considered relevant and that in that context the first should also be considered relevant. That said, I've never found a source that makes the fourth claim that doesn't also stink of racism, so I don't know if it's true or not.
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        • #34
          I think the possibility of criminal involvement is relevant in considering reasons for Zimmerman to be interested in a person loitering in the neighbourhood, which is something else the OP video aludes to (4 mnutes to walk 100 yards).

          Too bad the major media have not helped establish any of this as fact or fiction in the rush to join the dogpile on Zimmerman.
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          • #35
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            • #36
              Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
              I think the possibility of criminal involvement is relevant in considering reasons for Zimmerman to be interested in a person loitering in the neighbourhood, which is something else the OP video aludes to (4 mnutes to walk 100 yards).
              Zimmerman couldn't have known about the contents of the kid's locker so how is it relevant to Zimmerman's interest in him?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Felch View Post
                Is she a Laplander?
                While I've nothing against a little experimentation, anything that has her "landing" in my lap sounds a little rough for my tastes.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                  I think the anti-Z screeds are also fueled in large part by racial issues. The asumption seems to be automatic that Zimmerman didn't like him because he is black. The report also mentions how it is very unlikely that Zimmerman is racist based on past actions. Is that bunk?

                  Which of these other things are false?

                  TM had experience with MMA
                  TM had a burglary tool in his locker at school
                  TM had stolen property in his locker at school
                  TM had a history of being agressive in word and deed
                  1. don't know if TM did, but Z certainly did.
                  2. N/A
                  3. N/A
                  4. Dunno, possibly?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                    Zimmerman couldn't have known about the contents of the kid's locker so how is it relevant to Zimmerman's interest in him?

                    Combined with the loitering claim it is possible the young man was scoping out houses.

                    It certainly undermines the racial profiling narrative.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
                      My misunderstanding and my apologies to you and yours.
                      No apologies necessary, I left it ambiguous on purpose.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by molly bloom View Post
                        Dear Abby,

                        I buy watermelon drink but am almost an albino in colour. Should I beware portly Hispanic looking gentlemen ? I don't eat Skittles though I do eat African food.

                        Which U.S. states would it be a good idea to avoid ?

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                        I avoid them all. Last week I was about a 15 minute drive from the border.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                          Did they mention they way Trayvon was cake-walking and whistling at white women gave Zimmerman no choice but to kill him, for the defense of everyone?
                          well there is that...I never thought of it that way - unfortunately the jury probably did!
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                          • #43
                            If Zimmerman was lynched then why isn't he dead and hanging from a tree? This seems like just another desperate attempt by the right wing to pretend they're the victim instead of the murderers, as usual.
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                            • #44
                              So was Trayvon beating the snot out of Zimmerman or not?

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                              • #45
                                that video presents some pretty compelling evidence
                                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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