Fracking!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Hence why a good mix of power production is a good thing. You could still do the 100% nuclear, if it was hooked up, for example, to a transport grid run 100% on batteries (e.g. electric power) as those batteries could take up the surplus as they recharge.

I'm not saying it should be done that way, simply that it could be done...

Until such time as we go to a hydrogen fuel cell economy (whereby the excess energy could/would be used for hydrogen generation from water electrolysis) the idea of battery grid to take up the excess is infeasible simply from the size and number of the battery yards required for commerical energy production. (Not to mention the environmental impact of battery production and disposal of batteries after X recharge cycles) Many similar proposals already exist, turning electrical power back into Potential Energy for later use, I believe it is TVA that powers pumps to pump water uphill in slack times and then allows the hydropower to be generated upon need.

[BlackCat]

As for solar power, this is relatively inefficient in the latitudes of Germany. Germany is in effect inefficiently hogging the limited global PV production of the world, Germany is again therefore guilty of retarding the possible gains of saving on CO2 globally, if the PV cells were, say, set up in somewhere very hot and sunny instead...

Yes Greens do wield power in Germany. Either actually in government, or as a voter that will be less likely to not vote conservative now that they've classically pandered to the Green vote. Basically the conservatives choked like cowards worried that they'd be decimated in the polls if they didn't act with a kneejerk reaction to a kneejerk reaction.

Fun stuff- all this green tech is so hevaily subsidized for 20 years through the german EEG (Erneuerbare-Energien-Gesetz) that people can't pay their power bills and are cut off the grid. German efficiency at it's best

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

This. Afterall is said and done power generation comes down to bang for buck. You can argue the cost of fossil fuels does not represent externalities, but....

[BlackCat]

There is a little collection of articles about german power here (don't worry, despite the link points to a danish site and refers to der spiegel, the articles seems to be in english).

[The Mad Monk]

I can tell you all you need to know about German power.

[Hauldren Collider]

What the hell is that?

[The Mad Monk]

Thank you.

[The Mad Monk]

That's the Bagger 288. The best way to decribe it is, "a mobile strip mine".

[dannubis]

What the hell is that?

Lignite excavator.

[Hauldren Collider]

Jesus H. Christ that thing is terrifying.

[The Mad Monk]

You don't know the half of it.



The circled thing is a bulldozer that was in the way.

[MOBIUS]

Screw that, I climbed all over this bad boy in Lusatia, East Germany...

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http://www.f60.de/index_e.htm

[MOBIUS]

Until such time as we go to a hydrogen fuel cell economy (whereby the excess energy could/would be used for hydrogen generation from water electrolysis) the idea of battery grid to take up the excess is infeasible simply from the size and number of the battery yards required for commerical energy production. (Not to mention the environmental impact of battery production and disposal of batteries after X recharge cycles) Many similar proposals already exist, turning electrical power back into Potential Energy for later use, I believe it is TVA that powers pumps to pump water uphill in slack times and then allows the hydropower to be generated upon need.

Ahem...

I'm not saying it should be done that way, simply that it could be done...

[MOBIUS]

Fun stuff- all this green tech is so hevaily subsidized for 20 years through the german EEG (Erneuerbare-Energien-Gesetz) that people can't pay their power bills and are cut off the grid. German efficiency at it's best

Stupid Greens have no concept of money whatsoever...

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I'm not saying it should be done that way, simply that it could be done...

Ahem...

Except that it really couldn't.

[Sava]

Can't. Liberals.


Nuclear power, GMO, etc. Liberals are the new Luddites.

Insurance companies are full of liberals?

They don't give out cheap insurance to nuke plants because of this

Most recently extended by Dick Cheney's 2005 energy policy.

THOSE LIBRUL SCUM

moron

[Sava]

hydrogen fuel cell economy

takes more energy to make hydrogen than you get back

also, it's a great idea for everyone to be driving their own personal hindenburg

al qaeda can just blow up a parking garage and take out a few city blocks